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<EntropicRaptor> awang: tabs
<EntropicRaptor> awang: well, unless you have a design document that says spaces.
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<UmbralRaptor> How worried should I be if a Russian Physics professor describes a field (relativistic thermodynamics) as "fun"?
<bofh> UmbralRaptor: so I think he's right.
<UmbralRaptor> hrm
<soundnfury> UmbralRaptor: somewhere between "yikes" and "run, don't walk, to the exit"
<soundnfury> awang: I wish people would be more specific/precise when criticising "parsing using regexes"; using a regex-based _lexer_ is a _great_ idea. It's parsing using _only_ regexes that's Bad & Wrong
<soundnfury> regular lexpressions ^_^
<icefire> regulexpressions
<soundnfury> yes, that. Have a cookie
<soundnfury> !wpn icefire
* Qboid gives icefire a fractal interferometer
<SilverFox> soundnfury, you said "Bad&Wrong" this pleases me, what is this regex stuff you speak of?
<SilverFox> oh this stuff
<SilverFox> I dont like this stuff
<SilverFox> everytime I tried to do it I couldn't do it so whatevs
* UmbralRaptor hugs vim/ed regexes.
<awang> UmbralRaptor: Well, the nice thing is that there isn't a design document!
<awang> (yet)
<awang> I'm going to make one
<awang> And set up clang-tidy/clang-format while I'm at it
<awang> soundnfury: I think it's parsing?
<awang> At first glance it seems like it's trying to decompose different statements
<awang> Tempted to write a grammar for this
<awang> Bet I'll mess it up somehow though
<awang> Looks like there is some lexing going on
<awang> There's something that matches operators
<awang> And matches "and", "or", and "of"?
<awang> There's another thing that... tries to extract things from between quotes?
<awang> re.compile(r'(?<=")[^"]+|[^"]+(?=")')
<awang> My regex-fu is rusty
<awang> And idk what variant Python uses
<soundnfury> awang: Python has its own regex with blackjack and hookers. Fire up ipython, type "import re" and "re??" for docs
<soundnfury> wait, just "re?", only one ?
<UmbralRaptor> help(re) maybe?
<soundnfury> UmbralRaptor: yeah, that's the same thing. I just like ipython's way of phrasing it
<soundnfury> let's see, '(?<=")': match if preceded by ". '[^"]+': match one or more non-". '(?=")': match if followed by ".
<soundnfury> so I think that regex matches '"foo bar bletch' or 'foo bar bletch"', but not '"foo bar bletch"'. But I might be mistaken about the precedence of that |
<awang> soundnfury: What's the difference between ipython and the regular python repl?
<awang> Yeah, that's the line, more or less
<awang> Just gets assigned to a variable
<awang> Should there be more than one re?
<soundnfury> awang: ipython is just helpful with stuff like line editing, output history arrays, syntax colouring etc.
<awang> Ah
<awang> Definitely downloading that
<awang> Especially for this project
<awang> Hmmm
<soundnfury> OK, having exqerimented a little, that regex matches any string of non-" which is either preceded or followed by a "
<soundnfury> _but_ how's it being used, re.search() or re.match()?
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<soundnfury> (match() won't accept "foo because the leading " isn't part of the matched text, but will accept foo" because it allows junk after the match. search() will accept both, and also "foo".)
<awang> Only use I can find is findall
<awang> Uh
<awang> It's parsing SQL statements?
<awang> Or SQL-ish statements
<awang> There's stuff to handle parsing binary ops in parentheses, with precedence?
<soundnfury> ok, findall() is like search()
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<awang> So it's relatively ok?
<soundnfury> uh, not really, it's still a crazy regex
<soundnfury> assuming no multiline (flags=re.M), it's matching lines containing at least one " and then chopping them up into runs of not-"
<awang> Better than match(), though
<awang> ?
<soundnfury> yeah, using match() on that regex would be nuts
<awang> Doesn't appear to be any flags
<soundnfury> I think something similar could be achieved with line.split('"') and filtering out empty strings, pleh
<awang> How hard is it to write a parser in Python, anyways?
