00:15 <Iskierka> egg: can I ask if the translation in https://i.imgur.com/RA9hLeZ.png appears correct (particularly if the french clears up a potential oxford comma issue around "or" in the first sentence)

00:19 <egg> what is the oxford comma issue there

00:23 <egg> Iskierka: the relevant fragment in french is such as (willingly dragging/leading/driving/pulling a vehicle outside the edge of the track/runway) or (engage in any other anomalous change in direction)

00:23 <egg> s/engage/engaging/

00:24 <Iskierka> some people were trying to argue around the "or" applying either to such as or comparing to the first component

00:24 <Iskierka> I don't think it would change the meaning much but they were trying to confuse the situation with it

00:25 <egg> grammar means the parenthesizing is as i said

00:25 <Iskierka> so with the word you translate as willingly, would you say that means it does not have to be deliberate in terms of actively wanting to push a car off track, but just in terms of being in control of an action that causes that?

00:25 <egg> because verbs

00:26 <egg> i would say you have to want to push it off the track

00:28 <egg> race drivers are interestingly pilots and they say "vehicles" in the french document so i initiallly thought this was about planes

00:28 <Iskierka> while it's not here "pilots" is often used in English also at this level

00:28 <egg> also the word for track is the same as the word for runway here

00:29 <egg> do not willingly push other aircraft off the runway

00:30 <egg> otherwise you may be reported to the sports commissar

00:30 <Iskierka> I imagine that the aviation boards would agree with this statement

00:38 <Iskierka> thanks, reason for asking is a *very* strange decision in F1 today that decided the race