egg changed the topic of #principia to: Logs: https://esper.irclog.whitequark.org/principia | <scott_manley> anyone that doubts the wisdom of retrograde bop needs to get the hell out | https://xkcd.com/323/ | <egg> calculating the influence of lamont on Pluto is a bit silly…
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⟨kwat⟩ ⟪jfinizolas⟫ any tips on precise landings with […] ⮪ trajectories works with principia planner, that should help.
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⟨kwat⟩ +mod
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⟨butcher6994⟩ ⟪raptop⟫ kitty! (Russian blue?) ⮪ Don't think he's a pure bred, but could be Russian blue or British blue.
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⟨icey314159⟩ There is still no way to use ion thrusters with principia in ro, right?
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⟨zeusbeer⟩ that destroys the entire point of ion engines
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⟨zeusbeer⟩ low thrust propulsion has incredible ISP but also incredible gravity losses (typically resulting in 2 to 3 times more required deltaV)
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⟨zeusbeer⟩ It would be better if they made persistent thrust actually work and then we can use principia to plan these incredible spiralling low thrust trajectories
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⟨Al₂Me₆⟩ ⟪zeusbeer⟫ It would be better if they made […] ⮪ Problem is tho, persistent thrust is impossible without support in Principia, and that of course is a Very Deep .
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⟨Quadrupole🇵🇸🇸🇾🇨🇺⟩ As long as the scaled twr still means you need a few orbits before escape, it won't be a huge deviation from reality imo.
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⟨Quadrupole🇵🇸🇸🇾🇨🇺⟩ +(instead of hundreds if not thousands)
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⟨Damien⟩ ⟪Al₂Me₆⟫ Problem is tho, persistent thrust is […] ⮪ Principia rule 69420 says: If a feature is mentioned in #principia, it will be created and included in the next release
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⟨clayel⟩ ⟪kwat⟫ trajectories mod works with principia […] ⮪ i thought trajectories was forbidden to the dark realms with principia?
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⟨kwat⟩ ⟪clayel⟫ i thought trajectories was forbidden to […] ⮪ most of the time yes, but when planning entry burns it has worked good enough for me
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⟨kwat⟩ this on earth tho
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⟨Kirk (He/Him)⟩ ⟪Damien⟫ Principia rule 69420 says: If a feature […] ⮪ Egg has explicitly stated no persistent thrust
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⟨egg⟩ ⟪Kirk (He/Him)⟫ Egg has explicitly stated no persistent […] ⮪ Well, I have most recently stated it is not happening in the next couple of years in December 2021. Then again I used to think much the same of optimization algorithms, and look at what sichelgaita wrote for equipotentials; it is hard to make predictions, especially about the future.
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⟨lpg4999⟩ it's only correct predictions that are hard
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⟨test_account9540⟩ I imagine that making the engine actually spend fuel while the craft is on rails is harder
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⟨egg⟩ I suppose Kerbalism could be used for that.
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⟨test_account9540⟩ hmm, kerbalism is notorius for breaking at high warp
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⟨test_account9540⟩ * notoroius
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⟨test_account9540⟩ * notorious
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⟨Kirk (He/Him)⟩ ⟪zeusbeer⟫ This seems dubious ⮪ Then don't use the setting
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⟨egg⟩ Its solar panel logic does; I’m not aware of issue with resource consumption _per se_
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⟨egg⟩ * se_?
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⟨test_account9540⟩ probably not
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⟨Kirk (He/Him)⟩ I suppose one could also decrease ion engine ISP when that option is enabled, to simulate gravity losses