egg changed the topic of #principia to: Logs: https://esper.irclog.whitequark.org/principia | <scott_manley> anyone that doubts the wisdom of retrograde bop needs to get the hell out | https://xkcd.com/323/ | <egg> calculating the influence of lamont on Pluto is a bit silly…
<queqiao-> ⟨yaboiant⟩ i cant remember but with principia do i start burn at manuever node or split my burn in half and execute early?
<queqiao-> ⟨the rocket science kid⟩ ⟪yaboiant⟫ i cant remember but with principia do i […] ⮪ if you pressed show on nav all, you start the burn when the maneuver clock hits 0
<queqiao-> ⟨the rocket science kid⟩ * navball,
<queqiao-> ⟨lpg4999⟩ more frequently, you push mechjeb's "execute principia maneuver" button and let it do the work
<queqiao-> ⟨yaboiant⟩ ⟪lpg4999⟫ more frequently, you push mechjeb's […] ⮪ how new is that???
<queqiao-> ⟨lpg4999⟩ a few years?
<queqiao-> ⟨yaboiant⟩ do i need to upgrade a building to a certain level to see it? ive upgraded tracking center and contract place
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<queqiao-> ⟨_itsryan⟩ It's part of MechJeb, not Principia. It's in the MJ Maneuver Planner by default.
<queqiao-> ⟨yaboiant⟩ ⟪_itsryan⟫ It's part of MechJeb, not Principia. […] ⮪ thx... a year ago i was told mech jeb couldnt execute manuever nodes with principia so i never tried...
<_whitenotifier-1adf> [Principia] al2me6 opened pull request #3732: Only allow window shrinking when safe - https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/pull/3732
<_whitenotifier-1adf> [Principia] jcyuan06 commented on issue #3719: Tidally Locked Bodies Facing Wrong Direction Over Time - https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/issues/3719#issuecomment-1657003259
<_whitenotifier-1adf> [Principia] jcyuan06 closed issue #3719: Tidally Locked Bodies Facing Wrong Direction Over Time - https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/issues/3719
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<queqiao-> ⟨StarcatcherKSP⟩ The problem is that Principia automatically creates models for the stock planets just fine, and I’ve only scale them up, it should’ve worked
<queqiao-> ⟨egg⟩ No it should not.
<queqiao-> ⟨StarcatcherKSP⟩ ⟪egg⟫ No it should not. ⮪ Scaling them up shouldn’t have worked?
<queqiao-> ⟨StarcatcherKSP⟩ I mean aside from the retrobop thing
<queqiao-> ⟨StarcatcherKSP⟩ I used to install OPM and MPE and JMP and I don’t remember there being any Principia configs, but they still worked with Principia anyways
<queqiao-> ⟨egg⟩ Read the message I sent you. You have a "principia_initial_state" configuration. That is something you added (or some mod you installed added). The moment you start configuring things yourself that way, you need to configure things properly.
<queqiao-> ⟨StarcatcherKSP⟩ Huh
<queqiao-> ⟨StarcatcherKSP⟩ Alright
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<queqiao-> ⟨Daedalus⟩ even if it takes a few seconds for the engine to reach its maximum thrust?
<queqiao-> ⟨Daedalus⟩ ⟪the rocket science kid⟫ if you pressed show on navball, you […] ⮪ even if it takes a few seconds for the engine to reach its maximum thrust?
<queqiao-> ⟨the rocket science kid⟩ that is usually negligible, you will probably need a mid course correction anyway
<queqiao-> ⟨patrikcath⟩ 🙏 I want a Sedna mod
<queqiao-> You'll just have to guess the trajectory because Principia will crash the game if you try to simulate it all the way
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<queqiao-> ⟨clayel⟩ sedna would probably not render sadly
<queqiao-> ⟨clayel⟩ luckily itll get to perihelion at 2076 so you wouldnt really have a chance of missing it
<queqiao-> ⟨patrikcath⟩ you reckon it won't render at the aphelion of 1.5% of a light-year?
<_whitenotifier-1adf> [Principia] pleroy opened pull request #3733: Compute the flybys for the Reach save - https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/pull/3733
<_whitenotifier-1adf> [Principia] eggrobin closed pull request #3716: Additional interactions for manœuvre markers - https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/pull/3716
<queqiao-> ⟨egg⟩ > Merge remote-tracking branch 'upstream/master' into shrink_carefullyI see you don’t call it la-vache
<queqiao-> ⟨issproxima⟩ Does principia flight planner require tracking station and mission control upgrade like stock flight planner?
<queqiao-> ⟨test_account9540⟩ Yes and no
<queqiao-> ⟨test_account9540⟩ It doesn't require them to work, but it will not export the maneuver to the navball without the upgrades, so MJ won't be able to execute it
<queqiao-> ⟨issproxima⟩ it needs both MC and TS ?
<queqiao-> ⟨test_account9540⟩ yes
<queqiao-> ⟨test_account9540⟩ It doesn't require them to work, but it will not export the maneuver to the navball (create a maneuver node) without the upgrades, so MJ won't be able to execute it
<queqiao-> ⟨issproxima⟩ If I can do it manually, does that mean I don't have to upgrade mission control
<queqiao-> ⟨test_account9540⟩ Yes, but this works for simple maneuvers, not so much for lunar missions
<queqiao-> ⟨issproxima⟩ How hard is it to ram it
<queqiao-> ⟨test_account9540⟩ Also doing lunar missions without the upgrades could be considered 🧀 (it is a violation of RIS-2022 rules)
<queqiao-> ⟨issproxima⟩ Including impactor ?
<queqiao-> ⟨drveyl⟩ Sure.
<queqiao-> Of course, if you think to ask yourself why RP-1 made the requirement for maneuver planning, maybe you wouldn't ask whether using a different mod means you should try to skip those requirements.
<queqiao-> ⟨test_account9540⟩ anything, this precision is just not meant to be achievable without building upgrades
<queqiao-> ⟨test_account9540⟩ Also keep in mind that it will be very difficult to communicate without your probe at the moon without the tracking station upgrade
<queqiao-> ⟨issproxima⟩ Have to do it somehow, I accidently accepted the lunar mission (breakneck) with milton as my staff..
<queqiao-> ⟨issproxima⟩ Without principia I would be f**ked since stock flight planning does not exist without those upgrade
<queqiao-> ⟨test_account9540⟩ * with
<_whitenotifier-1adf> [Principia] pleroy closed pull request #3733: Compute the flybys for the Reach save - https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/pull/3733