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<mofh>
!u l1r_l2
<galois>
l: U+006c LATIN SMALL LETTER L
<galois>
1: U+0031 DIGIT ONE
<galois>
r: U+0072 LATIN SMALL LETTER R
<galois>
_: U+005f LOW LINE
<galois>
l: U+006c LATIN SMALL LETTER L
<galois>
2: U+0032 DIGIT TWO
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<_whitenotifier-d13c>
[Principia] eggrobin commented on issue #2643: Game Crashes When Launching New Game (RO-RP-0) - https://git.io/JJO5R
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<_whitenotifier-d13c>
[Principia] WC12366 opened issue #2645: Why more celestials won't cause performance problem - https://git.io/JJONZ
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<_whitenotifier-d13c>
[Principia] pleroy commented on issue #2645: Why more celestials won't cause performance problem - https://git.io/JJOxi
<_whitenotifier-d13c>
[Principia] pleroy closed issue #2645: Why more celestials won't cause performance problem - https://git.io/JJONZ
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<SilverFox>
I want yall to open your brains and conceptualize for me a negative length video
<SilverFox>
how does that work
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<SnoopJeDi>
suggests to me that the "length" is not in fact a length but measuring an offset of some kind
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<SilverFox>
length is a scalar isn't it, and can't be negative cause it's just positive in the other direction, so no idea how it would work, if anything could be conceptualized for it
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<whitequark>
it's just a video played in reverse
<e_14159>
I'd go the other way and say that length of a video is basically cardinality of a set of frames
<whitequark>
ends before it starts
<whitequark>
e_14159: what's the length of a slideshow
<SnoopJeDi>
memento.avi
<e_14159>
whitequark: About two minutes per slide ;-)
<raptop>
!8 Are infection rates comparable to early march low enough to justify opening up?
<galois>
raptop: yes
* raptop
stabs galois wit a spontoon
<SnoopJeDi>
!8 is policy being decided on the basis of public health data?
<galois>
SnoopJeDi: yes
* SnoopJeDi
skeptical
<raptop>
Hey, the goal of the policy wasn't stated
<SnoopJeDi>
I was trying to get the bot to alley-oop me into "what is being justified"
<SnoopJeDi>
certainly ain't anything to do with not getting people killed
* raptop
expects that we'll break 150k officially by august 1st
<raptop>
!how many deaths today
<galois>
raptop: 854 deaths
<mlbaker>
150k what?
<SnoopJeDi>
deaths
<mlbaker>
oh in the US
<raptop>
yeah
<whitequark>
!how many days do i still have to suffer
<galois>
whitequark: 578 days
<mlbaker>
!how many days do i still have to suffer
<galois>
mlbaker: 123 days
<mlbaker>
is this just a random integer lol
<whitequark>
mlbaker: enjoy your counter
<raptop>
Yes, it's random
<e_14159>
!how many days do i still have to suffer
<galois>
e_14159: 272 days
<e_14159>
Well, this clearly is wrong. It's 16 working days, or 23 real days.
<raptop>
Then you get a PhD?
<raptop>
"In the U.S., about 28% of the population of 105 million became infected, and 500,000 to 850,000 died (0.48 to 0.81 percent of the population).[120][121][122]"
<raptop>
hrm
<SnoopJeDi>
mlbaker, yes, it's a random integer in [0, 1000)
<SnoopJeDi>
god only knows why I didn't use random.randint() though, probably just foolishness
<mlbaker>
yeah, the uniform distribution on Z would have been a lot better
<e_14159>
raptop: Last working day at my institute. I'll still have to write my thesis, though.
<SnoopJeDi>
should be `bot.reply(f"{random.randint(LO, HI)}{thing}")` although I know f-strings were verboten when I first started messing with Sopel, because I was using Python 3.5
<SnoopJeDi>
but there's just no excuse for legacy formatting :|
<whitequark>
can you use an f-string to write an int in hex or binary yet?
<SnoopJeDi>
whitequark, AFAIK that's always been possible with them, e.g. `f"{42:x}"` -> '2a' and `f"{42:b}"` -> '101010'
<SnoopJeDi>
or do you mean the other way around
<whitequark>
wtf i had no idea
<whitequark>
... this changes everything holy shit
<whitequark>
wow
<SnoopJeDi>
I like the output of bin() a little better because it adds 0b
<whitequark>
i have to rewrite a few KLOC of logging code
<whitequark>
SnoopJeDi: >>> f"{42:#b}"
<whitequark>
'0b101010'
<SnoopJeDi>
oh right
<SnoopJeDi>
neat
<SnoopJeDi>
I hope the rewrite is the good sort >_>
<SnoopJeDi>
huh, # isn't included on pyformat.info, that's a shame.
<SnoopJeDi>
but glad we swapped a trick here, #x will be very nice to have
<SnoopJeDi>
it is a little more direct I guess because you go straight to the FORMAT_VALUE instruction, which will call PyObject_Format() internally.
<SnoopJeDi>
Not sure the attribute lookup is all that expensive on strings but eliding the call in the runtime is nice I guess? I don't know enough about how this ends up mattering
<SnoopJeDi>
but it's definitely meant to be a drop-in replacement, I just never knew about #'s behavior in part because I don't like the official docs for some reason
<whitequark>
oh huh
<whitequark>
i see
<SnoopJeDi>
pyformat.info might be to blame since I'm lazy
<SnoopJeDi>
and usually just want $the_thing when I'm referring to something like that
<SnoopJeDi>
being able to shove any expr in there is very nice though
<whitequark>
the way quoting is handled is awkward
<_whitenotifier-d13c>
[Principia] pleroy opened pull request #2646: Spectrum extraction using FFT - https://git.io/JJ3LC
<SnoopJeDi>
{{ and }} ?
<whitequark>
arguably ruby did the right thing there
<whitequark>
the previous example happens to be valid for the wrong reason
<SnoopJeDi>
right, I'd normally spell that f'{""}' but I assume you mean more complex examples
<whitequark>
it's kind of obnoxious to have to do that
<whitequark>
plus i *did* need nested f-strings a few times
<SnoopJeDi>
yea. what does ruby do instead of \" ?
<whitequark>
it has a stack in the lexer
<whitequark>
unlike *other* gross things ruby does, this one actually does not cause issues
<SnoopJeDi>
even a broken clock etc.
<whitequark>
i think even normal lex supports it
<SnoopJeDi>
that's not fair of me to say, I know so little ruby
<whitequark>
ruby isn't a broken clock
<whitequark>
it consistently points in the wrong direction
<SnoopJeDi>
but I came into contact with its arguments once and that was enough to put me off it a bit
<whitequark>
it's just that some of the things it does, in practice, cause far more problems than the others
<whitequark>
for example the things it uses to decide whether / is division or start of a regex are downright insane
<SnoopJeDi>
"The object-oriented language seemed very promising. I knew Python then. But I didn't like it, because I didn't think it was a true object-oriented language"
<SnoopJeDi>
I uh, hmm...
* raptop
eyes various definition/term issues in a paper some of the people in their research group are working on
<raptop>
Papers need linters to make sure all used variables are defined, and all defined variables are used