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<raptop>
!meow
<galois>
喵
<raptop>
!8 Adiabatically expand and chill?
<galois>
raptop: no
<SnoopJ>
nice
<SnoopJ>
!wpn raptop
* galois
gives raptop a lorenz 💯 constant
* raptop
moves at 0.9999499987499375
<raptop>
er, 0.9999499987499375 c
<egg|anbo|egg__>
!wpn
* galois
gives egg|anbo|egg__ an analytical sodium leek
<raptop>
Better than a sodium leak
<SnoopJ>
salt the alliums
<SnoopJ>
!wpn -add:wpn allium
<galois>
Entry already exists!
<SnoopJ>
!wpn -add:wpn nonce
<galois>
Added wpn 'nonce'
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* raptop
remains vaguely bemused at how collaboration documents have horribly clashing plot styles
<raptop>
And especially colors
<SnoopJ>
if some subset of them is created with matplotlib, perhaps a collaboration standard rc file would help? (OTOH, getting collaborators to *use* same...)
<raptop>
A great many are, but also there are people who use IDL, and I've totally given people TOPCAT plots at times
<e_14159>
raptop: Give 'em a 2003 iMac instead of their current one, and see whether they still like it*
* SnoopJ
nods
<e_14159>
*I'm evilly assuming they're using macs.
<e_14159>
SnoopJ: "How do I use your RC file with excel?"
* raptop
assumes that most of them are using macs, but a few windows. And then there are weirdos like me
<raptop>
pnewman0@Algorab:~$ uname -a
<raptop>
Linux Algorab 5.4.0-65-generic #73~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jan 19 09:02:24 UTC 2021 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
<SnoopJ>
e_14159, haven't seen much astro plotting out of excel, but I did specify "subset"
<e_14159>
Linux isaac 5.10.15-1-MANJARO #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Feb 10 10:42:47 UTC 2021 x86_64 GNU/Linux
<e_14159>
SnoopJ: Fair enough.
<e_14159>
SnoopJ: I always get the feeling I'm one of the few people spending time (too much time, in my case) optimizing plot colours for, among other things, different colour issues in people
<SnoopJ>
it varies, IME
<SnoopJ>
the charged beam software corp. I collaborated with for a bit had a nice collection of rc files and good workflow around them
<SnoopJ>
but uhhh they were also a dozen people, tops
<raptop>
e_14159: reminder: red/blue/black/gray is color-blind friendly (especially if you're careful about overall brightness)
<SnoopJ>
our web team lead is red-green color blind
<SnoopJ>
the researchers all know this
<SnoopJ>
the researchers deliberately use 'jet' anyway :(
<SnoopJ>
(they also know how bad 'jet' is, they just don't...care, I guess)
<e_14159>
raptop: Yes, but what about b/w printing? What about different colour-blindnesses (I had a coworker who combined a few of these, which made him a perfect test person). What about shading so that it becomes clearer those two lines are related? Oh, the deadline's already passed?
<e_14159>
SnoopJ: Jet... Argl.
<raptop>
SnoopJ: stabbity
<SnoopJ>
'turbo' exists for this exact reason, just use it aaarrrrggh
<raptop>
e_14159: Depends on shades chosen for b/w printing, and it actually covers every form of color-blindess that affects 1 cone
<SnoopJ>
(in use-cases where jet is typically the desired thing and not a naive default)
<raptop>
Please stab them w/ viridis and/or cubehelix
<raptop>
Or even burn them with plasma, or pour magma on them
<e_14159>
But there are so many good alternate colour schemes, and I can waste hours on choosing the most aesthetic one.
<SnoopJ>
"rainbow" maps are useful enough in our domain, but that doesn't mean you have to pick a horrendeously non-uniform one
<SnoopJ>
e_14159, fiddling with style is one of those tasks that expands to fill available space
<SnoopJ>
s/space/time/
<galois>
SnoopJ meant to say: e_14159, fiddling with style is one of those tasks that expands to fill available time
<raptop>
reminder that one can just name a plot "yourDemise" or the like
<SnoopJ>
the perceptually-uniform ones in mpl are all good