<soundnfury> not that hard, there are proper parsing libraries
<soundnfury> which I used when writing a parser for https://github.com/ec429/zak-lang
<awang> Oh right, that thing
<awang> I'll take a look around
<kmath> <vennsplain> https://t.co/l28szOwXkq
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<UmbralRaptor> ;8ball stab TOPCAT for dealing poorly with sexagesimal declination.
<kmath> UmbralRaptor: You may rely on it
* UmbralRaptor 🔪 🔝🐈
<kmath> <LincolnAtkinson> Just gave a tech talk at work on strings, encodings, #unicode Developer confided afterward "I'm afraid to use stri… https://t.co/uSagUD035w
<bofh> ...and there's another gov't shutdown just now. *headdesks*
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<rqou> hai folks, voting machines are totes secure: https://twitter.com/rqou_/status/961897769626566656
<kmath> <rqou_> Alright, JtR managed to tell me that the first two passwords are "diebold" so I only need the last one now.
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<awang> I can hear other devs here copy-pasting everything, and it's bothering me
<awang> *double click* *two keystrokes* *click* *two keystrokes*
<e_14159> awang: They didn't bind copy-paste to mouse buttons? :P
<awang> e_14159: Plz no more ideas :(
<e_14159> Oh! To the mouse wheel!
<awang> I now feel pity for the programmers called in to work on scientists' code
<awang> Noooooooo
<awang> s/scientists'/scientists' code
<Qboid> awang meant to say: I now feel pity for the programmers called in to work on scientists' code code
<awang> Er
<awang> Had part of my window off screen >_<
<e_14159> awang: Our student assistant had to debug research code (well, mostly research) which simply caught all exceptions, wrote "EXCEPTION", and continued.
<UmbralRaptor> Is Kia visiting Tharsis? https://twitter.com/alt_kia/status/961726878741446657
<kmath> <alt_kia> love to be at 52800 ft altitude while going less than 75 knots, and, simultaneously, be on the ground https://t.co/ufQAwZzg4L
<kmath> <DrKeithSmith> A trial of double-blind #PeerReview at Nature journals shows authors who opt for double blind get *worse* outcomes:… https://t.co/unaRos19dF
<e_14159> Wait, you can *choose* double-blind? If you have the infrastructure, why not enforce it?
<UmbralRaptor> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<e_14159> Good answer.
<awang> e_14159: ON ERROR RESUME NEXT
<e_14159> ON ERROR RESUME NEXT # screw you all, nobody debugs my program.
<awang> My heart goes out to that assistant
<awang> Researchers
* awang yells at researches from lawn
<e_14159> My code is documented (probably also sane), and will be published.
<e_14159> Well, it's not yet documented as well as I'd like, but I've only just submitted the paper.7
<e_14159> s/7/
<Qboid> e_14159 meant to say: Well, it's not yet documented as well as I'd like, but I've only just submitted the paper.
<awang> A rare gem, if HN is to be believed
<awang> Although with the push to make code more accessible I hope that's changing
<awang> (unless said push is just in my head)
<e_14159> I hope so, too, but I'm unsure.
<e_14159> Third-most upvoted post in the last year on /r/machinelearning: https://www.reddit.com/r/MachineLearning/comments/6l2esd/d_why_cant_you_guys_comment_your_fucking_code/
<awang> The comments on that were an interesting read
<UmbralRaptor> awang: I suspect that the push is primarily in academia. >_>
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<UmbralRaptor> Wait, industry is commenting now? I thought the consensus was that "if you need comments, you should get a different job"
* e_14159 runs away from industry
<awang> UmbralRaptor: I think it's either 1 comment per line of code or if you have any comments at all you're wasting company time by writing code that doesn't execute
<awang> Depending on your manager
* UmbralRaptor heasdesks.
<UmbralRaptor> *headdesks
<e_14159> Sounds like a shit way to work.
