UmbralRaptor changed the topic of #kspacademia to: https://gist.github.com/pdn4kd/164b9b85435d87afbec0c3a7e69d3e6d | Dogs are cats. Spiders are cat interferometers. | Космизм сегодня! | Document well, for tomorrow you may get mauled by a ネコバス. | <UmbralRaptor> egg|nomz|egg: generally if your eyes are dewing over, that's not the weather. | <ferram4> I shall beat my problems to death with an engineer. | We can haz pdf
<WeylandsWings>
oh no the shadowy smaller speedy lizards are multiplying
<egg>
??
<SnoopJeDi>
oh interesting, 四 is the same in both languages for just-counting
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<WeylandsWings>
egg: Umbral's connectivity issues
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<SnoopJeDi>
oh huh, same ideograms up through 10? I guess that makes sense because hanzi
<SnoopJeDi>
no particularly good reason to fork there
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<SnoopJeDi>
egg, speaking of numerical glyphs, I learned 十人十色 this week on a lark, and it's a distressing reminder of how complex kanji readings will get if I keep learning :|
<SilverFoxy>
I prefer the simplistic characters of the korean alphabet
<SilverFoxy>
add a few to cover the sounds from english and remove the double-chars like 에 and 애 and you can get a pretty good written set going
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* UmbralRaptor
chirps at wifi
<SnoopJeDi>
Composable characters are neat
<UmbralRaptor>
decomposable characters ♻
<egg>
WeylandsWings: for the Союз my design has some notable differences from the tech_niek one (better proportions at the expense of weird surface texture)
<SnoopJeDi>
UmbralRaptor, I don't know the right linguistics words >_<
<UmbralRaptor>
SnoopJeDi: please don't read too much into my pun
<SnoopJeDi>
Joke's on you, I read too much into everything! \o/
<WeylandsWings>
egg: there are 2 Союз on the repo by tech_niek, which one are you doing
<WeylandsWings>
also did you solve the orange problem
<egg>
the orange problem?
<egg>
the fact that they have overly long orange bits? yeah, at the expense of surface texture
<egg>
missing engines and some parts near the lower attachment points
<WeylandsWings>
The upper attach points seem a bit too bulky and it bothers me that the LES fairing doesn't match the upper stage diameter
<egg>
but it doesn't
<egg>
things widen at that level
<egg>
and yeah, the claws are a bit bulky, but I don't think there is much room for improvement there (this is straight from tech_niek's design)
<egg>
the bits that I changed are the orange parts and some consequences of that
<egg>
also I made a proper open interstage
<egg>
WeylandsWings: it's also missing four corner round white tiles between the LES fairing and the upper stage, so there's a gap that should go away
<egg>
the colouring tries to match that of a Союз-ФГ, the -2.1а would have more white (it has some bits outside the frosted zones that are painted white)
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<egg>
!wpn WeylandsWings, UmbralRaptor, et al.
* galois
gives WeylandsWings, UmbralRaptor, et al. a three-per-em divergent endnote with an answer attachment
<egg>
!wpn whitequark and her cats
* galois
gives whitequark and her cats a diamagnetic 🍑 loon
<UmbralRaptor>
!wpn egg
* galois
gives egg a moon-landing whiteboard
<egg>
!acr -add:COSYVE Coque du SYstème de VEntilation
<galois>
Definition added!
<egg>
cc mofh, acronyms,
<egg>
!acr -add: DIAS DIspositif ASsouplissant
<galois>
Acronym already defined! Try !acr -redef:WTF When Taylor Fails
<egg>
DIAS?
<egg>
!acr -add:DIAS DIspositif ASsouplissant
<galois>
Definition added!
<egg>
hmm
<egg>
!acr
<galois>
Invalid command. Valid forms: !acr -add:LMAO Lagrange Made Awesome Orbits, !acr -redef:ROFL Rare Occultations for Life, !acr -del:IEEE
<egg>
?
<egg>
hm
<egg>
there seems to be an empty acronym but we can't know what it is
<UmbralRaptor>
!wpn SnoopJeDi
* galois
gives SnoopJeDi a chlorous selenium clutter
<SnoopJeDi>
!wpn UmbralRaptor
* galois
gives UmbralRaptor an alternating bromine paradigm
<SnoopJeDi>
big on the halogens today aren't we, galois?
<UmbralRaptor>
!wpn -add:wpn caucus
<galois>
Added wpn 'caucus'
<UmbralRaptor>
SnoopJeDi: since you have access to galois's database, presumably an empty acronym is easily greppable?
