TheKosmonaut changed the topic of #kspmodders to: Welcome to #kspcovfefe | <Majiir> egg is pretty much just a chickenfetus until you start talking about floating point | Upon being elected Operator from 1:11:03AM to 1:11:19AM, GlassYuri immortalized his term with these words: “Do I have to give a fucking speech now?"
kronal_ has joined #kspmodders
kronal has quit [Ping timeout: 200 seconds]
xEvilReeperx has joined #kspmodders
oeuf has joined #kspmodders
egg has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by oeuf))]
oeuf is now known as egg
<SilverFox>
Greys, what game which is an fps did you say you have a secret spot in a cabin in which you set up a turret and hide in a corner and the setup works like, every time?
<SilverFox>
because said game was a charity event, and the quirk of the charity event was that everyone playing would be naked, and I was got there because we go stuck on a roadtrip through this town and there's an apartment building my dad used to live in and it had a very weird setup and we got stuck in it and ended up participating in this event. Said event is like.. CS:GO, but different, it's like all the fps combined.
<SilverFox>
you had a turret setup and I just rushed into that fuckin shed you were in and knifed you and you died, and then I woke up with the feeling of going onto irc to tell you "suck it"
<SilverFox>
its a really neat game, im going back in
kronal_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
kronal has joined #kspmodders
icefire has quit [Read error: -0x1: UNKNOWN ERROR CODE (0001)]
bsq has joined #kspmodders
kronal_ has joined #kspmodders
kronal has quit [Ping timeout: 201 seconds]
Supernovy has joined #kspmodders
Raidernick has quit [Ping timeout: 204 seconds]
Wetmelon has joined #kspmodders
egg is now known as egg|zzz|egg
Raidernick has joined #kspmodders
<G-Mobile>
Ugh
<G-Mobile>
They did the thing
<G-Mobile>
Fuck you ups
<G-Mobile>
I didnt not pay amazon to pay you to deliver my package to the post office.
Hyratel_ has joined #kspmodders
StatutoryApe is now known as }
<Hyratel_>
Greys, what do you mean 'judge this'? boob plate, no shoulder protection, no gambeson, no undertunic, her feet are broken, hair's in her face
bsq has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
<SilverFox>
TheKosmonaut, I just saw this character that looked exactly like ni, but the difference was that the beginning of each stroke was kinda hooked, so the beginning was lifted in a sort of way. Is this another character entirely, or just handwriting?
<lpghatguy>
hot take: Time is the best album by ELO, hands-down
<kmath>
YouTube - 30 minutes of amazingly dank anime memes!
<lpghatguy>
this is horrible
<lpghatguy>
why did you do this to me
<SilverFox>
mate you feel bad for yourself? I've watched all of them
<SilverFox>
GET ON MY LEVEL
<lpghatguy>
did your rift arrive yet
<SilverFox>
monday
<lpghatguy>
ayy
<SilverFox>
3 more days
<lpghatguy>
I'd be playing right now but my asthma has been flaring up too badly these past couple days
<SilverFox>
got the displayport hdmi adapter today tho
<SilverFox>
get an inhaler attachement for the rift
<darklight>
That is because sf is a normie
<SilverFox>
>normie
<SilverFox>
>sitting here in pepe pose
<SilverFox>
mkay
<lpghatguy>
I figured out how to use my inhaler with the rift on, but it doesn't help enough to stay active
<darklight>
Maybe poop was a bit unfair. Just a whole heap of clips like this https://youtu.be/wKaaszkJxBg - they'll take audio from somewhere else and either animate it or use clips
<kmath>
YouTube - Discord and Spike (Rick and Morty)
<G-Mobile>
darklight: do you know of any ... Fuck youvkryboard
<darklight>
sf, not the onion, but apparently it wasn't used in the trial
<darklight>
Headlines gonna headline
<G-Mobile>
Gboard keeps crashing, it stipp functions, but doesnt render new frames
<darklight>
Greys tell me about it
<darklight>
It was good. was.
