egg|nomz|egg changed the topic of #kspacademia to: https://gist.github.com/pdn4kd/164b9b85435d87afbec0c3a7e69d3e6d | Dogs are cats. Spiders are cat interferometers. | Космизм сегодня! | Document well, for tomorrow you may get mauled by a ネコバス. | <UmbralRaptor> egg|nomz|egg: generally if your eyes are dewing over, that's not the weather. | <ferram4> I shall beat my problems to death with an engineer.
<egg|zzz|egg> whitequark: bofh: do you know why clang thinks NaN or infinities are UB for the purposes of constexpr? https://github.com/llvm-mirror/clang/blob/master/lib/AST/ExprConstant.cpp#L2202 Ꙩ_ꙩ
<egg|zzz|egg> or Fiora
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<egg|zzz|egg> well operations resulting in one that is, but still
<soundnfury> "The best study of this phenomenon was the Multimodal Treatment of ADHD (MTA) study, which randomized children to be treated with stimulants or “behavioral therapy” (eg learning coping skills, etc). Behavioral therapy for ADHD is not very good and I interpret it as a nice way of saying placebo."
<AASRaptor> The ? is because AAS can't do ⁂ let alone 𒀯
<AASRaptor> Incidentally, only ~10% of people here have pronouns listed.
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<whitequark> pronouns?
<whitequark> listed?
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* soundnfury just seriously used the word anecdatum
* soundnfury is inordinately proud
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<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn whitequark
* Qboid gives whitequark a decapod ███████
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn -add:adj pronominal
<Qboid> egg|zzz|egg: Adjective added!
<AASRaptor> whitequark: Yes, why?
<soundnfury> !wpn -add:wpn anecdatum
<Qboid> soundnfury: Weapon added!
<soundnfury> !wpn egg|zzz|egg
* Qboid gives egg|zzz|egg a prime meganeuropsis
<soundnfury> !wpn AASRaptor
* Qboid gives AASRaptor a solenoidal quill
<AASRaptor> !wpn soundnfury
* Qboid gives soundnfury a manifold
<soundnfury> hmm, if the quill cannot rotate, does that make calligraphy harder or easier?
<egg|zzz|egg> soundnfury: stop waking me up at half past three
<soundnfury> (or have I got it wrong and solenoidal is the div==0 component and not the curl==0 component)
<soundnfury> egg|zzz|egg: since you spoke half an hour ago, I evaluated <egg|zzz|egg> close to zero, sorry
<egg|zzz|egg> to be honest that's generally a good assumption
<soundnfury> (mainly I hadn't noticed it was as long as half an hour, I just saw it as "three lines ago")
<whitequark> AASRaptor: i mean
<whitequark> listed where
<whitequark> !wpn -add:wpn neurosis
<Qboid> whitequark: Weapon added!
<egg|zzz|egg> whitequark: well, umbralraptor linked a photo of a badge
<AASRaptor> whitequark: on the name badges (see pic https://photos.app.goo.gl/SUhw9uL9yUiHDtON2)
<egg|zzz|egg> whitequark: ah, can now get a meganeuropsis with a neurosis attachment
<egg|zzz|egg> whitequark: I wonder why clang decided not to allow operations that yield NaN or infinity in constexpr code (but of course you can still manipulate those, since they can be obtained constexprly by numeric_limits)
<egg|zzz|egg> [boatcat] I should write a patch I guess
<egg|zzz|egg> but then not sure whether I want to engage in an open-source mailing list discussion on interpreting the C++ standard and on floating point arithmetic
<egg|zzz|egg> !choose sleep|where is my phone
<Qboid> egg|zzz|egg: Your options are: sleep, where is my phone. My choice: where is my phone
<egg|phone|egg> Here you stupid egg
<whitequark> egg|zzz|egg: clang's mailing list is quite pleasant IME
<whitequark> but I'd probably just drop by #llvm and ask there first
<egg|phone|egg> Hmm; maybe I should try it someday then
<egg|phone|egg> Or IRC I guess, but when I'm more awake
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<whitequark> egg|zzz|egg: do you have some unicode lookalike for a colon?
<whitequark> oh, fulwidth
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<bofh> !u ★ok★
<Qboid> U+2605 BLACK STAR (★)
<Qboid> U+006F LATIN SMALL LETTER O (o)
<Qboid> U+006B LATIN SMALL LETTER K (k)
<Qboid> U+2605 BLACK STAR (★)
<egg|phone|egg> Whitequark: Sorry was asleep; what for?
<whitequark> nevermind
<whitequark> I have uh
<whitequark> and I was going to send someone on Windows an archive called "C:\>COPY *.* A: /V"
<whitequark> and I've realized that was not going to work
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<egg|phone|egg> Whitequark: hm, the constexpr infinity thing was added by a colleague in 2012, together with integer overflow checking
<whitequark> googler?
<whitequark> whom?
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<egg|phone|egg> Richard Smith
<egg|zzz|egg> whitequark:
<egg|zzz|egg> whitequark: seems he likes checking for this stuff, but in ubsan he made it optional http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/cfe-dev/2013-March/028587.html
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<kmath_> <chris__martin> security warning: it is possible, under certain conditions, to read some bits of information from a LaTeX error mes… https://t.co/Ztyirw2oSH
<kmath_> <Bodegacats_> https://t.co/oHveNZSt6N
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<AASRaptor> egg|zzz|egg: Apparently there's an IAU meeting in Vienna in August?