<awang> I think that's more corporate wheel-in-a-cog programming
<awang> I'd hope less traditional companies are a bit better
<e_14159> I wouldn't know, I don't work at a company.
<e_14159> Well, I do, but it's non-profit and a research institute, so...
<SnoopJeDi> eggstragalactic eggsoplanets
<SnoopJeDi> (unbound)
<SnoopJeDi> ((!!!))
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<bofh> SnoopJeDi: wait, unbound?! how in the fuck
<SnoopJeDi> RIGHT?!
<bofh> A) How did we FIND THEM? B) HOW ARE THEY A THING?!?
<SnoopJeDi> so, I didn't read the letter in excruciating detail (it's a happy hour link for our drink bounty this week), but AFAICT the crux of their assertion that it's unbound eggsoplanets is the red/blue shifting of the Fe Kα
<SnoopJeDi> bofh, oh is the paper not open access? I can send it to you if you'd like and it's not on sci-hub or whatever
<SnoopJeDi> but yea microlensing by planets what the ffffuuuuck
<SnoopJeDi> AFAIK unbound planets are a pretty ho-hum foregone conclusion in any galactic population though
<SnoopJeDi> with large enough N you'll definitely build up a population of ejected eggs
* awang 🔪 diffs with all the whitespace
<SnoopJeDi> awang, for having to clean it up, or legibility?
<awang> Cleaning it up
<awang> VS trying to be helpful and failing miserably
<awang> This branch should have been merged hours ago
<SnoopJeDi> ah, that sucks. I know some workflows have hooks that check that sort of compliance with a contrib guide
<SnoopJeDi> awang, could you maybe ignore whitespace with `git-diff` and prepare a cleanup commit that way?
<SnoopJeDi> (I've never done this, but ugh busywork is my nemesis)
<awang> SnoopJeDi: Yeah, I'm hoping to get a clang-format pre-commit hook set up
<awang> s/$/this weekend
<Qboid> awang meant to say: SnoopJeDi: Yeah, I'm hoping to get a clang-format pre-commit hook set upthis weekend
<SnoopJeDi> whitespaaaaace 🔪
<SnoopJeDi> I've only used hooks once, to make sure I didn't commit 100s of MBs of mesh/soln data in my FEM model repo
<SnoopJeDi> (because version management in things like COMSOL, Ansys, AutoCAD are hot garbage)
<awang> Ignoring whitespace wouldn't help fixing it, unfortunately
<awang> Lets me see things that actually changed, but that's pretty much it
<SnoopJeDi> oh it needs semantically important fixes too? blah
<awang> Hey, what's wrong with versioning gigantic binary files :P
<awang> Yes, unfortunately
<SnoopJeDi> Nothing, except that I get lots of gigantic blobs :P
<SnoopJeDi> (that I don't necessarily want)
<awang> New feature implemented, but broke backwards compatibility
<awang> So the tests are all failing miserably
<SnoopJeDi> IIRC the hook was just a bash script that checked an env flag and if it didn't find an instruction to commit results, it would open the proprietary zip-alike and strip out that data before committing a blob
<SnoopJeDi> so I could still save a big-important-result for later dredging up, but most commits were "here were the inputs and meshing scheme, you'll have to re-run the actual simulation though"
<awang> Yeah... Wish the engineers here had something like that
<SnoopJeDi> which was fine, 90% of the point I used the VCS was just so that I could look back across the history and see what changes I'd made gradually. Maybe tweaking parameter X didn't do anything back then, but now parameter Y is different so maybe it should be re-explored
<awang> 95% of our backup space is meshes and mesh results :(
<awang> (I think)
<SnoopJeDi> we used Vault for like
<SnoopJeDi> 5 minutes
<SnoopJeDi> I believe our server still runs but jfc Autodesk is bad
<SnoopJeDi> otoh drawing revisioning is actual hell
<SnoopJeDi> so you can't really tool your way out of that
* awang 🔪 implicit units
<SnoopJeDi> I happily let our principal drafter do all the drawing if I can
<awang> Luckily, I'm insulated from all the drawing and such
<awang> I'm just the code guy
<SnoopJeDi> his workflow is actually insane but as long as he's the only person who has to do it
<awang> Haven't heard of Vault before
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<SnoopJeDi> he thought I was a fucking alien because I used Inventor's Excel feature to parameterize geometry
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<SnoopJeDi> and like, actually did the basic geom/trig for constraints in that sheet
<awang> What, does he do it manually?
