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<mofh>
egg|zzz|egg: but why would you want cotg of that? :p
<egg|zzz|egg>
mofh: retrograde equinoctial elements
<egg|zzz|egg>
the egguinoctial elements behave well under integration, and are thus well suited to filtration into mean elements
<egg|zzz|egg>
mofh: but they still have a singularity at i = π, which you eliminate by replacing tg i/2 by cotg i/2
* UmbralRaptor
throws SGDQ at SilverFox
<SilverFox>
havent seen that in a while actually
<egg|zzz|egg>
mofh: should i do orbit analysis or play soviet republic or sleep
<UmbralRaptor>
egg|zzz|egg: you should command your workers to build computers to do the orbit analysis in your sleep
<galois>
[WIKIPEDIA] Puits artésien | "Un puits artésien est une exsurgence formant un puits où l'eau jaillit spontanément ou par forage. Ce phénomène a été mis en évidence pour la première fois par les moines de l'abbaye de Lillers, en Artois en 1126, d'où son nom...."
<mofh>
I'm very amused how that one's actually true
<mofh>
(or almost true, I don't think Artois has AOP'd the term (can you even do that?))
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[Principia] pleroy opened pull request #2229: Remove 1.3.1 and add 1.7.2 - https://git.io/fjoSw
<egg|zzz|egg>
mofh: it's not an argicultural/food product
<egg|zzz|egg>
so unless you eat artesian wells that's not applicable
<whitequark>
i'll vore all of your wells
<egg|zzz|egg>
whitequark: mofh: if you do vore the wells then I guess you can make it an AOP or an IGP (depending on whether the stone making up the edge of the well has to be from Artois as well)
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[Principia] pleroy pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/fjoSy
<egg|zzz|egg>
mofh: so e.g. Champagne is an AOP, you can't take grapes from california, ship them to Champagne, process them by the Champagne process and call the result Champagne;
<mofh>
egg|zzz|egg: I mean that makes sense, you want the grapes to be shitty
<mofh>
but precisely shitty, and not any shittier,
<egg|zzz|egg>
mofh: Brillat-Savarin is an IGP, you can make it from Polish milk as long as you follow the requirements (it can't be frozen, must be obtained within 2 days of milking and used within 2 days of reception, must have the right acidity etc.) and make it within the geographic area for Brillat-Savarin
<egg|zzz|egg>
mofh: does "Jeżeli dokonuje się dzielenia na kawałki, odbywa się ono z uwzględnieniem kształtu sera, tzn. ser kroi się wzdłuż płaszczyzny lub płaszczyzn przechodzących przez oś walca." sound silly
<egg|zzz|egg>
mofh: the English version has "When cut into pieces, this is done respecting the cheese" which is fun
<egg|zzz|egg>
mofh: "Camembert de Normandie" is an AOP, so you can't make it from Polish milk
<egg|zzz|egg>
mofh: "Camembert" is not: in particular, "Camembert fabriqué en Normandie" merely means that cheesemaking happened in Normandy, not that the milk comes from Normandy
<egg|zzz|egg>
mofh: "Pont-l'évêque" is an AOP
<mofh>
egg|zzz|egg: "when cutting it into pieces, this is done noting the shape of the cheese, this cheese is cut wrt..."
<mofh>
I guess "this is done respecting the shape of the cheese" would be okay too
<mofh>
but it's not quite as silly as the FR
<egg|zzz|egg>
mofh: it's more that "respect the cheese" (in en or fr) sounds fun
<mofh>
I mean it sounds silly :P
<mofh>
(but also needs to be done, obv)
<egg|zzz|egg>
mofh: so "Camembert" itself is oddly unprotected
<egg|zzz|egg>
mofh: hence the important skill of distinguishing "Camembert de Normandie" from "Camembert fabriqué en Normandie"
<mofh>
I mean I've lived in the USA, this is basically the same as "cheese" != "cheese product"
<egg|zzz|egg>
mofh: i mean both of those are cheeses
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[Principia] eggrobin pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/fjo9U
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[Principia] eggrobin 911c000 - A mechanism to override version checking
<mofh>
egg|zzz|egg: point being subtle differences in phrasing reuslting in very different products
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[Principia] eggrobin 21e93eb - Merge pull request #2227 from eggrobin/override-version-check A mechanism to override version checking
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[Principia] eggrobin closed pull request #2227: A mechanism to override version checking - https://git.io/fjoyV
<mofh>
tho I guess yeah, I'd still eat "Camembert fabriqué en Normandie", less so the typical US "cheese product"
<mofh>
it *is* amusing having the gaseous form of cheese around to troll people with, tho.
<egg|zzz|egg>
mofh: i mean in general they still try to look like a camembert, even if they process estonian milk in normandy
<mofh>
(okay okay it's more of a weird liquid slurry emulsion).
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[Principia] eggrobin labeled pull request #2228: Take the thrust limiter into account. - https://git.io/fjoyD
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[Principia] eggrobin closed pull request #2225: Fix the signs of ω and ν for retrograde orbits - https://git.io/fjoPx
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[Principia] eggrobin pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±4] https://git.io/fjo9T
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[Principia] eggrobin a7473c8 - fix the signs of ω and ν for retrograde orbits
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[Principia] eggrobin a57dc0d - Merge pull request #2225 from eggrobin/sign-ω Fix the signs of ω and ν for retrograde orbits
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[Principia] pleroy closed issue #2128: Take the engine thrust limiter into account in manœuvres - https://git.io/fjths
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[Principia] pleroy closed pull request #2228: Take the thrust limiter into account. - https://git.io/fjoyD
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[Principia] pleroy pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/fjo9I
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[Principia] pleroy 1bfe597 - Take the thrust limiter into account.
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[Principia] pleroy e1c9bad - Merge pull request #2228 from pleroy/2143 Take the thrust limiter into account.
<galois>
[WIKIPEDIA] Geographical indications and traditional specialities in the European Union#Description of the regimes | "Three European Union schemes of geographical indications and traditional specialties, known as protected designation of origin (PDO), protected geographical indication (PGI), and traditional specialities guaranteed (TSG), promote and protect names of quality agricultural products and foodstuffs. Products..."
<galois>
[WIKIPEDIA] Oznaczenia pochodzenia geograficznego produktów rolnych w Unii Europejskiej#Polskie produkty objęte ochroną Unii Europejskiej | "Oznaczenia pochodzenia geograficznego produktów rolnych w Unii Europejskiej – system ochrony regionalnych produktów rolnych w Unii Europejskiej, mający na celu ochronę nazw tych produktów i zapewnienie ich autentyczności. Dotyczy wyrobów wytwarzanych na określonym obszarze w sposób trady