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<Pinkbeast> No, but I did hit myself on the head today with something over 250 years old so I have a sore head and am not an expert on anything
<UmbralRaptor> ow
<Pinkbeast> UmbralRaptor: Eh, if you're going to be bashed on the head it's better to do it with the _Victory_ than with a random low ceiling. :-)
* Pinkbeast has been to Portsmouth, as you may infer
<Pinkbeast> Curiously, times bashed on head in submarine (even smaller): 0. Times bashed on head in Victory: 3.
<UmbralRaptor> uh
<Pinkbeast> Times bashed on head in HMS Warrior:0. I think the Victory is in a sour spot where mostly you can stand up incautiously.
<Pinkbeast> uh?
<UmbralRaptor> Just surprised at this not being a problem in a sub.
<Pinkbeast> The sub is _so tiny_ that you are alert at all times.
<Pinkbeast> The class was designed in WW2 but the war ended so they stopped building them except the ones that were laid down, so this one was finished in '47 and used in the Cold War (as such they still have chaps who were on this specific class as guides, which is fascinating)
<Pinkbeast> The Victory is in this sour spot where mostly you are fine but occasionally haha surprise deckbeam
<Pinkbeast> The Warrior is just comfortably sized what with only having to fit in a single gundeck and all. (I've never been, but I suspect the Constitution is also less awkward, carrying the artillery of a two-decker on one deck)
* UmbralRaptor should probably visit the Constitution some day. Though in the short term, there's a lot of Smithsonian museums still.
<Pinkbeast> I would like to see her, if I could; the American superfrigates were very interesting technology-wise (as such midway between the Warrior, who is up there with the Dreadnought in terms of innovation) and the Victory (who is a bog-standard three-decker with an extremely distinguished history)
<Pinkbeast> _Warrior_ and _Gloire_ may even be ahead of the Dreadnought, except they're buried in a fresh tide of innovation. If it's the 19th century arrange to be paid for building battleships, not paying for them to be built. :-)
<Pinkbeast> We went to coincide with a festival of silent film so we had Battleship Potemkin, a film about the Zeebrugge attack, and a 1918 hagiography of Nelson
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<UmbralRaptor> Anyway, since it's Halloween, have a scary game. https://mkremins.itch.io/epitaph
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