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19:34 <GregroxMun> I

19:34 <GregroxMun> I mean Hi

19:35 <UmbralRaptop> iH

19:35 <GregroxMun> so I think I have uncovered the cuase of a bug that has plagued me when playing with some weird systems with principia

19:35 <GregroxMun> Sometimes when principia is running, it is impossible to timewarp because the game thinks you're under acceleration

19:36 <GregroxMun> I think what's happening is that whenever the gravitational acceleration imparted on a craft by principia departs enough from what KSP thinks it should be with patched conics, then it assumes that it's a real acceleration and treats it as such

19:36 <GregroxMun> This is common in binary systems, or large oblate planets like Mesbin.

19:37 <GregroxMun> What's the state of the project right now?

19:37 <GregroxMun> What features, if any, are being worked on?

19:38 <GregroxMun> I ask because I am *REALLY* looking forwards to planetary orbits that make sense

19:55 <UmbralRaptop> !wpn egg|zzz|egg

20:35 <UmbralRaptop> !wpn egg|anbo|egg

21:00 <egg|anbo|egg> GregroxMun: planetary orbits that make sense (in terms of drawings in map view) are probably independent from the issue you describe

21:01 <GregroxMun> I know

21:01 <GregroxMun> I didn't mean to imply they were related issues.

21:01 <egg|anbo|egg> GregroxMun: if you have a minimally-modded save that reproduce the issue you describe (together with a list of mods) we can look into it

21:01 <GregroxMun> ok

21:01 <GregroxMun> I may do so later

21:01 <GregroxMun> too tired now

21:02 <egg|anbo|egg> GregroxMun: also right now i'm working on stage- and fuel- aware flight plans

21:02 <egg|anbo|egg> also srb-aware eventually

21:02 <egg|anbo|egg> so that you don't accidentally plan burns that require more fuel than you have

21:03 <GregroxMun> I also have a feature request that may be a long shot

21:03 <GregroxMun> what if you could make it so that orbits are played about the same way they are in-game, as an option

21:03 <GregroxMun> like

21:03 <GregroxMun> in-game as in stock physics I mean

21:03 <GregroxMun> like

21:05 <GregroxMun> in stock, you have a blue orbit line that is cut off when you get to an SOI transition, then you see the orange orbit line representing the path of your trajectory around the secondary body in the reference frame of the primary body, then a purple line representing the path of your trajectory in the primary-reference frame again.

21:05 <GregroxMun> what if

21:05 <GregroxMun> in principia

21:05 <GregroxMun> you could also have that

21:06 <GregroxMun> more importantly, the feature where if you focus on the secondary body, the flyby trajectory is redrawn in the reference frame of the secondary body, but only the cut-out bit, while the transfer orbit is still seen as a primary-centric orbit

21:06 <GregroxMun> I don't know if that made sense

21:16 <awang_> GregroxMun: So basically you want the ability to render different parts of the trajectory using different reference frames?

21:16 <GregroxMun> yeah

21:17 <awang_> I don't know the answer to that, unfortunately

21:17 <awang_> No idea what the rendering code looks like internally