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<egg|work|egg> AASRaptor: ooh, are you coming?
* egg|work|egg pets AASRaptor
* AASRaptor probably will =\
<egg|work|egg> yay
<egg|work|egg> !choose go to vienna|teleport AASRaptor through some mountains
<Qboid> egg|work|egg: Your options are: go to vienna, teleport AASRaptor through some mountains. My choice: teleport AASRaptor through some mountains
<AASRaptor> meep
* AASRaptor found a spider that is sadly far too expensive for ANBO. https://telescopes.net/store/primaluce-lab-spider-230c-compact-radio-telescope.html
<egg|work|egg> hmm
<egg|work|egg> comes with a fancy equatorial mount too :-p
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<egg|work|egg> AASRaptor: https://twitter.com/FioraAeterna/status/949333409477754880 I'm not sure what this is about but it seems related to the fact that the only thing there is to life is triangles
<kmath_> <FioraAeterna> https://t.co/Pvj3Kzj2Uv
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<kmath_> <stephentyrone> @pedantcoder Yes, because it snowed so much that they closed the mountain.
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<AASRaptor> SH0ES?
<AASRaptor> HOLiCOW?
<AASRaptor> hrm
<egg|phone|egg> You should add them
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<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn whitequark
* Qboid gives whitequark an organometallic icosahedron
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn AASRaptor
* Qboid gives AASRaptor a monopole
<egg|zzz|egg> !acr -add:H0LiCOW H₀ Lenses in COSMOGRAIL's Wellspring
<Qboid> egg|zzz|egg: I already know an explanation for H0LiCOW! (Update it with !acr -update:H0LiCOW H₀ Lenses in COSMOGRAIL's Wellspring)
<egg|zzz|egg> ...
<egg|zzz|egg> H0LiCOW?
<Qboid> egg|zzz|egg: [H0LiCOW] => H0 Lenses in COSMOGRAIL's Wellspring
<egg|zzz|egg> COMSOGRAIL?
<egg|zzz|egg> !acr -add:COSMOGRAIL COSmological MOnitoring of GRAvItational Lenses
<Qboid> egg|zzz|egg: I added the explanation for this acronym.
<egg|zzz|egg> !u ₀
<Qboid> U+2080 SUBSCRIPT ZERO (₀)
<egg|zzz|egg> NICMOS?
<Qboid> egg|zzz|egg: [NICMOS] => Near Infrared Camera and Multi-Object Spectrometer
<egg|zzz|egg> PANS?
<egg|zzz|egg> !acr -add:PANS Probing Acceleration Now with Supernovae
<Qboid> egg|zzz|egg: I added the explanation for this acronym.
<awang> !wpn -add:wpn groat
<Qboid> awang: Weapon added!
<awang> !wpn -add:adj virtual
<Qboid> awang: Adjective added!
<awang> !wpn -add:adj static
<Qboid> awang: Adjective already added!
<kmath_> <xzqx> Baxter wrinkles his nose up too! https://t.co/vsay9cHjbd
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* AASRaptor 🔪 the authors with a ネコバス. https://photos.app.goo.gl/FEC29cWhGtuCKWdB2
<AASRaptor> Document what code you used!
<AASRaptor> (also, I saw an Ellied doppleganger)
<AASRaptor> !acr -add:LRG-BEASTS Low Resolution Ground-Based Exoplanet Atmosphere Survey using Transmission Spectroscopy
<Qboid> AASRaptor: I added the explanation for this acronym.
<AASRaptor> James Kirk also wants to perform a follow-up named SML-BEASTS.
<Ellied> AASRaptor: an Ellied doppelgänger?!
<AASRaptor> They looked somewhat like your selfies?
<AASRaptor> apparently someone else
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<egg|phone|egg> !wpn bofh
* Qboid gives bofh a diglossic GPL'd 🗡
<egg|phone|egg> Bofh: do you have any experience with estrin's scheme
<soundnfury> !wpn egg|phone|egg
* Qboid gives egg|phone|egg a strong mace
<bofh> egg|phone|egg: yeah. not useful unless you're evaluating high-order polynomials (degree > ~11 was the cutoff I found benchmarking on HSW), at which point I have to ask why is evaluating 11th-order polys in your critical path?
<egg|phone|egg> Phl seems to find it's useful a bit earlier (3d polynomials fwiw), and our Чебышёв series for ephemerides can be high or
<egg|phone|egg> Der
<egg|phone|egg> I mean maybe they're high but it's not my problem
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: there seems to be lots of spilling in the generated code tho
<egg|zzz|egg> not sure if if that's expected or not a concern or something
<bofh> egg|zzz|egg: okay for 3d polynomials it's a clear win even at low order
<bofh> that being said, multidimensional polynomials aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
<egg|zzz|egg> :D
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: templates everywhere though, so we could switch from one scheme to the other at predefined orders :D
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: also, templates everywhere, so we could do 6d polynomials of DegreesOfFreedom if we wanted
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: also the coefficients are slightly annoying to write since they all have different types :-p
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: relatedly, would it make sense to look at the packed operations for multidimensional polynomials aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa?
* egg|zzz|egg surprised by the spill generation
<bofh> yes. like the spill generation sounds like you're hittingba compiler edgecase, other people here'd know more about that than me. :P