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<raptop>
...does it include credit score or SSN equivalents?
<egg|laptop|egg>
whitequark: that basically is doing some work
<egg|laptop|egg>
... that sentence needs some punctuation, too. that « basically » is doing some work.
<whitequark>
egg|laptop|egg: thought so
<whitequark>
oh
<egg|laptop|egg>
what that line says is that the decree that allows mentioning political opinions, syndical membership, or health data in intelligence files has not been found illegal.
<egg|laptop|egg>
rather s/that line/the title of that article/
<egg|laptop|egg>
skimming through the article, this is specific to three intelligence files with silly acronyms that mean: prevention of attacks on public safety, management of information and prevention of attacks on public safety, administrative inquiries linked to public safety (one from the police, one from the gendarmes because France has two fully redundant polices, one for recruiting public workers in sensitive positions)
<egg|laptop|egg>
the first two files have entries for ~60k people (so that would be 1 permille of the population).
<galois>
title: Décret n° 2020-1511 du 2 décembre 2020 modifiant les dispositions du code de la sécurité intérieure relatives au traitement de données à caractère personnel dénommé « Prévention des atteintes à la sécurité publique » - Légifrance
<egg|laptop|egg>
it is interesting that the broadening of scope seems very focused on counterterrorism/national security things (targeting the territory/institutions, fundamental interests of the nation, etc.)
<egg|laptop|egg>
considering, as the article in le Parisien points out, that the files were initially about hooligans & violent protesters, this is somewhat in the reverse direction of what you would expect from scope creep
* raptop
has negative trust in counterterrorism legislation being used entirely (or even primarily) for that purpose
<SnoopJ>
even if it's the guaranteed outcome it's pretty bad
<egg|laptop|egg>
raptop: yes but that is my point, here it was for another purpose initially
<galois>
title: Article R236-13 - Code de la sécurité intérieure - Légifrance
<SnoopJ>
thermalized politics
<egg|laptop|egg>
the last line (which remains) is notable though, you are not allowed to use this data to select by it
<egg|laptop|egg>
i.e. you could say « this violent protester glued posters for this trotskyist union », now you can say « this violent protester is a member of this trotskyist union », but you are not allowed to get a list of violent protesters who are a member of this trotskyist union
<egg|laptop|egg>
(OK I guess there is only one major trotskyist union, it is the trotskyist parties that are aplenty)
<egg|laptop|egg>
whitequark: so yes it is a potentially concerning broadening of what can be recorded in pre-existing files, but these files do not contain « basically everyone », and also the scope is broadening in the reverse direction of what might be expected (metaphorically, the file of jaywalkers can now contain arsonists)