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<SnoopJ> !how loudly
<galois> SnoopJ: 538 loudlys
<SnoopJ> mm, but only 535 of those are voting loudlys
<raptop> It's all fun and games until the election is decided by a 5 to 4 vote
<SnoopJ> I must admit I have experienced neither as yet
<SnoopJ> mostly I have experienced aaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
<raptop> I mean, you were too young to vote when that one happened (2000 presidential election)
<egg|anbo|egg_> shouldn’t it be loudlies
<SnoopJ> it should but !how was born on a VPS with all of 256 MB of RAM so NTLK wasn't at the top of my list
<SnoopJ> and spaCy I think didn't even exist yet, although I doubt any of galois's everyday features need that
<egg|anbo|egg_> not everything needs a linear algebra jackhammer, this is entirely within the realm of things you can handle with handwritten logic
<egg|anbo|egg_> cf. pluralization, etc.
<SnoopJ> yea, there's a tiny bit of it in there
<SnoopJ> this case is across the line where I care, given that there's a toolset that does it Right(tm)
<SnoopJ> or has the atoms necessary to do so I guess
<SnoopJ> hmm, I guess it wouldn't make sense there anyway since the word isn't countable. replace -ly with -lies I guess
<SnoopJ> could at least check the POS before doing that with the shiny
<egg|anbo|egg_> SnoopJ: Doing Grammar Right still doesn’t necessarily involve linear jackhammers (again consider the example of pluralization, instead CLDR maintains discrete rules for all languages)
<SnoopJ> egg|anbo|egg_, if you plop a Sopel-compatible implementation in my lap, I will put it in
<galois> title: Language Plural Rules
<galois> title: Language Plural Rules
<SnoopJ> I didn't know that CLDR had discrete rules though, neat
<galois> title: Language Plural Rules
<egg|anbo|egg_> note how for multiples of a million things are different
<SnoopJ> didn't know the Consortium used Pages either, guess I've never come across such a site
<SnoopJ> I guess because it's staging
<SnoopJ> anyway, nothing there under English looks like it would be helpful for "loudly" -> "loudlies" unless I am misreading the page, since I have an adverb and I want a plural noun
<SnoopJ> seems like that's mostly about how to treat a noun based on the amount that you have (I am thinking of lakh for...some reason? not quite the same)
<egg|anbo|egg_> SnoopJ yes this is not about this kind of grammar, it is merely an illustration of the feasibility and power of handcrafted rules
<SnoopJ> the point is granted
<SnoopJ> when I work on galois I'm usually doing it half as an excuse to do something I'm interested in doing
<egg|anbo|egg_> well, it *is* about this kind of grammar in the sense that you could ask people for !how many {one {# loudly} other {# loudlies}} but that is a bit silly :-p
<SnoopJ> as a rule I tend to get bored with fine-granularity expert systems (?) of the sort you're describing
<SnoopJ> I see the concept proved out and the rest just feels like a slog I guess?
<SnoopJ> I always come back to NLTK because it seems Neat
<SnoopJ> and it would also be a good foundation for resurrecting some of the shitpost functionality that used to be a very dumb n-gram Markov model
<egg|anbo|egg_> !choose DF|more Principia
<galois> egg|anbo|egg_: Your options: DF, more Principia. My choice: DF
<SnoopJ> papers for the paper god
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<UmbralRaptop> !choose forbears|aft bears
<galois> UmbralRaptop: Your options: forbears, aft bears. My choice: aft bears
* UmbralRaptop 🔪 degrees (the angular kind)
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<queqiao-_> ⟨w​hitequark⟩ !u 🪄
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<raptop> !u 🪄
<galois> No info for U+1fa84 (I only know about Unicode up to 12.1.0)
<raptop> (...this emoji sponsored by hitachi?)
<raptop> ETNO?
<raptop> !acr -add:ETNO Extreme Trans-Neptunian Object
<galois> Definition added!
<raptop> TNO?
<raptop> !acr -add:TNO Trans-Neptunian Object
<galois> Definition added!
