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<VITAS> hi politas (or anyone knowing) im planing on moving SpaceDOck today or tomorrow. can you help me with setting up netcan/everything you need on your end?
<VITAS> i also need to know what changes are needed (if any) to make it work how you want it to.
<VITAS> new ips are as followed:88.99.249.174 & 2a01:4f8:10b:751::9601:9 for the website (reverse proxy) and same ipv4 & 2a01:4f8:10b:751::9601:21 for the host itself
<VITAS> the temp domain for the new setup is sd1.52k.de (i dont run netcan and email yet so i dont confuse people)
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<techman83> Hey VITAS, sure. The webhooks are the only real thing we need to worry about. There is a new domain to hit for the hook (ksp-ckan.org has gone to the ether unfortuantely) and for just need to know what host the hooks will be sent from
<techman83> I'll allow 88.99.249.174, pretty sure none of the IPv6 stuff is configured. Pains me, but only so many hours in the day
<VITAS> k
<VITAS> im at config the new server for 2 month at least
<VITAS> fulltime
<VITAS> and theres still so much to do
<VITAS> so i understand :)
<VITAS> i never dug into how spacedock and ckan communicate but isnt it simply via git(hub)?
<VITAS> im unsure where your domain should be configured
<techman83> Alright, I should be able to help out there
<techman83> I've configured the access list to allow the new host
<VITAS> ah foudn something
<VITAS> notify-urls = ["http://netkan.ksp-ckan.org/inflate"]
<techman83> On both IPv4 + IPv6
<VITAS> what should that be?
<techman83> Yep, you'll want to change that to .space
<VITAS> k
<VITAS> anything else?
<techman83> That should be it I think. It worked up until the domain croaked
<VITAS> we wills ee when i move it over
<techman83> If you want you can curl that address and it should do a thing
<VITAS> says
<VITAS> from the new spacedock hsot
<VITAS> host
<techman83> That's a good thing. Means it can reach it.
<VITAS> ok... :D
<techman83> Impromptu work conversation happened while I was trying to remember the exact post required
<VITAS> the rest shouldnt have changed
<VITAS> if it doesnt work we can fix it later.
<techman83> Yeah, I have faith :)
<VITAS> iw ant to move the site before 1.8 hits
<VITAS> some say thats by the end of this week
<techman83> curl -H "Content-Type: application/json" --data '{ "identifiers": [ "DogeCoinFlag" ] }' http://netkan.ksp-ckan.space/inflate
<VITAS> returns nothing so thats good?
<techman83> Yup
<techman83> Should return a 204 no content
<techman83> But curl won't print that
<techman83> and I see the result on the box
<VITAS> btw any of you going to the ccc camp this year?
<techman83> ccc camp?
<VITAS> chaos computer club
<VITAS> so thats a no :)
<VITAS> cool i can see my tent on wikipedia
<VITAS> :)
<techman83> Ohhh, that'd be a no. Bit too much of a treck from Perth, Australia. And I already do 2 big things
<techman83> Linux Conf AU + PAX Australia
<techman83> If I could add another event, it'd be PyCon AU
<VITAS> hmm we have plenty of ppl from all over the globe but yes its expensive
<techman83> but work doesn't pay for any conferences, so it wipes out my leave and it's all out of pocket
<VITAS> pfft in germany you get special leave for such things
<VITAS> because its educational
<techman83> Yeah. Some places here do. Mine isn't one of them, my old place did. But they were at a technological standstill and I wanted to get away from Systems Admin
<VITAS> no its a national thing. companies have to grant it
<VITAS> but they decide if they pay you any costs you might have
<VITAS> where to?
<VITAS> sysadmins are dying out from my observation
<VITAS> now they want eevrythign in the cloud and users should manage themselves
<techman83> That's pretty neat, it's rather undervalued here. The technical value I get out of Linux Conf AU is immeasurable
<VITAS> i doubt companies would do it if it wasnt law
<VITAS> sometimes they make problems no matter
<VITAS> i wouldnt work for a companie that would prevent me from going to these events
<techman83> I moved into the role that is replacing sys admins really. We call it 'DevOps Engineer' here, which is a dumb title IMO. An engineer has a lot more implications
<VITAS> i dont need special leave (but its a benefit) but dont prevent me from taking days off
<techman83> They don't prevent me from going, they just won't pay
<VITAS> hmm here your allowed leave is payed
<VITAS> u usualy get 24-27 days /year payed leave
<techman83> Same here, but when you spend 7 out of the 20 days attending a conference, doesn't leave much for anything else
<VITAS> yes
<VITAS> i guess its ok for me because its my hobby and my club
<VITAS> and im part of the organizing teams
<VITAS> so they would miss me :D
<VITAS> at least i hope
<VITAS> :/
<VITAS> yes i heared a bout devops
<VITAS> but its now spreading into normal companies (non software dev) too
<techman83> Yeah, it's a good process overall. I couldn't go back to regular SysAdmin methodologies
<VITAS> i find that problematic (for me and for the companies) because i think it cant be good to give away your crown jewles aka data
<VITAS> and let only partly qualified people decide on things
<techman83> Depends on the vendor, it's in AWS' best interest not to abuse their position of trust
<techman83> It would also cost them money to say shift your data without our permission
<VITAS> as a former software dev i always took and got my freedom
<VITAS> aws has still to obey the us goverments rules
<VITAS> and theyre (especialy now) not to predict and full of greed
<VITAS> e.g. economic espionage is a thing
<techman83> True. Horses for courses. If I worked in a field where that was something I needed to care about I'd spin up my own infrastructure
<VITAS> im all for giving devs and other people who know their way arroudn computers freedom
<techman83> Process is the same though. My current project needs to go in our own POP, because AWS is on the other side of the country
<VITAS> but im voting for private cloud if it isnt non sensitive public stuff
<VITAS> i also udnerstand that the lure of things beeing easy and cheap is high
<techman83> It's mostly AWS' automation and security separation that is really good
<techman83> IAM is super powerful
<techman83> You get super fine grained control over what thing can access what
<VITAS> yes but i dont trust amazon :D
<techman83> Eh, I'm paranoid. But my paranoia matches only the things I care about lol
<VITAS> i see it as my job to be cautious
<VITAS> i wouldnt say im paranoid becasue that would imply beeing to cautious
<techman83> Yeah, I'm not paid to be paranoid. I'm paid to build solutions that can scale, that we can sell for a profit
<techman83> *shrug* semantics
<VITAS> yes and thats why noone wants to consume his own product :D
<VITAS> but yes its work and you get paid
<techman83> Honestly the biggest risk is leaving a bucket open to the public
<techman83> with a database dump in it
<techman83> State actors performing espionage is at the far end of my concerns
<techman83> I'm more concerned that my government will force me to install a back door and arrest me if I refuse or tell anyone
<VITAS> yes thats another problem
<VITAS> ill have a bite now and then move over spacedock if i dont get any objections by then (from the forums or chat)
<techman83> Np, good luck
<techman83> I'll be around for another 40 minutes before I decide to jet off to food
<VITAS> here the ruling party wants to discuss rules for free speach on the interwebs because they got rosted by a youtube video
<VITAS> :D
<techman83> Hahaha
<techman83> Oh don't worry about that
<techman83> We had the previous AG talking about "Genuine Satire"
<VITAS> i dont shitstorm ahoy
<VITAS> SpaceDock will be moved in 30 Minutes!
<VITAS> Expect downtimes of 1-2h
<techman83> Cool. Good luck. I'll be back on tomorrow, to check things out
<VITAS> just tsarted that notify thing tell me if its working.
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