egg|nomz|egg changed the topic of #kspacademia to: https://gist.github.com/pdn4kd/164b9b85435d87afbec0c3a7e69d3e6d | Dogs are cats. Spiders are cat interferometers. | Космизм сегодня! | Document well, for tomorrow you may get mauled by a ネコバス. | <UmbralRaptor> egg|nomz|egg: generally if your eyes are dewing over, that's not the weather. | <ferram4> I shall beat my problems to death with an engineer.
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<QualifyingRaptor> !wpn awang
* Qboid gives awang an IEEE 488 monorail
<awang> !wpn -add:adj IEEE 754
<Qboid> awang: Adjective already added!
<awang> !wpn -add:adj IEEE 1394
<Qboid> awang: Adjective added!
<awang> !wpn QualifyingRaptor
* Qboid gives QualifyingRaptor a katakana ␆
<awang> !wpn egg|zzz|egg
* Qboid gives egg|zzz|egg a Kordylewski токамак
<QualifyingRaptor> awang: pls no wirefire
<QualifyingRaptor> !wpn -add:adj ISO 9
<Qboid> QualifyingRaptor: Adjective added!
<QualifyingRaptor> !wpn -add:adj ISO 8601
<Qboid> QualifyingRaptor: Adjective added!
<QualifyingRaptor> !wpn -add:adj RFC 1149
<Qboid> QualifyingRaptor: Adjective added!
<bofh_> QualifyingRaptor: for this purpose I recommend 45kV @ 125kHz AC
<QualifyingRaptor> !wpn -add:adj RFC 2549
<Qboid> QualifyingRaptor: Adjective added!
<awang> !wpn -add:wpn etherkiller
<Qboid> awang: Weapon added!
<QualifyingRaptor> bofh_: ow
<awang> !wpn -add:adj ISO 9899
<Qboid> awang: Adjective added!
<awang> !wpn -add:adj ISO 14882
<Qboid> awang: Adjective added!
<awang> QualifyingRaptor: y no wirefire?
<QualifyingRaptor> Wait, C has *defined* behavior?
<bofh_> still amused at that time I got a bad burn on my hand due to my own damn fault and it kept hurting way too much so I went and shocked my hand with 10kV @ 60Hz AC and that took care of the problem for a few hours.
<awang> 😱
<QualifyingRaptor> awang: silly reasons. Apparently you can so USB shenanigans but more so.
<bofh_> basically hyperpolarizing Nav1.8-containing neurons for a bit via the most bruteforce method possible.
<QualifyingRaptor> 😨
<bofh_> (ofc I had no idea about the mechanism then, just remembering that the last time I shocked myself accidentally via the same Jacob's Ladder my entire arm was numb for hours)
<awang> bofh_: What are you doing that involves getting shocked by a Jacob's Ladder multiple times?
<bofh_> awang: the first time I had the rods positioned too far apart for the ambient humidity and the initial arc wouldn't form, I thought I had unplugged it then when I went to grab one of the electrodes (actually an unbent coathanger) and, well, it wasn't.
<bofh_> the second time was intentional, I used a brief electrical shock as an analgesic :P (it worked)
<awang> I can see it now
<awang> Operating theatre with a giant sparking Tesla coil
<awang> Either way, sounds... fun
<bofh_> so I was a bit of an idiot and a halogen bulb that was lit for hours burned out, so I turned off the light fixture and tried to pull it out, forgetting that glass has a fairly nontrivial heat capacity.
<awang> Nice
<awang> Is that where the burn came from?
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<awang> So, did you know that `sed -i '' **/*` apparently replaces symlinks with copies of their destinations?
<Ellied> speaking of abusing ports, am I right in my assessment that sticking a USB-C plug (or any other similarly-shaped bit of metal) in a USB-A socket and shorting the Vbus rail to one or both of the data lines will damage the bus?
<Ellied> I hope not but going off of what scanlime told me months ago on the bird website...
<bofh_> awang: yes to the burn, wat to the sed command.
<awang> I have no clue how we found that
<awang> s/we/he
<Qboid> awang meant to say: I have no clue how he found that
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* Qboid gives bofh_ a war-surplus flask/dynamorphism hybrid
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn Ellied
* Qboid gives Ellied a principled hummingbird
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn awang
* Qboid gives awang a nutating pentode with a McBoatFace attachment
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn Qboid
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<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn QualifyingRaptor
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<egg|zzz|egg> !csharp "W\u0307"
<Qboid> Ẇ
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<kmath> <mcclure111> Cruel Angel's Thesis Advisor
<QualifyingRaptor> ;8ball Did I pass Classical Mechanics?
<kmath> QualifyingRaptor: Yeah
<QualifyingRaptor> ;8ball Will I pass Quantum Mechanics?