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<SnoopJeDi> instead of click-click-click "okay constraint solver GLHF"
<SnoopJeDi> he usually just constrains the everliving fuck out of his drawings
<awang> (I'm slightly out of my depth) :(
<awang> Ah
<SnoopJeDi> which tbf is literally what Inventor is designed for: rapid drawing
<SnoopJeDi> it's super convenient to not have to solve classic geometry problems like tangent circles blah blah
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<SnoopJeDi> but as that stuff adds up, you can get substantial interactivity delays, and worse the model will likely break at some point
<awang> Just specify "these circles should be tangent"?
<awang> Constraint drawers sound useful
<SnoopJeDi> usually situations where you have two possible solutions to a constraint and something inverts it to choose the other root
<SnoopJeDi> yea pretty much
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<SnoopJeDi> or perpendicular/parallel lines, etc.
<awang> My last experience with any CAD-related thing was Sketchup
<awang> Ah
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<SnoopJeDi> and of course "stand this piece off from this other piece by X amount"
<awang> The CAD version of numerical instability?
<SnoopJeDi> Most of the drawings on the high-field magnet I designed just used those "classical" dimensions and I did a lot of the geometry myself
<SnoopJeDi> so that I could later say "oh we need such-and-such extra space for a shim or a quench heater or [wtfever]" and change the param and update everything
<SnoopJeDi> yea, the algebraic solver is very good but only so good
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<awang> Just how slow do constraint solvers get?
<SnoopJeDi> usually only a few-seconds worth of delay, maybe as bad as a few minutes if something is Really Really Wrong
<awang> That doesn't sound too bad
<SnoopJeDi> But since it generally does that process for ANY change, even a single second of delay is infuriating
<awang> Heh
<SnoopJeDi> gotta respect the UX loop
<awang> C++ compile times, in a nutshell >_<
<SnoopJeDi> Micah bumped into it very hard a few months ago when working on the TucoFlyer
<SnoopJeDi> and I think maybe Fiora has experienced that pain as well
<SnoopJeDi> I know I've seen her grumble about CAD but it's hard to use any CAD software and *not* grumble :)
<awang> Oh boy, and now git is getting confused on how to split these diffs :(
<awang> Micah?
<awang> TucoFlyer?
<SnoopJeDi> Miach is @scanlime, and Tuco is her cat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SCMkpgi4l0
<kmath> YouTube - Tuco the Cat’s Robot - scanlime:018
<SnoopJeDi> she's making a robotic winch to play with him in the shop
<SnoopJeDi> especially for Twitch viewers to interact
<awang> Ah
<awang> Looks like I'm missing out by not being on Twitter
<SnoopJeDi> it's been really cool to watch her progress there
<SnoopJeDi> also I did not actually know the cat was polydactyl >_>
<egg|phone|egg> Meow
<awang> egg has transformed into a cat
<awang> !wpn egg|phone|egg
* Qboid gives egg|phone|egg a Burberry hummingbird
<awang> Cat food!
* UmbralRaptor goes directly from a meeting to a meeting. o_O
<UmbralRaptor> (with a 3rd meeting soon)
<e_14159> Meeting to a meeting to a meeting?
<bofh> UmbralRaptor: damn, thankfully I'm only going from a meeting to a meeting atm.
<UmbralRaptor> So egg is a catboy now?
<UmbralRaptor> e_14159: well, 2 meetings and a colloquium.
<egg|phone|egg> UmbralRaptor : a categg? Categgory theory
<UmbralRaptor> Something like that.
<UmbralRaptor> SnoopJeDi, bofh: the extragalactic exoplanet paper is on arXiv: https://arxiv.org/abs/1802.00049
<SnoopJeDi> ooh, great!
