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<VITAS>
hi politas (or anyone knowing) im planing on moving SpaceDOck today or tomorrow. can you help me with setting up netcan/everything you need on your end?
<VITAS>
i also need to know what changes are needed (if any) to make it work how you want it to.
<VITAS>
new ips are as followed:88.99.249.174 & 2a01:4f8:10b:751::9601:9 for the website (reverse proxy) and same ipv4 & 2a01:4f8:10b:751::9601:21 for the host itself
<VITAS>
the temp domain for the new setup is sd1.52k.de (i dont run netcan and email yet so i dont confuse people)
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<techman83>
Hey VITAS, sure. The webhooks are the only real thing we need to worry about. There is a new domain to hit for the hook (ksp-ckan.org has gone to the ether unfortuantely) and for just need to know what host the hooks will be sent from
<techman83>
I'll allow 88.99.249.174, pretty sure none of the IPv6 stuff is configured. Pains me, but only so many hours in the day
<VITAS>
k
<VITAS>
im at config the new server for 2 month at least
<VITAS>
fulltime
<VITAS>
and theres still so much to do
<VITAS>
so i understand :)
<VITAS>
i never dug into how spacedock and ckan communicate but isnt it simply via git(hub)?
<VITAS>
im unsure where your domain should be configured
<techman83>
Alright, I should be able to help out there
<techman83>
I've configured the access list to allow the new host
<techman83>
Ohhh, that'd be a no. Bit too much of a treck from Perth, Australia. And I already do 2 big things
<techman83>
Linux Conf AU + PAX Australia
<techman83>
If I could add another event, it'd be PyCon AU
<VITAS>
hmm we have plenty of ppl from all over the globe but yes its expensive
<techman83>
but work doesn't pay for any conferences, so it wipes out my leave and it's all out of pocket
<VITAS>
pfft in germany you get special leave for such things
<VITAS>
because its educational
<techman83>
Yeah. Some places here do. Mine isn't one of them, my old place did. But they were at a technological standstill and I wanted to get away from Systems Admin
<VITAS>
no its a national thing. companies have to grant it
<VITAS>
but they decide if they pay you any costs you might have
<VITAS>
where to?
<VITAS>
sysadmins are dying out from my observation
<VITAS>
now they want eevrythign in the cloud and users should manage themselves
<techman83>
That's pretty neat, it's rather undervalued here. The technical value I get out of Linux Conf AU is immeasurable
<VITAS>
i doubt companies would do it if it wasnt law
<VITAS>
sometimes they make problems no matter
<VITAS>
i wouldnt work for a companie that would prevent me from going to these events
<techman83>
I moved into the role that is replacing sys admins really. We call it 'DevOps Engineer' here, which is a dumb title IMO. An engineer has a lot more implications
<VITAS>
i dont need special leave (but its a benefit) but dont prevent me from taking days off
<techman83>
They don't prevent me from going, they just won't pay
<VITAS>
hmm here your allowed leave is payed
<VITAS>
u usualy get 24-27 days /year payed leave
<techman83>
Same here, but when you spend 7 out of the 20 days attending a conference, doesn't leave much for anything else
<VITAS>
yes
<VITAS>
i guess its ok for me because its my hobby and my club
<VITAS>
and im part of the organizing teams
<VITAS>
so they would miss me :D
<VITAS>
at least i hope
<VITAS>
:/
<VITAS>
yes i heared a bout devops
<VITAS>
but its now spreading into normal companies (non software dev) too
<techman83>
Yeah, it's a good process overall. I couldn't go back to regular SysAdmin methodologies
<VITAS>
i find that problematic (for me and for the companies) because i think it cant be good to give away your crown jewles aka data
<VITAS>
and let only partly qualified people decide on things
<techman83>
Depends on the vendor, it's in AWS' best interest not to abuse their position of trust
<techman83>
It would also cost them money to say shift your data without our permission
<VITAS>
as a former software dev i always took and got my freedom
<VITAS>
aws has still to obey the us goverments rules
<VITAS>
and theyre (especialy now) not to predict and full of greed
<VITAS>
e.g. economic espionage is a thing
<techman83>
True. Horses for courses. If I worked in a field where that was something I needed to care about I'd spin up my own infrastructure
<VITAS>
im all for giving devs and other people who know their way arroudn computers freedom
<techman83>
Process is the same though. My current project needs to go in our own POP, because AWS is on the other side of the country
<VITAS>
but im voting for private cloud if it isnt non sensitive public stuff
<VITAS>
i also udnerstand that the lure of things beeing easy and cheap is high
<techman83>
It's mostly AWS' automation and security separation that is really good
<techman83>
IAM is super powerful
<techman83>
You get super fine grained control over what thing can access what
<VITAS>
yes but i dont trust amazon :D
<techman83>
Eh, I'm paranoid. But my paranoia matches only the things I care about lol
<VITAS>
i see it as my job to be cautious
<VITAS>
i wouldnt say im paranoid becasue that would imply beeing to cautious
<techman83>
Yeah, I'm not paid to be paranoid. I'm paid to build solutions that can scale, that we can sell for a profit
<techman83>
*shrug* semantics
<VITAS>
yes and thats why noone wants to consume his own product :D
<VITAS>
but yes its work and you get paid
<techman83>
Honestly the biggest risk is leaving a bucket open to the public
<techman83>
with a database dump in it
<techman83>
State actors performing espionage is at the far end of my concerns
<techman83>
I'm more concerned that my government will force me to install a back door and arrest me if I refuse or tell anyone