<kmath> QualifyingRaptor: Outlook not so good
* QualifyingRaptor applies a time evolution operator to kmath.
<egg|work|egg> !wpn QualifyingRaptor
* Qboid gives QualifyingRaptor a directed photodiode
<egg|work|egg> !wpn whitequark
* Qboid gives whitequark a krypton brioche
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<awang> !wpn -add:wpn devirtualized
<Qboid> awang: Weapon added!
<awang> Er
<awang> !wpn -remove:wpn devirtualized
<Qboid> awang: Weapon removed!
<awang> !wpn -add:adj devirtualized
<Qboid> awang: Adjective added!
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<awang> So how skeptical should I be of this guy?
<awang> Response wasn't really good on HN
<egg|work|egg> not going to read a patent, but the title yells "crank"
<egg|work|egg> okay the title of the patent yells "crank" even louder
<egg|work|egg> cc bofh_ for laughs
<egg|work|egg> bofh_: you have an _
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<awang> !wpn -add:wpn crank
<Qboid> awang: Weapon added!
<bofh> awang: ROFL
<egg|work|egg> !wpn -add:adj cranky
<Qboid> egg|work|egg: Adjective added!
<bofh> The answer to "how skeptical should one be of that claim" is "yes".
<awang> Awesome
<awang> I love announcements like this, because watching claims being torn apart is fun
<egg|work|egg> !wpn bofh
* Qboid gives bofh a sub-calibre short-range 🔪
<awang> !wpn -add:wpn patent
<Qboid> awang: Weapon added!
<awang> !wpn -add:wpn _
<Qboid> awang: Weapon added!
<APlayer> Does a "patented" Qboid adjective exist?
<awang> !wpn -add:adj patented
<Qboid> awang: Adjective added!
<awang> APlayer: It does now :P
<APlayer> In that case,
<APlayer> !wpn awang
* Qboid gives awang a soldering teledildonics
<APlayer> That sounds more weird than I expected Qboid things to be
<bofh> awang: like it's just unums, except not even very good unums.
<awang> !wpn APlayer
* Qboid gives APlayer a lambda δ-function
<awang> !wpn bofh
* Qboid gives bofh an explosive creole
<awang> bofh: Which is why it's going to solve all the problems, right?
<QualifyingRaptor> Prediction: passed classical, failed quantum.
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<bofh> !wpn UmbralRaptor
* Qboid gives UmbralRaptor a gun
<UmbralRaptor> Uh
<APlayer> That's surprisingly banal
<APlayer> Might be useful in passing Quantum, actually
<APlayer> :P
<awang> !wpn -add:adj banal
<Qboid> awang: Adjective added!
<awang> !wpn -add:wpn widget
<Qboid> awang: Weapon added!
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn APlayer
* Qboid gives APlayer an ideograph
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn bofh
* Qboid gives bofh a dorsal recurve sNaN
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn awang
* Qboid gives awang a tarrasque
<APlayer> !wpn UmbralRaptor
* Qboid gives UmbralRaptor a Bayesian embedding
<awang> !wpn -add:wpn vector
<Qboid> awang: Weapon already added!
<awang> !wpn -add:adj vector
<Qboid> awang: Adjective added!
<awang> !wp -add:adj raster
<awang> !wpn -add:adj raster
<Qboid> awang: Adjective added!
<egg|work|egg> !wpn UmbralRaptor
* Qboid gives UmbralRaptor a banal brioche
<egg|work|egg> Qboid likes brioche today
<egg|work|egg> whitequark got a krypton one
<egg|work|egg> ... now I want a brioche too
<UmbralRaptor> "Statistical physics, often called for brevity simply statistics…"
* UmbralRaptor stares at Landau.
<bofh> Ahh yes.
<bofh> That's... always odd to stumble across.
<bofh> mm, brioches
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<Qboid> awang: Weapon added!
<awang> !wpn -add:adj string
<Qboid> awang: Adjective added!
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<Qboid> awang: Weapon already added!
<awang> !wpn -add:wpn state machine
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<xShadowx> why are sandwich so good? is there something beyond just tossing together a b and c ?
<xShadowx> if done properly, nomz, if not done properly...i seen some crap
<xShadowx> so it cant just be tossing stuff together
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<awang> !wpn -add:wpn sandwich
<Qboid> awang: Weapon added!
<APlayer> ;seen lamont
<kmath> APlayer: lamont (~lamont@c-73-225-12-253.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) was last seen joining in #principia 10 hours and 33 minutes ago
<awang> Library of babel?
<UmbralRaptor> Uh, hopefully not like Borges.
<bofh> What's wrong w/Borges' library of babel?
<UmbralRaptor> bofh: Nothing if you're using the books for generating cryptographically secure random numbers.
<e_14159> UmbralRaptor: What else would you use a book for?
