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<raptop>
!8 acquire coffee?
<galois>
raptop: no
<raptop>
uhuh
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* raptop
disobeyed the bot, and now has 61 oz of adequate medium roast grounds
<raptop>
!acr -add:DESTINY+ (デスティニー プラス) Demonstration and Experiment of Space Technology for INterplanetary voYage with Phaethon fLyby and dUst Science
<galois>
Definition added!
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* raptop
wonders if there's a convenient way to search arχiv to get a list of the textbook chapters and review papers that are on it
<_whitenotifier-9244>
[Principia] pleroy opened pull request #2719: Next release is Gauss - https://git.io/JU44b
<e_14159_>
raptop: In my experience, I can only work a sustainable effective three or four hours per day, and that's if everything goes perfectly.
<e_14159_>
I can increase that for a short while (particularly on approaching deadlines), but that's basically a high-interest loan.
<raptop>
"all the work while crying"?
<_whitenotifier-9244>
[Principia] eggrobin labeled pull request #2719: Next release is Gauss - https://git.io/JU44b
<SnoopJeDi>
I think about this Peter Higgs quote a lot: "Today I wouldn't get an academic job. It's as simple as that. I don't think I would be regarded as productive enough."
<e_14159_>
raptop: That might be a sign of working too hard, actually.
<raptop>
aaaaa
<e_14159_>
I usually observe that solving something takes either two hours in the evening, or fifteen minutes in the morning.
<WeylandsWings>
SnoopJeDi: i think that is true and that they are still there because tenure, and said tenure has caused more colleges to make getting tenure damn near impossible
<e_14159_>
(Of course, keep in mind that I don't have "the answers", far from it, and I don't actually know your situation)
<SnoopJeDi>
WeylandsWings, I don't think tenure is particularly related to the crisis
<SnoopJeDi>
Academia has just fallen into the habit of trying to squeeze more blood from the stone, human lives be damned
<SnoopJeDi>
Some of that's because of funding drying up, some of it isn't.
<raptop>
there are also data collection (TESS follow-up) and observatory tour guide things, but those "don't count as real work" (in my head)
<raptop>
SnoopJeDi: that, plus AIUI there are like 2x as many physics majors as 20 years ago
<raptop>
(There are not that many more faculty positions)
<SnoopJeDi>
There was a particularly good blog post about doing more science with less money in astro, but it's lost to the sands of time, well before I started keeping regular notes of "ooh that's a good read" things
<e_14159_>
During the 3.5 years I've worked on my thesis (well, worked my job while working towards my thesis, whatever. Plus project work), I've had 15 overtime hours that I counted, plus two or three weekend things working on an impending deadline.
<e_14159_>
I feel neither unproductive nor trying too little. Instead, feel mostly relaxed and happy. (Well, the latter some of the time. PhDs are still shitty)
<_whitenotifier-9244>
[Principia] eggrobin unlabeled pull request #2689: Comment out a test - https://git.io/JUvlr
<_whitenotifier-9244>
[Principia] eggrobin labeled pull request #2689: Comment out a test - https://git.io/JUvlr
<e_14159_>
raptop: Anyway, if you're interested in talking productivity and perceived productivity, feel free to; I'll probably be a few weeks to answer, though, until my life has stabilized
<raptop>
hah
<SnoopJeDi>
speaking of stabilized, yay, I have a prescription again
<raptop>
Yeah, I should figure out how to organize my thoughts better on that
<kmath>
<A_J_Higgins> If—like me—you went into lockdown on March 13 and have stayed home ever since: Congratulations! You’ve made it to… https://t.co/JznmFoHLxu
<raptop>
yeah, march 16, so today is day 182
<e_14159_>
That sucks.
<e_14159_>
I mean, less than the alternative, but still.
<SnoopJeDi>
I guess I probably just passed 6 months as well
<SnoopJeDi>
can't recall if we started not-quite-mandatory-but-please-do-it WFH before or after the 13th
<SnoopJeDi>
I know it was after the 10th because we went to see the Sonic the Hedgehog movie because my girlfriend has terrible taste and I encourage it
<e_14159_>
How do you socially isolate?
<e_14159_>
Isolate socially? Whatever the correct form is.
<SnoopJeDi>
Both are correct but the former is more idiomatic
<SnoopJeDi>
uhh well our whole company is WFH, we only just got an office again. The only person I regularly see is my girlfriend, we've been limiting excursions etc.
<SnoopJeDi>
following the state's 14-day quarantine guidance whenever we've come into contact with someone who's traveled, which has happened once or twice.
<e_14159_>
Shops?
<SnoopJeDi>
The store I use the most has one-way traffic flows and people *mostly* follow it. It's pretty easy to avoid others in there anyway, though.
<raptop>
shopping being ~1/week (less on overage) in my case, masking, following the 1-way arrows if they exist (lots of people don't, and it looks like the local large store has given up on the arrows)
* e_14159_
nods
<e_14159_>
I actually haven't been to a shop since March, so can't tell you how well it works here.
<raptop>
Weirdly, this means entirely cooking for myself since approximately π day
<e_14159_>
I recommend pizza, if you have an oven
<raptop>
It's weird how frozen is cheaper than delivery is comparable to fresh
<e_14159_>
Self-made, I mean :-)
<raptop>
ah
<raptop>
But, this means messing with making dough
<e_14159_>
Yeah, that's also kept me from trying for long. It's far, far simpler than I thought
<e_14159_>
Anyway, heading to bed now. Night.
<raptop>
'night
* raptop
plans tacos for tonight
<egg|laptop|egg>
raptop: tacos sound sice
<egg|laptop|egg>
s/si/ni/
<galois>
egg|laptop|egg meant to say: raptop: tacos sound nice