UmbralRaptor changed the topic of #kspacademia to: https://gist.github.com/pdn4kd/164b9b85435d87afbec0c3a7e69d3e6d | Dogs are cats. Spiders are cat interferometers. | Космизм сегодня! | Document well, for tomorrow you may get mauled by a ネコバス. | <UmbralRaptor> egg|nomz|egg: generally if your eyes are dewing over, that's not the weather. | <ferram4> I shall beat my problems to death with an engineer. | We can haz pdf
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<mofh> https://mobile.twitter.com/endlesswario/status/1281733999501565952 halp why is "oh shimt penicillin" so hilarious
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* raptop feels eggstra doomed
<egg|anbo|egg_> !u ᶿ
<galois> ᶿ: U+1dbf MODIFIER LETTER SMALL THETA
<egg|anbo|egg_> raptop: meow?
<egg|anbo|egg_> !wpn whitequark
* galois gives whitequark a cycle with a sphere attachment
<egg|anbo|egg_> !u θ
<galois> θ: U+03b8 GREEK SMALL LETTER THETA
<egg|anbo|egg_> smol theta
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<SilverFox> mofh, that is pretty funny, cheemz is a great meme
<raptop> egg|anbo|egg_: from mofh's meme
<_whitenotifier-d13c> [Principia] eggrobin reviewed pull request #2637 commit - https://git.io/JJOBc
<_whitenotifier-d13c> [Principia] eggrobin reviewed pull request #2637 commit - https://git.io/JJOBC
<_whitenotifier-d13c> [Principia] eggrobin labeled pull request #2637: A rough implementation of FFT - https://git.io/JJY6d
<egg|anbo|egg_> going to try C/2020 F3 again with minimal gain rather than maximal gain
<egg|anbo|egg_> maybe I can have long exposures that don’t look like shit on 16 bits, instead of failing to stack hundreds of short 16-bit images
<raptop> infinite read noise
<mofh> ooh
<whitequark> raptop: can you tre
<whitequark> er
<whitequark> nvm
* raptop confused chirping
<raptop> !8 Is duo trying to crack some eggs?
<galois> raptop: no
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<mofh> !u l1r_l2
<galois> l: U+006c LATIN SMALL LETTER L
<galois> 1: U+0031 DIGIT ONE
<galois> r: U+0072 LATIN SMALL LETTER R
<galois> _: U+005f LOW LINE
<galois> l: U+006c LATIN SMALL LETTER L
<galois> 2: U+0032 DIGIT TWO
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<_whitenotifier-d13c> [Principia] eggrobin commented on issue #2643: Game Crashes When Launching New Game (RO-RP-0) - https://git.io/JJO5R
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<_whitenotifier-d13c> [Principia] WC12366 opened issue #2645: Why more celestials won't cause performance problem - https://git.io/JJONZ
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<_whitenotifier-d13c> [Principia] pleroy commented on issue #2645: Why more celestials won't cause performance problem - https://git.io/JJOxi
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<SilverFox> I want yall to open your brains and conceptualize for me a negative length video
<SilverFox> how does that work
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<SnoopJeDi> suggests to me that the "length" is not in fact a length but measuring an offset of some kind
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<SilverFox> length is a scalar isn't it, and can't be negative cause it's just positive in the other direction, so no idea how it would work, if anything could be conceptualized for it
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<whitequark> it's just a video played in reverse
<e_14159> I'd go the other way and say that length of a video is basically cardinality of a set of frames
<whitequark> ends before it starts
<whitequark> e_14159: what's the length of a slideshow
<SnoopJeDi> memento.avi
<e_14159> whitequark: About two minutes per slide ;-)
<SnoopJeDi> +1
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<raptop> loud construction noises are loud
<_whitenotifier-d13c> [Principia] pleroy commented on issue #2640: Crash during flight planning - https://git.io/JJ3JM
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<SnoopJeDi> !how loud
<galois> SnoopJeDi: 883 louds
<_whitenotifier-d13c> [Principia] pleroy commented on issue #2641: Crash when staging/decoupling - https://git.io/JJ3JA
<SnoopJeDi> that seems excessive
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<_whitenotifier-d13c> [Principia] pleroy 57d80f5 - A skeleton.
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<raptop> !8 Are infection rates comparable to early march low enough to justify opening up?
<galois> raptop: yes
* raptop stabs galois wit a spontoon
<SnoopJeDi> !8 is policy being decided on the basis of public health data?
<galois> SnoopJeDi: yes
* SnoopJeDi skeptical
<raptop> Hey, the goal of the policy wasn't stated
<SnoopJeDi> I was trying to get the bot to alley-oop me into "what is being justified"
<SnoopJeDi> certainly ain't anything to do with not getting people killed
* raptop expects that we'll break 150k officially by august 1st
<raptop> !how many deaths today
<galois> raptop: 854 deaths
<mlbaker> 150k what?
<SnoopJeDi> deaths
<mlbaker> oh in the US
<raptop> yeah
<whitequark> !how many days do i still have to suffer
<galois> whitequark: 578 days
<mlbaker> !how many days do i still have to suffer
<galois> mlbaker: 123 days
<mlbaker> is this just a random integer lol
<whitequark> mlbaker: enjoy your counter
<raptop> Yes, it's random
<e_14159> !how many days do i still have to suffer
<galois> e_14159: 272 days
<e_14159> Well, this clearly is wrong. It's 16 working days, or 23 real days.
<raptop> Then you get a PhD?