<egg|anbo|egg> !wpn raptop
* galois gives raptop a sensitive seiso apocalypse
<egg|anbo|egg> !wpn whitequark
* galois gives whitequark a thrombolytic photino
<raptop> Don't worry, the apocalypse is seiso and so won't get censored
<galois> title: [2107.06348] Vertical compositional variations of liquid hydrocarbons in Titan's alkanofers
<raptop> Today in proposals for lunar science missions: https://arxiv.org/abs/2107.06451
<galois> title: [2107.06451] The Lunar Geophysical Network Landing Sites Science Rationale
* raptop forgets if I linked the Mercury lander concept here yet https://arxiv.org/abs/2107.06795
<galois> title: [2107.06795] Mercury Lander: Planetary Mission Concept Study for the 2023-2032 Decadal Survey
<raptop> well that's certainly an acronmy (astronomers naming things: https://arxiv.org/abs/2107.06373)
<raptop> !acr -add:IFMR Initial-Final Mass Relation
<galois> Definition added!
<raptop> !8 Will VASIMR ever fly?
<galois> raptop: no
<raptop> ah,
<mofh> caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat
* raptop meows at mofh?
<mofh> it is purring
<SnoopJ> RIP VASIMIR
<SnoopJ> VASIMR*
<raptop> I swear, the first operational flight of VASIMR will involve a fusion reactor for power
<raptop> Because that's how long it'll take
<SnoopJ> !or VASIMR flies first or JWST flies first
<galois> SnoopJ: VASIMR flies first
<SnoopJ> galois: a pessimist's story
<raptop> hah
<mofh> VASIMR?
<SnoopJ> wow, really
<SnoopJ> !acr -add:VASIMR Variable Specific Impulse Magnetoplasma Rocket
<galois> Definition added!
<raptop> GOTEM?
<raptop> GOT'EM?
<raptop> hmm
<raptop> astronomers naming things: "Giant Outer Transiting Exoplanet Mass (GOT 'EM) Survey"
<raptop> Also, how badly do you have to mess up to fail at being a hot Jupiter? https://arxiv.org/abs/2107.06901
<galois> title: [2107.06901] Giant Outer Transiting Exoplanet Mass (GOT 'EM) Survey. II. Discovery of a Failed Hot Jupiter on a 2.7 Year, Highly Eccentric Orbit
* egg|anbo|egg meows at whitequark
<egg|anbo|egg> !wpn -add:adj USB
<galois> Entry already exists!
<egg|anbo|egg> !wpn -add:adj universal
<galois> Entry already exists!
<egg|anbo|egg> !wpn -add:adj serial
<galois> Added adj 'serial'
<egg|anbo|egg> !wpn -add:wpn bus
<galois> Entry already exists!
<egg|anbo|egg> !wpn -add:wpn catbus
<galois> Added wpn 'catbus'
<raptop> !8 Do catbuses have weird crepescular service hours?
<galois> raptop: yes
<raptop> figures
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<galois> title: [2107.06949] Detection and Bulk Properties of the HR 8799 Planets with High Resolution Spectroscopy
<raptop> Yes, everyone's favorite directly imaged system
<raptop> I would like to know more about this religion https://twitter.com/Ashleyjgrote/status/1414984585855782913
<SnoopJ> +1
<queqiao-_> ⟨e​gg|matrix|egg⟩ !wpn whitequark
* galois gives whitequark a hydrostatic explosive psyduck with a kappa attachment
<queqiao-_> ⟨e​gg|matrix|egg⟩ I should really try to see if I can set up puppeting
<queqiao-_> ⟨e​gg|matrix|egg⟩ though I am not sure this particular software knows how to do that
<SnoopJ> is that driving an IRC client from matrix?
<raptop> !wpn
* galois gives raptop a cerium goto with a coördinate attachment
* raptop pokes telescope pointing limits with a cerium goto with a coördinate attachment
<raptop> As best I can tell, the elevation limits are: ~13.8 degrees (west/east); ~11.2 degrees (south); ~50.2 degrees (north)
* raptop caws at IRTF in confusion