<mofh>
egg: those are pretty excellently NMR-grade
<egg>
mofh: but yeah, ventilation sheaths that fall apart on liftoff are apparently still a thing on Ariane 5, and have been around since Diamant A
<egg>
they were on the earlier Arianes on the L33
<egg>
UmbralRaptor: theres actually zero difference between transits, occultations & eclipses. you imbecile. you fucking moron
<egg>
UmbralRaptor: why aren't they called type n egglipses
<mofh>
egg: huh, did not realize that. neat.
<egg>
mofh: they are very ridiculous on Diamant A, because they wrap the whole first stage
<egg>
so the rocket lifts off amid a cloud of debris
<egg>
WAI wontfix
<UmbralRaptor>
egg: because they're phenomena known since we gave names to everything, not just numbers, I think
<egg>
UmbralRaptor: even the occultations?
<UmbralRaptor>
egg: I think it's called an occultation when the moon passes in front of any star that isn't Sol?
<egg>
right
<egg>
that's probably noticeable,
* UmbralRaptor
isn't sure when the first planetary occultation was observed
<UmbralRaptor>
The Diamant A sounds like it has Delta IV level silliness on liftoff
<SnoopJeDi>
UmbralRaptor, can you explain what you mean? Are you talking about cases where someone says FOO? and it's not a known acronym?
<UmbralRaptor>
SnoopJeDi: where egg tried to add an acronym with a leading space, and got that it already exists
<UmbralRaptor>
(see scrollback)
<SnoopJeDi>
oh, hm, it does a naive str.partition() and doesn't check if the thing on the other side of the colon is empty.
<SnoopJeDi>
I can at least make it barf on that edge
<SnoopJeDi>
!acr -list
<galois>
Upload failed, sorry :(, exception was: 400 Client Error: Bad Request for url: http://ix.io/
<SnoopJeDi>
aw, I could've sworn that worked before.
<SnoopJeDi>
!acr -add: OOPS test?
<galois>
Acronym must be nonempty
<SnoopJeDi>
!acr -add:OOPS test?
<galois>
Definition added!
<SnoopJeDi>
!acr -del:OOPS
<galois>
Definition deleted!
<UmbralRaptor>
yay
<SnoopJeDi>
it probably shouldn't be doing that kind of parsing anyway, but sopel makes it a chore to define a command with structure
<SnoopJeDi>
maybe I could do @commands("acr ([a-zA-Z]+):(\w+)\s+(.*)") though and examine the groups, if I wanted to rewrite it
<SnoopJeDi>
I wonder if it'd make sense to just have different regexes for the subcommands though.
<egg>
!wpn whitequark
* galois
gives whitequark a caustic widget
<egg>
!wpn cats
* galois
gives cats a strange doom with a p-value attachment
<_whitenotifier-d13c>
[Principia] tinygrox forked the repository - https://git.io/Jvnqs
<UmbralRaptor>
!8 will silver line phase 2 open before jwst launches
<galois>
UmbralRaptor: yes
* UmbralRaptor
forgets if mofh has already a seen sci-hub.tw/https://www.nature.com/articles/s41550-019-0929-2
<galois>
title: Voyager 2 plasma observations of the heliopause and interstellar medium | Nature Astronomy
<SnoopJeDi>
UmbralRaptor I discovered that the local silver line switches to electric away from the airport!
<SnoopJeDi>
They do a little PA announcement along the lines of "don't freak out at Stop X, we're just switching to the electric"
<UmbralRaptor>
Yay, I think
* UmbralRaptor
will also get stabby if the last train is before the last flight arrives
<SnoopJeDi>
UmbralRaptor, conference travel?
<UmbralRaptor>
at the moment, no
<UmbralRaptor>
had some close calls in the past, though
<UmbralRaptor>
Also, bus service *does* end before rail, which can lead to some long walks
<SnoopJeDi>
urgh
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<egg>
UmbralRaptop: btw re EM/QM, let's get started on working on it soon
<egg>
UmbralRaptop: take an EM eggsam, and eggsplain what you would do to solve the questions; don't bother actually doing the calculations, that's going to be a waste of time and effort, we should figure out first if the issue is in the physical understanding or the algebraic manipulation/calculus; I think it's the former
<UmbralRaptop>
right
<SnoopJeDi>
Very good advice
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<mofh>
going to second egg's advice here.
<mofh>
well, third.
<UmbralRaptop>
0-indexing?
<SnoopJeDi>
[screaming in Lua]
<WeylandsWings>
egg: are you going to help Umbral understand EM/QM?
<egg>
WeylandsWings: hopefully
<egg>
or at least pass the bloody exams (though that generally entails understanding a bit)
<WeylandsWings>
ideally it includes understanding a bit
<UmbralRaptop>
Getting blood on the exams in not recommended
<WeylandsWings>
UmbralRaptop: i mean it might make the graders take pity on you?