<G-Mobile>
So darklight, do you know of any 55ish gallon barrela, that are plastic, and have mostly straight walls
<G-Mobile>
The normap style is slightly curved from top to bottom
<darklight>
Switch to samsung keyboard or restart your phone
<G-Mobile>
Fuck samsung
<darklight>
I know
<G-Mobile>
So, barrel
<darklight>
But its what I do now that googles competence levels have hit.. (your most disliked politician here) levels
<G-Mobile>
Btw you can just force stop it
<G-Mobile>
Rebooting is almost never required
* VITAS
pops up behind G-Mobile and makes faces
<darklight>
Plastic ones? no. Also I assume you mean 44 gallon, which we call 205L :P
<G-Mobile>
No such thing
<G-Mobile>
35, 55
<darklight>
It used to crash amd fix itself, now it doesn't even do that...
<darklight>
;wa 205L to gallons
<kmath>
darklight: convert 205 L (liters) to gallons: 54.16 gallons
<darklight>
Ah
<G-Mobile>
I won!
<darklight>
Not sure where I got 44 from
<G-Mobile>
NZ
<darklight>
;wa 205L to imperial gallons
<kmath>
darklight: convert 205 L (liters) to UK gallons: 45.09 UK gal (UK gallons)
<VITAS>
darklighthow would you go about finding similar sets of values to one you have?
<darklight>
Greys stop using shitty units
<VITAS>
ive mesurements of intensety at different wavelength
<darklight>
VITAS similar sets of values?
<VITAS>
and thos mesurements have to be compared to other mesurements in different enviroments
<VITAS>
but not neccesarily the exact same wavelentgh
<G-Mobile>
Its not a unit it's a unit
<darklight>
Err, I would bin and normalise, than a simple difference for the bins?
<VITAS>
so e.g.: 350nm 0.0323434 253nm 0.023454
<darklight>
Not sure what you are trying to measure/match
<G-Mobile>
55 gallon has as much to do with 55 gallons as to as a the population of an ant farm in decimal
<VITAS>
and i want to look in a pool of similar datasets for the ones that match within a threshhold
<G-Mobile>
They're neither 55 gallons nor 205L, but thats it's name
<VITAS>
in other words: ive a line chart and i want to check other line charts if theyre similar
<G-Mobile>
You should know better than dispute marketing terminology with me
<darklight>
Perhaps bin the sets (like group every measurement in a range of 10nm or whatever), and get an average reading for that wavelength bin, then do a absolute difference for each set?
<darklight>
My brain is kinda farting as I don't understand the input format
<VITAS>
what this is about: ive to write a software for fluorocesent spectrometry
<darklight>
But I assume its a good first step?
<darklight>
I know you where in some open spectrometer project :P
<VITAS>
where people measure refelctiveness of stuff at different wavelength
<VITAS>
and want to comapre their mesurements to find other datasets that are "like" theirs
<darklight>
Thats a ballpark way I can think of anyway
<VITAS>
yes i was thinking to norm them somehow by calculating fixed wavelength
<VITAS>
but then the first problem is: how doi i interpolate best?
<G-Mobile>
I do know that there are at least four kinds of HDPE 55gal. drums with two profiles and two head styles, as well as some minor variance in heads, but I need one thats mostly straight walled
<VITAS>
e.g. just average between points
<G-Mobile>
Straight enough to run a piano hinge most of the length
<darklight>
The other way is to generate some type of curve and do an area difference (or rule out curves that have datapoints too far away from the set)
<VITAS>
or if the wavelenth is closer to one point it makes up more % of the average?
<darklight>
Imma draw for a sec
<VITAS>
so e.g. ive 350nm and 500nm and i want to calc 400nm
<VITAS>
then its closer to 350nm
<VITAS>
so it should play alarger role
<VITAS>
in calculating the average
<VITAS>
and then theres trajectory
<G-Mobile>
The 35gal drum would probably be straight enough, but its dimmensions are too small
<VITAS>
so its like beziere curves
<VITAS>
if it has a steep parable the outcome should be different
<darklight>
Give me a sec to draw :P
<VITAS>
ok
<G-Mobile>
Hah
<G-Mobile>
A 210L might be ideap
<VITAS>
in other news: scott made a video about installing some ksp mod im always excited to see stuff i made on popular videos (in this case he was dl something from spacedock but sadly didnt mention that it was spacedock)
<G-Mobile>
The obvious example of binning is processors, intel & etc make one die, and statistically they comebout better or worse, the better ones get clocked higher and have different features added or removed, then are sold at varying pricepoints
<VITAS>
so a datapoint can be 354nm in one textfile
<darklight>
Like if you do a second scan, will it be similar?
