UmbralRaptor changed the topic of #kspacademia to: https://gist.github.com/pdn4kd/164b9b85435d87afbec0c3a7e69d3e6d | Dogs are cats. Spiders are cat interferometers. | Космизм сегодня! | Document well, for tomorrow you may get mauled by a ネコバス. | <UmbralRaptor> egg|nomz|egg: generally if your eyes are dewing over, that's not the weather. | <ferram4> I shall beat my problems to death with an engineer. | We can haz pdf
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<raptop> Have either the salyut or mir been interacted with by a giant space cat?
<raptop> !wpn ANBOcat
* galois gives ANBOcat a yellow ONNX penguin
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<raptop> om nom plant nom nom https://arxiv.org/abs/2009.03624
<SilverFox> okay im tryna math and I think I'm retarded
<SilverFox> if you have something, like a TV or phone, measured diagonally on its screen, can you treat the a and b in a^2+b^2=c^2 equation as being the same, for sake of measuring the surface area of the square resulting in said hypotenuse?
<SilverFox> my galaxy z fold2 main display is 7.6" diagonally
<SilverFox> but like, the hypotenuse should remain proportionate to the lengths of the sides right, if you increase one side by 1 unit, you decrease the other side by 1 unit, and it should match out, no?
<raptop> no
<SilverFox> well damn that's where my math is getting fucky
<raptop> !wa 3^2+4^2
<raptop> !wa 2^2+5^2
<raptop> feh
<SilverFox> lol nice
<raptop> well, anyway, that's a counterexample
<raptop> I mean, if you're dealing with fixed aspect ratios, you can get the length of each side from the diagonal. But there's also the whole thing that those numbers are often only counting the screen, so actual phone size can vary a bit
<SilverFox> yeah I'm trying to find ppi, so I do want only the screen
<raptop> ah, fair enough
<SilverFox> (I found the number from a website now, but I wanted to see why my math was being fucky)
<raptop> huh, a published paper with TOPCAT graphs https://arxiv.org/pdf/2009.03267.pdf
<raptop> I want to say that most screens are 9:16, but there are eggceptions
<raptop> Ah, discord. Why do you handle updates by having me download and eggsecute .deb files? Do you think you're like flash or libreoffice on windows?
<SilverFox> raptop, today the aspect ratio of screens varies so much, the galaxy z fold2 main display is 1768x2208 pixels
<SilverFox> and the cover display is 816x2260 which is 25:9
<raptop> hrm
<raptop> guess I was wrong
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] lpgagnon edited a comment on issue #2641: Crash when staging/decoupling - https://git.io/JJhXS
<SilverFox> my S9+ I have right now is 2960x1440
<raptop> In terms of pixel count, that fits right between my laptops. Provided you include the external monitors
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<egg|laptop|egg> UmbralRaptop: sadly I am not at ANBO right now
<egg|laptop|egg> therefore no space cat here
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<kmath> <SuperASASSN> Faculty advising students: Keep it simple. Always. ⏎ ⏎ Faculty writing papers: Let's see how many lines I can fit in t… https://t.co/I4BBiN4B69
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<kmath> <LVesus> While doing research for my scrum master cert I found this image... I don't... know how to feel about it. https://t.co/GdcS3pCCOZ
<SnoopJeDi> 1-4 hours 😨
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<raptop> too long, or too short?
<SnoopJeDi> I get bored with sprint planning if we go over 30 minutes and begrudgingly accept that an hour is probably right
<SnoopJeDi> 4 hours of it possibly twice in a row sounds intolerable, that's an entire workday?
<SnoopJeDi> although presumably people who do two parts would make one longer than the other
<SnoopJeDi> we have planning in an hour though so I will share this weird thing with my team
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<raptop> ...if we're in a grim cyberpunk future, can we make meetings look more like hololive?
<raptop> !8 Is an AQI sensor hitting the number of a Boeing jet bad?