<raptop> "In the U.S., about 28% of the population of 105 million became infected, and 500,000 to 850,000 died (0.48 to 0.81 percent of the population).[120][121][122]"
<raptop> hrm
<SnoopJeDi> mlbaker, yes, it's a random integer in [0, 1000)
<SnoopJeDi> god only knows why I didn't use random.randint() though, probably just foolishness
<mlbaker> yeah, the uniform distribution on Z would have been a lot better
<SnoopJeDi> `bot.reply("%i%s" % (int(random.random() * 1000), thing))` eeeeewww
<e_14159> raptop: Last working day at my institute. I'll still have to write my thesis, though.
<SnoopJeDi> should be `bot.reply(f"{random.randint(LO, HI)}{thing}")` although I know f-strings were verboten when I first started messing with Sopel, because I was using Python 3.5
<SnoopJeDi> but there's just no excuse for legacy formatting :|
<whitequark> can you use an f-string to write an int in hex or binary yet?
<SnoopJeDi> whitequark, AFAIK that's always been possible with them, e.g. `f"{42:x}"` -> '2a' and `f"{42:b}"` -> '101010'
<SnoopJeDi> or do you mean the other way around
<whitequark> wtf i had no idea
<whitequark> ... this changes everything holy shit
<whitequark> wow
<SnoopJeDi> I like the output of bin() a little better because it adds 0b
<whitequark> i have to rewrite a few KLOC of logging code
<whitequark> SnoopJeDi: >>> f"{42:#b}"
<whitequark> '0b101010'
<SnoopJeDi> oh right
<SnoopJeDi> neat
<SnoopJeDi> I hope the rewrite is the good sort >_>
<SnoopJeDi> huh, # isn't included on pyformat.info, that's a shame.
<SnoopJeDi> but glad we swapped a trick here, #x will be very nice to have
<whitequark> SnoopJeDi: it's the same thing as format()
<whitequark> i think it's hooked up to __format__ internally or something
<whitequark> so you can use everything you could use in "{...}".format
<SnoopJeDi> yes the specification minilanguage is the same
<SnoopJeDi> it is a little more direct I guess because you go straight to the FORMAT_VALUE instruction, which will call PyObject_Format() internally.
<SnoopJeDi> Not sure the attribute lookup is all that expensive on strings but eliding the call in the runtime is nice I guess? I don't know enough about how this ends up mattering
<SnoopJeDi> but it's definitely meant to be a drop-in replacement, I just never knew about #'s behavior in part because I don't like the official docs for some reason
<whitequark> oh huh
<whitequark> i see
<SnoopJeDi> pyformat.info might be to blame since I'm lazy
<SnoopJeDi> and usually just want $the_thing when I'm referring to something like that
<SnoopJeDi> being able to shove any expr in there is very nice though
<whitequark> the way quoting is handled is awkward
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<SnoopJeDi> {{ and }} ?
<whitequark> arguably ruby did the right thing there
<whitequark> no
<whitequark> in f-strings
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<SnoopJeDi> not sure what you mean then, just inserting " or '?
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<whitequark> f"{""}" is invalid
<whitequark> well
<whitequark> f"{"a"}" is invalid
<whitequark> the previous example happens to be valid for the wrong reason
<SnoopJeDi> right, I'd normally spell that f'{""}' but I assume you mean more complex examples
<whitequark> it's kind of obnoxious to have to do that
<whitequark> plus i *did* need nested f-strings a few times
<SnoopJeDi> yea. what does ruby do instead of \" ?
<whitequark> it has a stack in the lexer
<whitequark> unlike *other* gross things ruby does, this one actually does not cause issues
<SnoopJeDi> even a broken clock etc.
<whitequark> i think even normal lex supports it
<SnoopJeDi> that's not fair of me to say, I know so little ruby
<whitequark> ruby isn't a broken clock
<whitequark> it consistently points in the wrong direction
<SnoopJeDi> but I came into contact with its arguments once and that was enough to put me off it a bit
<whitequark> it's just that some of the things it does, in practice, cause far more problems than the others
<whitequark> for example the things it uses to decide whether / is division or start of a regex are downright insane
<SnoopJeDi> "The object-oriented language seemed very promising. I knew Python then. But I didn't like it, because I didn't think it was a true object-oriented language"
<SnoopJeDi> I uh, hmm...
* raptop eyes various definition/term issues in a paper some of the people in their research group are working on
<raptop> Papers need linters to make sure all used variables are defined, and all defined variables are used
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<raptop> !wa 16000/365
<raptop> !wa 16000/180
<raptop> feh
<SnoopJeDi> !c 16000/365
<galois> SnoopJeDi: 43.83561644
<SnoopJeDi> I think the vendored wa plugin drifted out of sync with the actual API and I disabled it or something
<raptop> Depending on how it's measured, the campus telescope apparently costs $50 - 100/day
<raptop> ah
<raptop> ($16k/year budget)
<SnoopJeDi> pretty good!
<SnoopJeDi> or well, it seems that way. I wouldn't know
<raptop> I'm not clear on exactly how that's allocated, mostly to observatory director's salary?
<raptop> Students doing research observing aren't included in that budget (aside from replacing stuff if we break it)
<SnoopJeDi> makes sense that you'd exclude that from ops
<SnoopJeDi> although if it's all for a director maybe a bunch of other stuff is being excluded heh
<raptop> In principle, this information should be public
* raptop ponders
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<raptop> bleh, out* of food, but I don't want to go shopping and cooking
<raptop> *specifically all fresh fruits/vegetables, bread, yogurt, and anything frozen
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<_whitenotifier-d13c> [Principia] pleroy closed pull request #2646: Spectrum extraction using FFT - https://git.io/JJ3LC
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<_whitenotifier-d13c> [Principia] pleroy 94b61a8 - Power spectrum.
<_whitenotifier-d13c> [Principia] pleroy 366183a - Mode analysis.
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<_whitenotifier-d13c> [Principia] WC12366 commented on issue #2645: Why more celestials won't cause performance problem - https://git.io/JJ3CL
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