<UmbralRaptor> uh
<UmbralRaptor> ebooks_14159?
<e_14159> I was joking.
<e_14159> But actually, most of the time, yes. It's much more practical in the subway.
<APlayer> What's that, even?
<UmbralRaptor> APlayer: which thing?
<APlayer> awang's link
<APlayer> Is that what the title says, or does the book contain more useful data?
<awang> APlayer: Pretty sure it's what it says on the cover
<awang> Or so I've read the last time I saw it posted somewhere
* APlayer frowns
<awang> Probably would have been much more useful in the days where rng wasn't nearly as easy
<awang> Or accessible
<APlayer> Still costs as much as it would have back then, despite the usefulness dropping off extremely
<awang> Yeah, but it's not the only thing for which that is true
<awang> Wonder if the high price is because of low supply and a moderate amount of demand from people who think it's funny
<UmbralRaptor> Originally published in 1955.
<awang> Also in the category of "old tech but same prices": TI-83/84 calculators
<awang> Hmmm
<UmbralRaptor> Incidentally, the TI-89 uses a really nifty combination of 2 linear congruent generators for its PRNG.
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn UmbralRaptor
* Qboid gives UmbralRaptor a carbon widget
<UmbralRaptor> !wpn egg|zzz|egg
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* UmbralRaptor has questions about Qboid and chemistry.
<APlayer> LOL
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: hm, the diapsid website seems garbled?
<UmbralRaptor> How so?
<egg|zzz|egg> ERR_TIMED_OUT
<UmbralRaptor> A whale fell on several birds?
<egg|zzz|egg> !csharp "C\u0304"
<Qboid> C̄
<bofh> uh that's a combining character :P
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: yes
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: is there a precombined character that I'm missing?
<egg|zzz|egg> s/bin/pos/
<Qboid> egg|zzz|egg meant to say: bofh: is there a precomposed character that I'm missing?
<egg|zzz|egg> !u C̄
<Qboid> U+0043 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER C (C)
<Qboid> U+0304 COMBINING MACRON (◌̄)
<egg|zzz|egg> !u c̄
<Qboid> U+0063 LATIN SMALL LETTER C (c)
<Qboid> U+0304 COMBINING MACRON (◌̄)
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn bofh
* Qboid gives bofh a Белинский soap
<egg|zzz|egg> the soap oscillates in ways that are related to continued fractions
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: sun http://www.icra.it/solar/Sole2.pdf
<awang> !wpn -add:adj capital
<Qboid> awang: Adjective added!
<UmbralRaptor> Solar Egglipse
<awang> !wpn -add:wpn capitol
<Qboid> awang: Weapon added!
<awang> !wpn -add:wpn capital
<Qboid> awang: Weapon added!
<bofh> egg|zzz|egg: no, not as far as I know
<egg|zzz|egg> meow
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: context: writing documentation for Principia https://gist.github.com/eggrobin/a02c9e33010be6eca7fdce83e836063b
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: yes, I like giving silly names to things, so you can have a *nominal* or a *sufficient* body config node :-p
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: at least they're not normal or sufficiently regular
<awang> !wpn -add:adj nominal
<Qboid> awang: Adjective already added!
<awang> !wpn -add:adj sufficient
<Qboid> awang: Adjective added!
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: also I'm digging through old tweets and finding this again https://twitter.com/whitequark/status/840988072116273153 :D
<kmath> <whitequark> there's C++ code and then there's C++ code in Principia https://t.co/7yzqs9v8uL
<awang> !wpn -add:wpn tweet
<Qboid> awang: Weapon added!
<awang> Now all Principia needs is LaTeX identifiers
<egg|zzz|egg> I mean, I could do better than that with just plain text already
<egg|zzz|egg> mathematical alphanumerics
<awang> Mathematical alphanumerics?
<awang> Ah
<awang> Yeah, guess that works too
<egg|zzz|egg> see I could have A𝐀𝐴𝑨𝖠𝗔𝘈𝘼𝒜𝓐𝔄𝕬𝙰𝔸 be 14 different identifiers
<awang> Taking obfuscation to the next level
<awang> Better hope your IDE supports Unicode fonts
<egg|zzz|egg> (of course these have nothing to do with Α𝚨𝛢𝜜𝝖𝞐 which are αs, not as)
<awang> Even better
<egg|zzz|egg> ferram4_: I'm scared https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/162200-wip122-131-principia%E2%80%94version-clifford-released-2018-01-17%E2%80%94n-body-and-extended-body-gravitation-axial-tilt/&page=37&tab=comments#comment-3271665
<awang> "but we take great pride in using all the possible writing systems in our version names."
<awang> Principia in a nutshell
<egg|zzz|egg> also our identifiers
<ferram4_> egg|zzz|egg, Don't you still need separate builds for each OS?