<galois> raptop: yes
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] pleroy opened pull request #2717: New numerical utilities for integration - https://git.io/JUWd9
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] pleroy synchronize pull request #2717: New numerical utilities for integration - https://git.io/JUWd9
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] eggrobin labeled pull request #2717: New numerical utilities for integration - https://git.io/JUWd9
* raptop pokes registration with a stick
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] Pending. Build queued… - 
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] Pending. Building… - http://casanova.westeurope.cloudapp.azure.com:8080/job/Principia/4502/
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] lpgagnon commented on issue #2716: Crash during ascent after dropping boosters - https://git.io/JUWFS
<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] Failure. Build finished. - http://casanova.westeurope.cloudapp.azure.com:8080/job/Principia/4502/
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<_whitenotifier-9244> [Principia] lpgagnon commented on issue #2716: Crash during ascent after dropping boosters - https://git.io/JUWNI
<WeylandsWings> https://arxiv.org/abs/1909.04642 time to beam them some messages?
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<raptop> !8 doomed?
<galois> raptop: yes
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<doomedRaptop> !wpn
* galois gives doomedRaptop a Weyl digitigrade flaperon
* whitequark dooms doomedRaptop
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<galois> Added wpn 'BFG'
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<whitequark> lol
<doomedRaptop> !wpn whitequark
* galois gives whitequark a constant sulfide kitten
<whitequark> !wpn -add:wpn coilgun
<galois> Entry already exists!
<whitequark> !wpn -add:wpn rifle
<galois> Entry already exists!
<whitequark> !wpn -add:wpn howitzer
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<whitequark> !wpn -add:wpn cannon
<galois> Entry already exists!
<doomedRaptop> !wpn -add:wpn mortar
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<whitequark> !wpn
* galois gives whitequark a ferromagnetic brandistock with a nightmare attachment
<whitequark> nice
<whitequark> !wpn galois
* galois gives galois a salted improper std::chrono::steady_clock
<whitequark> oh that sounds like it'd lead to severe bugs
<SnoopJeDi> !wpn -add:adj CLOSEDWONTFIX
<galois> Added adj 'CLOSEDWONTFIX'
<SnoopJeDi> always salt your clocks
<whitequark> with cobalt?
<whitequark> must be an atomic clock
<doomedRaptop> <_<
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<doomedRaptop> !wpn
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<galois> Entry already exists!
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<doomedRaptop> !wpn ANBOcat
* galois gives ANBOcat a manager
<doomedRaptop> uhm
<doomedRaptop> !wpn kotya
* galois gives kotya a shredder with a paraboloid attachment
<egg|laptop|egg> one cat has a manager, another cat has a shredder
<egg|laptop|egg> did the cats take over an office
<doomedRaptop> !wpn -add:adj office
<galois> Added adj 'office'
<whitequark> hah
<egg|laptop|egg> doomedRaptop: made a Союз-Т for the Салют-7 and a ТМ for Мир (affixed to Квант-1) https://imgur.com/a/A5Jbaaj
<doomedRaptop> yY
<egg|laptop|egg> (also that is an МС in the background)
<doomedRaptop> yay
<egg|laptop|egg> I should probably rework the colour on some Мир bits
<egg|laptop|egg> and I definitely need to build a stand because right now it has structural issues unless it is in free fall
<doomedRaptop> The MS presumably came with a time machine
<egg|laptop|egg> yeah
<egg|laptop|egg> I mean, the Салют without its ТКС next to the fully-completed Мир already involves quite a bit of time travel
<egg|laptop|egg> September 1985 is when Салют-7 acquires a ТКС that it keeps until reentry, and Мир is in a May 1996 or later configuration (Квант-1 has two solar arrays so the MCSA has been installed)
<doomedRaptop> Timeline where Salyut-7 got a reboost?
<egg|laptop|egg> probably even post June 1996 because the Рапана girder is long
<doomedRaptop> Say, by a Buran
<egg|laptop|egg> doomedRaptop: and a space cat ate its ТКС?
<doomedRaptop> yes
<egg|laptop|egg> (do not eat the old space station it is moldy)
<doomedRaptop> (bad kitty)
<egg|laptop|egg> (wait no it is Салют 6 that got abandoned because mold apparently)
<doomedRaptop> I mean, you could just add mold, because they use the same design, right?