<VITAS>
and 357nm in another
<VITAS>
so i think ive to first calculate fixed intervals for all of them
<VITAS>
like 350nm
<G-Mobile>
AMD used to have 3 core processors, which were 4 core dies where 1 processor didnt function well enough so they turned it off
Wetmelon has joined #kspmodders
<VITAS>
those files are provided by different people
<VITAS>
for different experiments
<VITAS>
but what they want is to find similar experiments
<darklight>
I'd be doing area difference, it's not hard to work out area between y=x*0.01+5 and y=x*0.03 + 4.5
<G-Mobile>
Some models it was possibpe to reactivate the fourth core and if you were lucky it'd be acceptibpe
<VITAS>
like if they mesured something at the upper part of an river they want to check if someone checked the lower part and if its similar
<VITAS>
hmm interresting
<darklight>
To get those straight lines for calculating, it's just xconstant=y2-y1/distance + y1
<VITAS>
another problem would be: what similareties are those people looking for?
<VITAS>
overall average ?
<VITAS>
individual points?
<darklight>
Just basic calculus
<VITAS>
beginning or end?
<G-Mobile>
oh hey, without touchpal my bluetooth keyboard doesn't make everything flicker anymore
<darklight>
I get a bit mathy for a sec
<VITAS>
please do
Wetmelon has quit [Ping timeout: 200 seconds]
<VITAS>
what i would have done is do avg(mesurement1) -threashhold < avg(mesurement2) AND avg(mesurement1) +threashhold > avg(mesurement2)
<VITAS>
mesurement 1 and 2 complete experiments
<VITAS>
or i would have done a check on each wavelength
<VITAS>
like is there another 350nm mesurement that is within a certain range?
<VITAS>
and if its positive for all comapirsons ive a winner
<G-Mobile>
what do you think about 1x 2500VA 1800W rackmount UPS, each running 4 lead acid batteries; unknown condition, 50$
<G-Mobile>
2x*
<G-Mobile>
compaq branded
<SilverFox>
that sounds pretty good
<G-Mobile>
what if I say there's apparent fluid damage to the top of one of the units
<SilverFox>
ooooh
<G-Mobile>
could be battery acid damage, could be water deposits
<SilverFox>
can you contact the seller to figure it out?
<G-Mobile>
it's closer to detroit, and they got it from a dead friend, so even if they knew I can't trust any sort of truth
<SilverFox>
itd suck to waste 50$
<SilverFox>
but if you could repair it for cheap it'd be worth it
<VITAS>
but i allready got it on your first drawing :)
<darklight>
It's just an approach, if your metric is "distance between the lines at a minimum" then it's pretty easy to solve
<darklight>
As for bezier curves? Fuck that shit :3
* VITAS
fucks off to watch some videos because he remembered that its weekend :D
<VITAS>
thx for the extensive explanation
<darklight>
Be careful though, math and I don't really mix
<darklight>
I'm sure egg will yell at me for one of those 3 pics :P
<darklight>
You might even find you don't need to do calculus, the easy way is to use the slope formulas and calculate the difference at every single nm and spit that out as a number :P
<darklight>
Same type of thing, but much easier to program
<lpghatguy>
yep, your high-power apps will run on the 2.45 GHz processor, and low-power stuff switches to the other one
<lpghatguy>
used to be two separate processors, maybe now it's one 8-core chip with separate clock speeds per core somehow
<G-Mobile>
And I bet the 1.9 can downclock further
<SilverFox>
I think that a 1.9 and 2.45 aren't that much different
<SilverFox>
500Mhz yes, but like
<SilverFox>
come on
