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[CKAN] HebaruSan commented on issue #2307: OK, do **not** do that. Use the Mac version on the main download page. Maxzhao's version is old and unsupported.... https://git.io/vAwRK
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[CKAN] Whovian41110 commented on issue #2307: That just redirects to the how install on mac when I open it https://git.io/vAwRi
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evening all
<Rohaq>
I just updated CKAN, and I keep getting unhandled exception errors when trying to access the settings
<Rohaq>
tried renaming the CKAN directory in KSP to start it afresh, but the error persists :\
<Rohaq>
for some reason the Cache area in the settings was displaying 'There are currently N cached files using B in total' after the error
<Rohaq>
hitting Clear cache reset that, and the error no longer appears
<Rohaq>
I'm guessing it hadn't actually created a cache yet, and so it was trying to determine how many files and their size from what would essentially be null
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<Rohaq>
bah, another NullReferenceException when downloading :\
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[CKAN] HebaruSan commented on issue #2307: OK, that means it can't find mono. Can you open a terminal and type "which mono" and let me know what it says? https://git.io/vAwuh
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[CKAN] Whovian41110 commented on issue #2307: it says this /Library/Frameworks/Mono.framework/Versions/Current/Commands/mono https://git.io/vAwzt
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[CKAN] HebaruSan commented on issue #2307: Thank you! Can you please try this test version?... https://git.io/vAwzd
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[CKAN] HebaruSan opened pull request #2313: Don't crash if download_hash isn't set (master...fix/ia-nre) https://git.io/vAwr2
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[CKAN] HebaruSan commented on issue #2311: @politas , I think you merged this into your own fork rather than KSP-CKAN's. Was that intentional? https://git.io/vAwrd
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[CKAN] adamok5002 opened issue #2314: Ckan keeps crashing https://git.io/vAwPY
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[CKAN] politas commented on issue #2311: Ok, some definite weirdness happened. This has now been merged, though I broke the GitHub PR connection in the process. https://git.io/vAwMM
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[CKAN] adamok5002 commented on issue #2314: thank you https://git.io/vAwyz
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hi
<kubi>
is it something with the servers' certificate or the debian update messed up something with CKAN?
<kubi>
2345 [1] ERROR CKAN.AutoUpdate (null) - WebException while accessing https://api.github.com/repos/KSP-CKAN/CKAN/releases/latest: System.Net.WebException: Error: SecureChannelFailure (The authentication or decryption has failed.) ---> System.IO.IOException: The authentication or decryption has failed. ---> System.IO.IOException: The authentication or decryption has failed. ---> Mono.Security.Protocol.Tls.TlsException: The authe
<kubi>
decryption has failed.
<kubi>
I suspect that there were some new TLS libraries that disabled certain encryption methodas
<politas>
Hi kubi, the latest version of CKAN requires Mono 5.0 or higher due to a change GitHub made. You'll need to get Mono from the Mono project.
<kubi>
hmm
<politas>
GitHub broke the previous version of the client.
<kubi>
I see
<kubi>
I still have mono 4.6
<politas>
Sorry about that. Debian's policies on package versions sometimes causes problems like this.
<kubi>
yes
<kubi>
just wondering if it is possible to fix with some simple certificate update
<kubi>
trying to avoid to install mono by hand
<kubi>
it is still 4.6 in unstable
<politas>
Unfortunately not. We needed to change how we were handling TLS handshakes, and the only versions of Mono that support the new TLS 1.2 are 5.0 and higher.
<kubi>
ehh
<kubi>
10 years old protocol version :)
<politas>
Mono is unfortunately always a little behind .Net, and with Debian lagging on the version support, things that work fine on .Net from 5 years ago don't work on the Debian of today.
<politas>
Mono is one package that Debian really needs to make an exception on, so that users don't get stuck with unsupported software.