<egg|laptop|egg> yeah
<egg|laptop|egg> well, it is a general problem that space stations get mouldy
<egg|laptop|egg> Мир reportedly stank
<whitequark> cant you just air them out or something
<doomedRaptop> Well, it was impractical to repressurize spektr
<egg|laptop|egg> hey i read all the things i cite in my MSc. thesis https://mobile.twitter.com/whitequark/status/1304547631146905601
<kmath> https://twitter.com/whitequark/status/1304547631146905601 <whitequark> i used to feel bad about having a hard time reading lots of papers quickly until i learned that real scientists don… https://t.co/wFtNSRi1vC
<egg|laptop|egg> including the proceedings of the academy of sciences of st petersburg in Latin
<whitequark> doomedRaptop: oic
<whitequark> egg|laptop|egg: i mean
<whitequark> i would hope you are not representative of an average academic
<egg|laptop|egg> are average academics not eggs
<whitequark> this sounds harsh but i'm too tired with the world today to rephrase it
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<doomedRaptop> yeah, a weirdly large number of academics are cis
<whitequark> lol
<egg|laptop|egg> tired: Российская академия наук wired: Academiae Scientiarum Imperialis Petropolitanae
<egg|laptop|egg> s/miae/mia/
<galois> egg|laptop|egg meant to say: tired: Российская академия наук wired: Academia Scientiarum Imperialis Petropolitanae
<egg|laptop|egg> s/nae/na
<galois> egg|laptop|egg meant to say: tired: Российская академия наук wired: Academia Scientiarum Imperialis Petropolitana
<egg|laptop|egg> I did have some fun digging up some old references in various languages in that MSc thesis
<egg|laptop|egg> looks like 2 19th century references (both french), 3 18th century ones (one German, one Latin, one French)
<egg|laptop|egg> whitequark: doomedRaptop: re. repressurising спектр, that was because it was damaged though; docking new modules required depressurizing the node to move the docking system around and they did that many times
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<doomedRaptop> huh
<egg|laptop|egg> but I guess this does not get rid of the mold, and it is inconvenient enough that you don’t want to do it on a daily basis just so it stinks less
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<whitequark> egg|laptop|egg: hm, how *can* you kill mold on a space station
<egg|laptop|egg> this appears to be an open problem
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<kmath> <lostpaolo> @whitequark I guess disinfectant wipes?
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<kmath> <RichFelker> @whitequark Will intense UV not do it?
<whitequark> huh
<egg|laptop|egg> whitequark: afaict the current strategy is to clean what they can, have good filtering in the life support system, and keep an eye on what grows where they cannot do much
<kmath> <NewBeamu> @whitequark Actually what am I talking about, I've literally seen mold in a frequently used vacuum chamber
<kmath> <atomicthumbs> @whitequark take out all the electronics and put it in the van allen belts for a while
<egg|laptop|egg> you are going to have to keep it there for a very long while considering radiation resistance of fungi though
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<egg|laptop|egg> https://twitter.com/mcclure111/status/1304567264965005313 (but there are rumours that салют-6 was because of the fungus, so,)
<kmath> <mcclure111> @whitequark @atroyn not because of the fungus, but just saying…
<egg|laptop|egg> you kill the mould with grants
<whitequark> lol
<egg|laptop|egg> whitequark: this suggests that design considerations can help though: airflow that leads to condensation in easy-to-reach places rather than behind consoles, easily serviceable surfaces, good filtering systems in the LSS
<egg|laptop|egg> whitequark: I mean if the crew need not survive (or can retreat to another spacecraft) maybe you could try ventilating with standard fumigators after flushing the atmosphere out?
<kmath> <XMPPwocky> @whitequark afaik it shoooould- I can't find any major incompatibilities that aren't themselves nasty, though note… https://t.co/vn94XFjwem
<whitequark> yeah that's what being suggested here
<whitequark> EtO2