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<UmbralRaptor> "why do you keep on using checks in the 21st century, UmbralRaptor?" https://photos.app.goo.gl/4Ef9BV5owpbB0Zjk2
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<UmbralRaptor> (Or, things that would annoy the colorless fermion.)
<SnoopJeDi> !wpn -add:adj colorless
<Qboid> SnoopJeDi: Adjective added!
<SnoopJeDi> !wpn -add:adj furious
<Qboid> SnoopJeDi: Adjective added!
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<UmbralRaptor> Hrm. B787_300's MSc thesis seems to be giving him impostor syndrome.
<egg|laptop|egg> ?
<egg|laptop|egg> !wpn UmbralRaptor
* Qboid gives UmbralRaptor a chlorine brillig magma
<UmbralRaptor> Eek
<UmbralRaptor> <B787_300> ugh i feel like a fraud... my masters thesis is only 53 pgs long not including front and end matter
<UmbralRaptor> <B787_300> the one i am following on to is 123 pages long
<egg|laptop|egg> eh, I had to pad mine with an annex of things I had tried that didn't work to reach 50 pages
<egg|laptop|egg> also graphs
<SnoopJeDi> please give him our best, impostor syndrom is T H E W O R S T
<bofh> ^
<bofh> fuck it, seriously.
<egg|laptop|egg> !wpn bofh
* Qboid gives bofh a propane queue
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<B787_300> huh why am i opped in here?
<SnoopJeDi> @ for the @ god!
<SnoopJeDi> !wpn B787_300
* Qboid gives B787_300 a phototransistor
<B787_300> ...
<egg|laptop|egg> !wpn B787_300
* Qboid gives B787_300 a pharmacological mass-driver
<SnoopJeDi> hi B787_300, how goes it?
<B787_300> decent snoop
<B787_300> decent
<B787_300> just submitted first draft of thesis to my advisor
<SnoopJeDi> Congrats!
<B787_300> which makes me so damn nervous
<UmbralRaptor> ^
<B787_300> like it is only 53 pages long not inluding front and end matter
<SnoopJeDi> understandable, it's a very big threshold
<B787_300> and some pers are 100+ pages long
<B787_300> ^peers
<SnoopJeDi> what degree are you pursuing, again? pagecount is usually a pretty lousy metric
<B787_300> Astronautical Engineering
<B787_300> my thesis was looking at a constellation design to do SSA
<B787_300> lots of simulations using STK and ODTK
<B787_300> 166040 constellations all told
<kmath> <catcontent> this is a strange looking tangerine https://t.co/bJWR55QGFG
<B787_300> well really 1740 constellations at 96 hours thought the year for the 167040 simulations
<bofh> by /win 27
<SnoopJeDi> Neato
<SnoopJeDi> You might be able to find aggregated stats on pagecount on a professional site, but as long as the content's there and your advisor's remarks are helpful, I think you can weather it.
<B787_300> bofh: what?
<SnoopJeDi> I think he started to type something and then intended to switch windows
<SnoopJeDi> incidentally, conciseness is one of my favorite things about that ApJ letter, bofh. It's a PERFECT level of information for someone doing anything-but-exactly-that
<B787_300> SnoopJeDi: i mean one paper i reference is from the sister school to mine and it is only 47 pages of content
<SnoopJeDi> that ref is a thesis?
<B787_300> yep
<SnoopJeDi> yea, pagecount is just...a bad measure, unless the thing you care about is how much writing someone did haha
<SnoopJeDi> It's definitely helpful to know when it's grown impractically large (praise be to judicious use of appendices by responsible authors)
<bofh> B787_300: disregard, irssi command.
<SnoopJeDi> there's an Einsteinian bromide about this, isn't there?
<SnoopJeDi> (or statistically speaking a someone-else bromide that has been misattributed to him)
<SnoopJeDi> ah yes, Antoine de Saint-Exupery: "Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away."