<lpghatguy>
I'll take a 20% power use reduction
angavrilov||phone has joined #kspmodders
<SilverFox>
I'd totally downclock that to 1.7 or something
<G-Mobile>
Ah, it can downrez appspaces
<darklight>
I'd rather have a 4.2ghz cpu and let it sleep for half the time
<lpghatguy>
good ol' race-to-sleep architecture
<lpghatguy>
I think bursty power draw is tougher on your battery though
<SilverFox>
I dont think arm can do 4.2ghz
<darklight>
I thought we were talking pcs for a sec, didn't read back until just then
<G-Mobile>
So processor switching, underclocking, and resolution reduction
<G-Mobile>
Its a 2K screen that would do as well at 720, cool
angavrilov|phone has quit [Ping timeout: 204 seconds]
<SilverFox>
I just met someone who said that pastebin makes them uncomfortable
<GlassYuri>
use hastebin then
<SilverFox>
i dont think there'd be a difference
<GlassYuri>
then ask them why
<SilverFox>
I did
<lpghatguy>
pastebin makes me uncomfortable
<SilverFox>
get outta here
<lpghatguy>
hastebin's syntax detection sucks
<darklight>
Everyone knows the correct thing to do is paste the entire KSP.log in chat
<SilverFox>
hooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
<SilverFox>
please
<SilverFox>
PLEASE
<SilverFox>
tell me people dont do that
<lpghatguy>
isn't there a PTP file transfer protocol on top of IRC that you could use for your sketchy files?
<GlassYuri>
so while watching youtube videos of vehicles moving I noticed that I've become completely accustomed to left hand traffic
<darklight>
I've seen people try, esper kicks them after a bit
<GlassYuri>
I also have a valid drivers license that mostly applies to right hand countries
<darklight>
I tell people to dump on my ftp server as pastebin has a 500kb limit
<darklight>
Normally not a problem unless you have exception floods
<SilverFox>
GlassYuri, japan drives on the left?
<GlassYuri>
I also can't drive
<GlassYuri>
SilverFox, no, on the bottom
<SilverFox>
cool
<darklight>
We drive on the left here
<darklight>
One of the few countries that does it seems
<SilverFox>
wut
<SilverFox>
yall cucks
<lpghatguy>
but why
<GlassYuri>
darklight, japan, uk, stralia, india(?), hong kong, parts of south east asia
<GlassYuri>
supposedly by population left and right hand is about equal
<darklight>
Ah ok
<GlassYuri>
by number of countries right hand wins
<SilverFox>
the person who wont use pastebin says it's because "people will see it"
<GlassYuri>
don't have to set it to public, man
<SilverFox>
I know
<lpghatguy>
pastebin is such a cluttered site
<GlassYuri>
you only use public if you want to advertise for something illegal
<SilverFox>
you can't middle click the "new paste" button and it makes me ree
<darklight>
Speaking of driving, "The next major problem with GPS usage is that it is emasculating, and not just politically with its endless entreaties to “turn left.”"
<GlassYuri>
I wonder if a pastebin scraper would eventually find the entire codebase of some n00b game dev
<SilverFox>
probably
<SilverFox>
I did once
<lpghatguy>
there's so much fun random stuff in Untitled
<lpghatguy>
why would a company like this *ever* think it's okay to inject their stupid shit into my browser
<SilverFox>
>Magic the gathering
<SilverFox>
what deck you running?
<lpghatguy>
couple different ones
<lpghatguy>
in modern, grixis delver and GW company
<SilverFox>
like, what type of deck
<SilverFox>
way back when I got into it I ran poison
<SilverFox>
at least, wanted to
<lpghatguy>
those are the types of deck?
