02:26 <Iskierka> UmbralRaptop, there's a button in the infolinks in the menu that will actually unlock them immediately (though not allow use in campaign)

02:27 <Iskierka> and also allows you to design "black box" modules if you just want to act out starwars without thinking about the technical design

02:28 <Iskierka> (this is what I did after getting frustrated at the penultimate mission before unlocking ship designer. Then I gave up on the ultimate mission because it's a translunar transfer in the uranus system, and I ran into all those problems above.)

02:28 <Iskierka> "I know exactly what I need to do *and how* but I don't have the tools to do it."

02:31 <Iskierka> the nuke designer is fun to try make cheap & efficient stuff in. You can do a lot smaller, lighter, and cheaper than the default ones even with default materials

02:33 <Iskierka> admittedly I'm not *entirely* convinced it models neutron reflectivity when it lets me use diamond or graphite as the reflector for much cheaper & lighter than the tungsten default

13:57 <Iskierka> beryllium copper is also highly effective but more expensive than what I was using

13:57 <Iskierka> pure beryllium doesn't quite have enough strength to hold the fusile core my design uses

13:59 <Iskierka> although this brings up the point of my designs being dubious, because my best actually exceeds 8 Mt/t

14:03 <UmbralRaptop> I assume that you could do that with a boosted fission design, but it would need lots of plutonium?

14:19 <UmbralRaptop> … can you do shaped charges?

14:21 <Iskierka> Not 8 Mt

14:21 <Iskierka> 8 Mt per tonne

14:21 <Iskierka> and unfortunately no

14:24 <UmbralRaptop> !!!!

14:26 <Iskierka> yeah. and I'm building nukes cheap

14:27 <Iskierka> I've tested in quick battles and by just launching cheap swarms I can annihilate fleets

14:28 <Iskierka> the vanilla ships don't have a counter for 50 high velocity nukes (because lightweight warheads can get much more dV)

14:31 <UmbralRaptop> What counts as high velocity here, 3-5 km/s?

14:32 <Iskierka> around that range. But for compute power limitations CDE does things like severely limit "usable range" of turrets and lasers, else you'll spend hours firing millions of shots with most missing from thousands of km away

14:32 <Iskierka> "long range" is normally like 40 km

14:33 <Iskierka> so they have maybe 15 seconds of being even allowed to attempt to shoot the nukes, and usually miss at the longest range

14:35 <UmbralRaptop> whelp

14:37 <Iskierka> yep

14:38 <Iskierka> 10 corvettes that are equipped with good anti-missile weapons didn't stand a chance against my one ship launching 50 at a time

14:39 <Iskierka> and honestly most of my nukes missed because I didn't increase the activation range to reflect the yield increase

18:18 <Pinkbeast> "for compute limitations"> now I see how they got there, but this is "simulate everything" falling afoul of some things not being practical to simulate, so we can unleash huge spreads of warheads from too far away.