<B787_300> SnoopJeDi: oh dude... if i put my full output csv in the appendix it would be like 800 pages long
<B787_300> (just that appendix)
<SnoopJeDi> The student who previously worked on my topic had...*checks*...83 pages of source code in her appendix haha
<UmbralRaptor> Hah.
<SnoopJeDi> but I meant more pragmatic appendices like proofs of this-or-that property, reviewing theoretical subtleties blah blah
* UmbralRaptor is reminded of that NTRS paper with 40+ pages of FORTRAN.
<SnoopJeDi> a good example in accelerator physics would be the unfortunate mixture of ways to express multipoles
<B787_300> hehehe all my data generaton code is ~800 lines long and generates 334080 reports which then get condensed down to the aforementioned csv
<SnoopJeDi> most people use the European way anymore, but my boss is one of the stragglers who positively insists on the old American style from the 70s
<B787_300> thats another thing why in the Lit review chapter do people feel like starting from the bare minimum? almost anyone who reads your paper will have a bachelors in the topic or years of experience
<SnoopJeDi> Are you speaking about papers, or theses?
<B787_300> do i really need to know how you go from the two body equation to the SGP4?
<SnoopJeDi> In the case of the latter, the perhaps-unfortunate truth is that the writing is not really intended to be read, heh.
<B787_300> theses
<SnoopJeDi> and if it will be read, the informed reader just uses the table of contents to get to what they want
<SnoopJeDi> the nice upshot is that students might find a very nice one-stop shop in looking for a result
<SnoopJeDi> but the actual method of communication in most fields (I don't know AE, mind) is the journals
<SnoopJeDi> (thus the jokes about theses being a bunch of papers literally pasted together: they usually are and probably ought to be!)
<B787_300> i mean mine is for the first 3 chapters, ch 4 is allllllll mine. ch 5 is a mix
<SnoopJeDi> in the context of a thesis it's also important to remember that most committees are pretty diverse, so it can be helpful there too
<B787_300> for reference CH 1 is motivation, CH 2 is Lit Review, Ch 3 is Methodology, CH 4 is results/analysis CH 5 is conclusion/significance
<SnoopJeDi> sounds about right
<B787_300> my committee is pretty monolithicly Engineers who have been working with space stuff for a LONG time
<SnoopJeDi> fair nuff, context is everything
<SnoopJeDi> knowing your audience is a skill, not a liability :) If you know your committee doesn't need that information and they don't really request it, there's imo not an obligatory reason to put it in
<SnoopJeDi> you're writing it primarily to show your competency to them
<B787_300> i also will know like 95% of the people coming to my defense and all of them are AEs
<SnoopJeDi> they're gonna have good gotchas, then :)
<B787_300> which is both a blessing and a curse
<B787_300> yep SnoopJeDi exactly
<B787_300> another gripe is i cant bring in my computer with the fata vizulization software on it
<B787_300> s/fata/data
<Qboid> B787_300 meant to say: another gripe is i cant bring in my computer with the data vizulization software on it
<SnoopJeDi> backup slides are a great way to tackle the beartrap questions, imo
<B787_300> i can tell i have been doing a lot of typing today... my typo rate has gone up
<B787_300> and this software doesnt look that good in a static mode
<SnoopJeDi> even if you're *positive* the subject will come up in a talk, there's something to be said for sticking that info in backup slides. you get to say "oh yep I anticipated that" but also have a way to say "okay here's what I have prepped for this and what I have off the top of my head, we have to take this offline if you want to discuss more"
<SnoopJeDi> assuming it's not critical to the central material that is
<B787_300> I am just practicing my " I dont know right now, let me double check and get back to you"
<SnoopJeDi> 👍
<SnoopJeDi> got a practice talk planned with colleagues you trust to give you good feedback?
<B787_300> like one of the questions i know i am going to get is why are my results so much better than the preceeding research and i only have one answer which in the most consise way of putting it is "the previous research's metric that she based everything off of was an idiotic metric"
<SnoopJeDi> 🔥
<B787_300> seriously tho
<B787_300> my and no i dont have a practice scheduled as i have to do it at AFIT or at work and I dont want to do it at work as then i learn things i cant share outside of work
<bofh> 22:33:38 <@B787_300> do i really need to know how you go from the two body equation to the SGP4?