<kubi>
I'll try the mono repository
<kubi>
maybe it brings version 5+
<kubi>
yep
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5.8
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<kubi>
cool
<kubi>
it works now
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[CKAN] Whovian41110 commented on issue #2307: that strait up does nothing https://git.io/vAwQB
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[CKAN] Poodmund opened issue #2315: CKAN fails to add a new instance of KSP to the managed list. https://git.io/vAwAO
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[CKAN] HebaruSan commented on issue #2315: That means it already has an instance with the same name in the list, and it gets the name from the game folder, so you could try renaming the game folder or the existing instance with the same name. https://git.io/vArTx
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[CKAN] HebaruSan commented on issue #2307: Nothing as in you double click and nothing at all happens, or nothing as in it does the same thing as before, launch a web page? https://git.io/vArkJ
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[CKAN] Whovian41110 commented on issue #2307: Nothing as in double click, the icon shows up then closes without anything appearing https://git.io/vArkO
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[CKAN] HebaruSan commented on issue #2307: Thank you! Can you please try this test version?... https://git.io/vAwzd
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[CKAN] Poodmund commented on issue #2315: Maybe so, but it worked fine in the previous version of CKAN. To get round this issue I actually re-installed CKAN 1.24.0-PRE-1, added the instance to the list then installed CKAN 1.24.0 back again and it all seemed to recognize the instance fine.... https://git.io/vArk1
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[CKAN] HebaruSan commented on issue #2315: Oh, definitely, I'm not saying it's not a bug, just suggesting a possible workaround. https://git.io/vArIZ
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[CKAN] HebaruSan opened pull request #2316: Fix GUI instance name checking (master...fix/gui-add-instance-name) https://git.io/vArIx
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[CKAN] creator1104 opened issue #2317: what is going on? https://git.io/vArtA
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[CKAN] HebaruSan closed issue #2317: what is going on? https://git.io/vArtA
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CKAN/master 26056e8 Paul Hebble: Fix GUI instance name checking
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[CKAN] politas closed issue #2315: CKAN fails to add a new instance of KSP to the managed list. https://git.io/vAwAO
<politas>
Hi Will, have you upgraded to v1.24.0?
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[CKAN] HebaruSan commented on issue #2307: OK, believe it or not that indicates progress, as it's now finding Mono correctly.... https://git.io/vArsp
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[CKAN] HebaruSan commented on issue #2307: OK, believe it or not that indicates progress, as it's now finding Mono correctly.... https://git.io/vArsp
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[CKAN] cherrydev commented on issue #2307: For me, the previous CKAN.zip did nothing when I first started it, but the second time I ran it, everything came up perfectly. https://git.io/vArn7
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[CKAN] HebaruSan commented on issue #2307: Thanks, @cherrydev. Would you mind trying the latest one as well? I think it's probably a better approach, so I'd like to confirm that it works for folks. https://git.io/vArcW
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[CKAN] cherrydev commented on issue #2307: This version doesn't launch, it just exists silently. The console shows: ```... https://git.io/vArCf
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[CKAN] cherrydev commented on issue #2307: This version doesn't launch, it just exists silently. The console shows: ... https://git.io/vArCf
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[CKAN] cherrydev commented on issue #2307: P.S. If you want me to poke at the source code with a stick, I'm a developer.... https://git.io/vArCG
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[CKAN] HebaruSan commented on issue #2307: @cherrydev , yeah that would be great if you have the time.... https://git.io/vArCE
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[CKAN] Whovian41110 commented on issue #2307: Yeah that new version doesn't work with me https://git.io/vArWM
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[CKAN] Whovian41110 commented on issue #2307: So somebody let me know once we have something. TBH this is black magic to me https://git.io/vArWj
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[CKAN] cherrydev commented on issue #2307: Try this. My comments in double hashes.... https://git.io/vArlk