<SilverFox>
poison counters op
<lpghatguy>
the archetype at least
<SilverFox>
I have no idea what it is then
<lpghatguy>
Grixis Delver is a black-red-blue deck that plays the most efficient spells I can
<lpghatguy>
I try to stick a Delver of Secrets (one blue for a 3/2 flyer, essentially) while using all 1 and 2 mana removal and value spells
<SilverFox>
interesting
<lpghatguy>
GW company is a green-white deck that abuses Collected Company and other value-heavy creatures to beatdown
<darklight>
The real what the fuck is how do you get 1tb of data :(
<darklight>
I only have 100gb
<darklight>
And how do you use 900gb? stream netflix 24/7?
<lpghatguy>
4 people
<lpghatguy>
the latest DOOM patch was like 40 GB
<lpghatguy>
5 people now, oops, and we usually have 1-2 streaming netflix
<SilverFox>
Idk if I could ever do datacaps
* VITAS
is in the regon of TB/month not those puny GB
<VITAS>
:)
<VITAS>
+i
<darklight>
I'm pretty sure australia started the data cap bullshit
<lpghatguy>
I didn't have data caps back in Montana :(
<darklight>
But its ok, our old communications minister is now PM so he instantly axed GPON
<darklight>
Because 640kb/s ought to be enough for anyone!
<SilverFox>
reeeeeeeeeeeeee
<darklight>
SF kekistanis are oppressed, but in australia they are doubley oppressed by internet speeds
<lpghatguy>
why do people live there
<SilverFox>
idk
<lpghatguy>
is it really just people that no one else wants like I hear
<SilverFox>
too expensive to leave
<darklight>
"If we are snowflakes, then the weather forecast suggests a brutal snow blizzard in Kekistan very, very soon." and now we are getting threats of genocide from normies :'(
angavrilov|phone has joined #kspmodders
angavrilov||phone has quit [Ping timeout: 204 seconds]
<darklight>
Well, time to unsub from the whitehouse channel now that there is no more daily spice :(
<darklight>
"Subscribers for the last 30 days = 90, down 97.5%"
<darklight>
Burning plastic and smelling it is an interesting identification trick
<lpghatguy>
identifying... what?
<darklight>
"We do not want the nsas contrails turning our frogs gay"
<SilverFox>
amazon emailed me to tell me a 3d printer has gone on sale...by 96 cents
<darklight>
I think my sis will hold off before burning a whole pile of cash to make a 3d printer appear in its place
<darklight>
She wants a sealed cabinet so she can also print abs but she wants to print pla
<SilverFox>
a sealed cabinet is a win win
<SilverFox>
it helps both abs and pla prints
<SilverFox>
what would really help though, is a vacuum
<SilverFox>
no air currents to push the heat away from that first layer
<SilverFox>
and no air to take the heat
angavrilov||phone has joined #kspmodders
<SilverFox>
and no air to slow the motors
angavrilov|phone has quit [Ping timeout: 200 seconds]
<darklight>
I just witnessed the worst canadian impression ever
<kmath>
YouTube - Mandatory Drone registration for the UK (22 Jul, 2017)
<G-Mobile>
Weather is being weird
<G-Mobile>
Theres threeish storms travelling west to east across the lower half of michigan's lower half, except that they've split around detroit as if there were an invisible airfoil
VanDisaster has quit [Ping timeout: 201 seconds]
oeuf is now known as egg
<darklight>
Detroit is so bad even the storms don't want to touch it
<darklight>
"Storm wipes out detroit, causes 352 million dollars of improvement"
<SilverFox>
lol
<darklight>
"I mean, have you seen detroit"
<darklight>
I should stop picking on dems "I Mean, Have You Seen the Other Guys?"
<TheKosmonaut>
The USA could just do a cheeky border adjustment and say Detroit belongs to Canada
<TheKosmonaut>
What's Trudeau gonna do, jog around and smile like a dork?
<TheKosmonaut>
Ahh, maybe he'll kayak us into submission.
kronal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
kronal has joined #kspmodders
Supernovy has quit [Ping timeout: 186 seconds]
VanDisaster has joined #kspmodders
<SilverFox>
our economy would crash, I dont even think michigan is profitable
<SilverFox>
mainly because detroit is such a money sink
<SilverFox>
probably overestimating it
<SilverFox>
give us washington DC
<SilverFox>
that'd be great
<SilverFox>
we'd own the whitehouse
<RandomJeb>
you could just bulldoze detroit
<RandomJeb>
build a nice city there
<SilverFox>
where are you going to put all the people from detroit?