<bofh> if you have a good reference on that, that'd be *helpful* honestly.
<B787_300> bofh: you want one?
<bofh> yes
<B787_300> BMW also has a decent write up on it
<B787_300> oh BMW is Bate, Mueller, and White
<B787_300> and then Wiesel Modern Astrodynamics is also interesting
<B787_300> (less for SGP4 but other methods)
<egg|laptop|egg> !wpn B787_300
* Qboid gives B787_300 a strontium functional
<B787_300> !wpn egg|laptop|egg
* Qboid gives egg|laptop|egg a LALR(1) merge conflict
<soundnfury> !wpn egg|laptop|egg
* Qboid gives egg|laptop|egg a driven iBod
<B787_300> egg|laptop|egg: you are working a masters or PHD in n body physics right?
<B787_300> does he have a bit if the room gets too quiet or something?
<UmbralRaptor> Or something.
<UmbralRaptor> IIRC, he's graduated from ETHZ with an MSc in Math, and working at Google now.
<bofh> B787_300: thanks, this is exactly what I wanted.
<B787_300> bofh: no problem
<UmbralRaptor> Principia is presumably on his resume, though.
<B787_300> i would hope so
<egg|laptop|egg> B787_300: yeah what UmbralRaptor said
<egg|laptop|egg> finished my MSc. in october 2016
<egg|laptop|egg> no snake fight for master's here though
<B787_300> how did you avoid it
<B787_300> bofh: also how do you know about organic peroxides?
<B787_300> (yes i just read the channel starter and funny things)
<egg|laptop|egg> B787_300: it's just not a thing for the MSc. here
<egg|laptop|egg> you only fight snakes to become a doctor
<B787_300> egg|laptop|egg: i mean some MSc here in the states are Class and Test only
<egg|laptop|egg> presumably a doctor in herpetolog
<egg|laptop|egg> s/$/y
<Qboid> egg|laptop|egg meant to say: presumably a doctor in herpetology
<egg|laptop|egg> B787_300: I did write a thesis though
<egg|laptop|egg> just no snake fight
<B787_300> did you defend your thesis?
<egg|laptop|egg> thesis is on github fwiw
<egg|laptop|egg> B787_300: no, no snake fight
<B787_300> wait so you wrote a thesis but then didnt have to defend it in a presentation?
<egg|laptop|egg> UmbralRaptor: https://twitter.com/AcademiaObscura/status/961755319415246850 iirc you did that with dinosaur pics?
<kmath> <AcademiaObscura> Fun tests to see how many students read the syllabus! | https://t.co/75SnMjjmnS https://t.co/KBhneOsBDm
<egg|laptop|egg> B787_300: eggsactly
<UmbralRaptor> egg|laptop|egg: I did, and got one response.
<B787_300> egg|laptop|egg: also the test is a bit invalid... if they offered extra credit...
<egg|laptop|egg> ?
<B787_300> the syllabus reading
* UmbralRaptor sent a somewhat silly email to a person who told us not to send homework via owl in his syllabus.
<egg|laptop|egg> UmbralRaptor: can you send an owl via homewark
<egg|laptop|egg> s/wark/work
<Qboid> egg|laptop|egg meant to say: UmbralRaptor: can you send an owl via homework
<UmbralRaptor> Wark! Wark! </chocobo>
<UmbralRaptor> egg|laptop|egg: My homework generally isn't in a format that would let me email them a few TB of DNA.
<egg|laptop|egg> UmbralRaptor: ah you don't turn it in physically?
<egg|laptop|egg> if you did you could just plonk an owl into the pigeonhole
<UmbralRaptor> Hah!
<UmbralRaptor> All homework was emailed in that class.
<UmbralRaptor> Unrelated, Thermodynamics homework feels way too easy. Like it naturally tends to a solved state, or something…