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[CKAN] Whovian41110 commented on issue #2307: so how do I edit the app to add this? https://git.io/vArlL
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[CKAN] cherrydev commented on issue #2307: You can right-click and "Show Package Contents" on CKAN.app, go into `Contents/MacOS` edit the file `CKAN` with a text editor and copy and paste the contents. Or you can just wait for @HebaruSan to re-package it after they test it. https://git.io/vArlZ
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[CKAN] Whovian41110 commented on issue #2307: And this is a replacement for the whole executable? https://git.io/vArlW
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[CKAN] HebaruSan commented on issue #2307: So what's the key part of the fix? I think we already had the right path to mono in my previous ZIP since it wasn't launching a browser anymore, so I assume it's the APP_PATH logic? Why wouldn't a straight `dirname` cover that without running `pwd` in a subcommand? https://git.io/vArl4
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[CKAN] cherrydev commented on issue #2307: I THINK the key part of the fix (it was for me) is that mono was not in our path without reading it from `/etc/paths.d/mono-commands`. I don't know if the APP_PATH thing makes any difference. I changed it because I couldn't understand how the old code works, the new version seems to be a pretty standard bash idiom compared to the old one, and it doesn't require you to tack the relative path of the script from
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[CKAN] Whovian41110 commented on issue #2307: So ill just wait then https://git.io/vArlw
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[CKAN] HebaruSan commented on issue #2307: OK, believe it or not that indicates progress, as it's now finding Mono correctly.... https://git.io/vArsp
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[CKAN] cherrydev commented on issue #2307: I THINK the key part of the fix (it was for me) is that mono was actually NOT in my path without reading it from `/etc/paths.d/mono-commands`. With Mono 5 installed it never creates an executable in `/usr/bin` or `/usr/local/bin` (https://stackoverflow.com/a/32547884) . I don't know if the APP_PATH thing makes any difference. I changed it because I couldn't understand how the old code works, the new version se
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[CKAN] cherrydev commented on issue #2307: Oh, FYI, I was comparing this to your script that had your weird `APP_PATH=$(echo $0 | awk '{split($0,patharr,"/"); idx=1; while(patharr[idx+3] != "") { if (patharr[idx] != "/") {printf("%s/", patharr[idx]); idx++ }} }')` thing in it. Not the one which had a simple `MACOS_PATH="$(dirname $0)"` https://git.io/vArlp
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[CKAN] cherrydev commented on issue #2307: Oh, FYI, I was comparing this to your script that had your weird `APP_PATH=$(echo $0 | awk '{split($0,patharr,"/"); idx=1; while(patharr[idx+3] != "") { if (patharr[idx] != "/") {printf("%s/", patharr[idx]); idx++ }} }')` thing in it. Not the one which had a simple `MACOS_PATH="$(dirname $0)"`... https://git.io/vArlp
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[CKAN] HebaruSan commented on issue #2307: Thanks, the only difference I see in the two `dirname` statements is that yours would give an absolute path. I guess that might matter...? https://git.io/vAr8G
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[CKAN] HebaruSan commented on issue #2307: Thanks, the only difference I see in the two `dirname` statements is that yours would give an absolute path. I guess that might matter...?... https://git.io/vAr8G
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[CKAN] cherrydev commented on issue #2307: For whatever reason, yes, that actually seems to be the difference between it working and not working for me. https://git.io/vAr8W
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[CKAN] HebaruSan commented on issue #2307: What about the `osxmessage` thing in the ZIP's script? I was not happy with having no way to report error messages, but is there any hope of that actually working? https://git.io/vAr8S
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[CKAN] HebaruSan commented on issue #2307: OK, here's a hybrid of my previous ZIP script and @cherrydev's script above. I have added the `/etc/paths.d` block and the `"$(cd "$(dirname "$0")" && pwd)"` thing, but also kept the `osxmessage` error popups and added some environment variables that "macpack" uses for WinForms.... https://git.io/vAr4k
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[CKAN] cherrydev commented on issue #2307: I'm not 100% sure why the osxmessage isn't working when it fails. It's possible that when attempting to execute an invalid path the wrapper script itself is erroring out and therefore not getting to the osxmessage? https://git.io/vAr4D
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'ey folks - anyone else getting a crash in CKAN 1.24 trying to open settings?