<ferram4_> I don't believe CKAN supports that.
<egg|zzz|egg> ferram4_: nah it's now all one download
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<egg|zzz|egg> (which has three directories with the shared libs for the three platforms)
<egg|zzz|egg> but you just plonk it all in gamedata and it picks the right dll/so/whatever
<awang> s/whatever/dylib
<egg|zzz|egg> (I think it should be called dylib on mac but we make an so)
<awang> ^
<ferram4> egg|zzz|egg, I advise dropping all non-ASCII characters if you're going to allow this.
<egg|zzz|egg> awang: I should rename it to dll to troll you
<egg|zzz|egg> ferram4: that is most definitely not an option
<ferram4> The CKAN version comparer is stupid.
<ferram4> Extremely stupid.
* awang readies the pitchforks
<ferram4> Thinks 0.15_CODENAME is later than 0.15.2_CODENAME2 kinda stupid.
<awang> egg|zzz|egg: Even better: Principia.COM
<awang> ferram4: Is that just a straight alphabetical string comparison?
<ferram4> I think?
<ferram4> I don't recall exactly what they did.
<bofh> CKAN?
<Qboid> bofh: [CKAN] => Comprehensive Kerbal Archive Network
<bofh> 21:11 <@egg|zzz|egg> bofh: at least they're not normal or sufficiently regular <- and not, say, T4½?
<bofh> btw, why on earth are they called "vulgar" fractions in the Unicode spec anyhow?
<egg|zzz|egg> ferram4: okay so I think our version tags are actually stupid-safe
<awang> egg|zzz|egg: Famous last words :P
<egg|zzz|egg> I mean in the sense ferram4 mentions
<egg|zzz|egg> ferram4: they are CCYYMMDDhh-$mathematician
<egg|zzz|egg> (why am I using ISO 8601:1988 instead of ISO 8601:2004, I meant YYYYMMDDhh)
<ferram4> Do not trust it.
<egg|zzz|egg> ferram4: otoh we do have separate downloads for 1.3.1 and 1.2.2
<egg|zzz|egg> so that might get fun :-p
<ferram4> You will trust it.
<ferram4> And then something will happen that you expected not to because you thought they were sane.
<ferram4> And you will start to rip out your hair.
<egg|zzz|egg> oh I definitely don't expect sanity from them
<egg|zzz|egg> or from anywhere really
<egg|zzz|egg> working in i18n has greatly lowered my expectation of sanity
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn bofh
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<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: also I like that my documentation for confused modders starts with some EBNF and then links to the WGCCRE special report and the IERS conventions for semantics
<egg|zzz|egg> <egg|confusing|egg>
<bofh> egg|zzz|egg: thank
<bofh> I mean EBNF is useful.
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: also there's a ⩴
<egg|zzz|egg> !u ⩴
<Qboid> U+2A74 DOUBLE COLON EQUAL (⩴)
<bofh> oh, that's legit useful (compatibility decomp to := I take it?)
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<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: to ::= (http://minaret.info/test/normalize.msp)
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: argh I forgot to tweet about the Clifford release
<bofh> ahh. also oops.
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: tbh I'm not sure what to mention https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/wiki/Change-Log#clifford
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<kmath> <eggleroy> 🌑Clifford, the new release of Principia, is out. Correct sign in the error term of double-precision differences of… https://t.co/ItMG0V0Zww
<egg|zzz|egg> TelescopicRaptor: two-ell telescope?
<egg|zzz|egg> huh, it's barrelshifter's birthday
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: https://twitter.com/GitHubIT's retweeting of any tweet that contains a github link and the word "it" is daft >_>
<egg|zzz|egg> wait it even retweets things without the word it? does it pick up the substrict "it" in github?
<egg|zzz|egg> s/ict/ing
<Qboid> egg|zzz|egg meant to say: wait it even retweets things without the word it? does it pick up the substring "it" in github?
<egg|zzz|egg> ah no it just retweets anything with a github link in it, per the bio
<egg|zzz|egg> who thought that was a good idea
<egg|zzz|egg> I know that prof, he's at ETHZ https://twitter.com/barrelshifter/status/953538629447557121
<kmath> <barrelshifter> basically the jessica paquette interpretation of algorithmics for hard problems by juraj hromkovic
<TelescopicRaptor> egg|zzz|egg: 0.8 m.
<egg|zzz|egg> TelescopicRaptor: what are you telescoping?
<bofh> egg|zzz|egg: LOL I think that's even worse than the xmpp.jp bot
<awang> Has anyone here heard of Judy arrays?
<TelescopicRaptor> egg|zzz|egg: did BVRI flats, will do a K2 followup, currently being given M1 for practice.
* egg|zzz|egg gives TelescopicRaptor a BVRI apartment
<awang> !wpn -add:wpn array
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