<RandomJeb>
the bulldozers will sort them out
<Greys>
darklight, the sad thing about detroit, is that it's so bad, a sufficiently large natural disaster could have impacts on the order of fukushima
<SilverFox>
one can only hope
<Greys>
there are NUMEROUS plots of land in the detroit area that are considered hazard sites
<Greys>
the kind of place where if anyone wanted to use the plot for anything, step one is to spend years of hazmat removal diging up all the structure, and having it disposed of in federally approved ways
<SilverFox>
how large is "sufficiently large" because that phrase means its size is infinite in both directions
<Greys>
some plots the ground itself has to be dug up 10 meters down
<Greys>
half a katrina
<SilverFox>
thats pretty sizable
<SilverFox>
wasnt katrina the largest that hit?
<Greys>
if we managed to have an earth quake, probably like a 4 or something
<RandomJeb>
clearly a waiver on federal law is required for this extreme case
<RandomJeb>
just pour a few billion tons of concrete on the rubble and start over
<SilverFox>
I figured she was a black and white fox
<SilverFox>
seeing as how colours in manga arent cannon
<RandomJeb>
does the other girl lose clothing as she takes damage?
<SilverFox>
probably
<Greys>
anyway, imagine one of these massive beach front plots with all the biohazard potential of an intentional terrorist attack got enough water on it to start leaking that into the lake
<RandomJeb>
we're bulldozing the lake too
<SilverFox>
bruh
<Greys>
that late touches canada
<SilverFox>
that is singlehandedly the most stupid thing you could do in this case
<SilverFox>
that is a massive source of fresh water
<SilverFox>
"fresh"
<RandomJeb>
once we're done bulldozing detroit and pouring concrete on it there wont be any potable water left
<RandomJeb>
also alex jones told me they're turning the frogs gay, not killing them
<SilverFox>
yeah
<Greys>
when flint tanked, things got so bad
<Greys>
imagine of like, the south half of los angelos suddenly became somalia
<RandomJeb>
isn't los angeles kinda somalia already?
<Greys>
no, it's the nice one
<SilverFox>
detroit is somalia
<Greys>
even detroit isn't somalia
<RandomJeb>
los angeles is the nice one?
<Greys>
somalia doesn't claim to have a government
<Greys>
there's los angeles and san diego
<RandomJeb>
that just means they are enlightened left leaning anarchists
<RandomJeb>
they're cool and edgy
<Greys>
one of the two is full of angry mexicans and cocaine
<SilverFox>
san diego is the mexican one
<Greys>
none of the three has any water
<SilverFox>
kek
<Greys>
so's this one time, michigan had trains
<Greys>
we still have trains but they're worse now
<SilverFox>
everything in michigan is worse now
<Greys>
a bunch of kids from a not entirely shit part of near detroit jumped on a train to be cooool
<Greys>
they ended up in flint
<Greys>
they were shot
<SilverFox>
nice
<SilverFox>
this is what happens when people get guns
<SilverFox>
they shoot people
<Greys>
oh yea, that's easy to prove with statistics
<SilverFox>
how many shootings are done with guns?
<SilverFox>
how many shootings would be done if noone had guns?
<Greys>
for each unit of time inwhich a person is in proximity to a firearm, there is a probability of them having access to it; for each unit time in which a firearm is accessible, there is a probability of an accidental discharge occuring
<SilverFox>
;wa how many shootings in canada
<kmath>
SilverFox: Wolfram couldn't understand your gibberish
<Greys>
for every accidental discharge that occurs in the proximity of every individual; that individual has a probability of being shot
<SilverFox>
fuck you you're gibberish
<Greys>
for every time that an individual is shot, there is a probability they will die
<Greys>
thus, having a gun in your home vastly increases the probability that anyone in or around the home will die
<Greys>
however, the probability of your home being broken into is fairly fixed for a given location, and actually reduces as a factor of household population
<SilverFox>
the amount of deaths due to firearms is more than any deaths for a cause of death in canada
<SilverFox>
with suicide being the highest at 10.1 per 100,000
<Greys>
unless you're fuckin wranglestar who'se gonna wake up in bed with a literal bear one out of 700 nights; ain't no argument that increases the safety of your home
<SilverFox>
firearms at 10.38 per 100,000
kronal_ has joined #kspmodders
<RandomJeb>
I live in the wild
<RandomJeb>
all the houses in our little woodland enclave has guns in them
<Greys>
does your wild contain deadly animals?
<SilverFox>
Greys, what about if we gave em guns from the time the amendment was created?
<RandomJeb>
my wild contains deadly everything
<Greys>
are you a stralian
<RandomJeb>
including animals
<RandomJeb>
no just an arctician
<RandomJeb>
in australia they have to contend with all sorts of poisons and heat as well, that shit is hardcore
kronal has quit [Ping timeout: 201 seconds]
<Greys>
SilverFox, you should try to solve for x with my "guns are a bad idea" formula
<SilverFox>
in the timeframe of 2009-2013 canada had 977 firearm deaths
<VITAS>
my wild contains merkel beat that
<Greys>
out of how many firearms?
<SilverFox>
uhhhhhhhhh
<SilverFox>
31 guns per 100 people
<RandomJeb>
this conversation just reminded me that we had that breivik guy hit a high score for lone gunman kills on this day some years ago
<SilverFox>
but most of us actually use it for real purposes, like hunting
<Greys>
;wa population of canada
<kmath>
Greys: Canada->population: 35.3 million people (world rank: 39th) (2014 estimate)
<Greys>
;c 35.3/100*31
<kmath>
Greys: 10.943
<SilverFox>
states has 310 million
<SilverFox>
guns
<VITAS>
;wa population of norway
<kmath>
VITAS: Norway->population: 5.02 million people (world rank: 118th) (2014 estimate)
<Greys>
;wa 11 million guns / 977 deaths
<kmath>
Greys: (11000000 Mesopotamian loads)/977 all countries, dependencies, and territories->annual deaths: 655 billion person Mesopotamian loads/yr (person Mesopotamian loads per year) (2001, 2006, 2008, and 2014 -- this crap is too long.
<VITAS>
;wa population of sweden
<kmath>
VITAS: Sweden->population: 9.6 million people (world rank: 90th) (2014 estimate)
<RandomJeb>
it was a big thing when norway hit 5 million
<VITAS>
;wa population of germany
<Greys>
what
<kmath>
VITAS: Germany->population: 81.6 million people (world rank: 16th) (2014 estimate)
<SilverFox>
oh, and 80% of firearm related deaths are suicides
<Greys>
wtf is this number
<RandomJeb>
mesopotamian loads?
<SilverFox>
;c 11000000 / 977
<kmath>
SilverFox: 11258.955987717503
<SilverFox>
guns per death
<Greys>
other way
<SilverFox>
that's the way you wanted it
<Greys>
yes well you're bot is wrong
<SilverFox>
not my bot
<Greys>
did I ask you?
<SilverFox>
did I ask you?
<Greys>
pikachu?
<SilverFox>
hey you
<SilverFox>
~c 977 / 11000000
<FoxBot9000>
SilverFox, 8.881818181818182E-5
<SilverFox>
that many deaths per gun
<SilverFox>
but also, 80% is suicide
<Greys>
that's actually I think a reasonable scale
<Greys>
;wa deaths by farm equipment
<kmath>
Greys: Wolfram couldn't understand your gibberish
<G-Mobile>
Do you hyperbaloid cooling towers would work at small scales?
<SilverFox>
make bong coolers
<SilverFox>
do you get charged for your water usage?
kronal has joined #kspmodders
<SilverFox>
I wonder how light I can get a UPS to be so I could mount it to the side of my desktop and use it when power goes out and for transporting downstairs since my room is small as fuck and vr roomscale takes some room
<SilverFox>
so downstairs has lots of room
<G-Mobile>
Answer the question
<SilverFox>
yet booting this computer is a bitch
<SilverFox>
idk what a hyperbaloid is
<G-Mobile>
Nuclear cooling towers
<SilverFox>
do you get charged for your water usage?
<G-Mobile>
Yes
<SilverFox>
well, that's gonna suck
<SilverFox>
you'd need a fully enclosed system
kronal_ has quit [Ping timeout: 186 seconds]
<G-Mobile>
But this would be closed cycle
<SilverFox>
im drawing a blank on nuclear cooling
<SilverFox>
is it just using coils?
<SilverFox>
and steam out to condense it and then the condensation gets pooled into another input and that goes back to heat source?
<G-Mobile>
Google it, the full scale system uses open cycle sprayers and droplet evaporation
<SilverFox>
what does the flare achieve, other than maximum pleasure?
<Greys>
venturi bernulli stuff to accelerate airflow via pressures and shit
<SilverFox>
figured
<SilverFox>
the throat causes a squeeze, making higher pressure
<Greys>
the hot thing would be just above the air inlet, and the air in contact, being hot, wants to go up
<SilverFox>
high pressure then goes up and cools as it expands
<Greys>
the throat causes that hot air to accellerate, creating a vacuum that pulls more air up
<Greys>
so purely by having hot stuff exposed to air, the air is made to want to cycle upwards in the tower quickly, which then draws air through at a high passive rate
<SilverFox>
closed-loop air cycle lul
kronal_ has joined #kspmodders
<Greys>
as well the tube creates an isolation between the air inlet and the air exhaust, so you get consistently cool air without mixing in exhaust
<SilverFox>
I just thought of close-looping the air part of the thingamabob
<Greys>
if you just set a radiator on a table there will be a lot of recycling
<G-Mobile>
The result of poorly intended mods interacting without consideration is creative mode, so why not just play creative
<SilverFox>
it lets you make a giant furnace you can smelt things in, and then you can mix and match tool parts to make your desired tool the way you want it as well
<G-Mobile>
They dont give you real mechanics to play with, they just make you feel powerful
<SilverFox>
apparently there's a thing called "Calculator Mod"
<SilverFox>
have no fucking clue what it does
<G-Mobile>
Look at thaumcraft 2
<G-Mobile>
That was a hell of a mod
<SilverFox>
dont like it
<SilverFox>
dont like magics
<G-Mobile>
Look at mystcraft
<SilverFox>
it was neat as fuck, but not my tast
<SilverFox>
mystcraft is also magics
<G-Mobile>
That added entirely new concepts
<G-Mobile>
Nope, myst is science
<SilverFox>
great, but I dont like magics
<G-Mobile>
Redstone is magic
<SilverFox>
no
<SilverFox>
its wires
<SilverFox>
its not some vi you sap from the air
<SilverFox>
and then golems
<SilverFox>
that do things
<SilverFox>
and the things you mine that just use up durability
<SilverFox>
essence or some shit
<SilverFox>
the calculator does crafting
<SilverFox>
ew
<G-Mobile>
My phone can irc and discord at the same time
<SilverFox>
you mean like, having the processes running?
<G-Mobile>
On screenvat the same time
<SilverFox>
oh
<SilverFox>
neat
kronal has quit [Read error: -0x1: UNKNOWN ERROR CODE (0001)]
kronal has joined #kspmodders
kronal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
<G-Mobile>
how much better are linear actuators than chain draggers
<SilverFox>
yes *thumbs up*
<G-Mobile>
I want to open and close my windows with piduinos, one window needs about 18 inches, two need about 24
<G-Mobile>
18" linear actuators range from 70$ to hundreds a hundreds
<G-Mobile>
I can probably open them with a chain loop on one side, mounted somewhere on the window, driven by a servo
<G-Mobile>
and that system will permit arbitrary length
<G-Mobile>
but I do need to get this did, there's potentially hundreds of dollars on the line
mike_ has joined #kspmodders
<mike_>
is there a config file where the planets are defined?
egg has joined #kspmodders
<G-Mobile>
No
egg has quit [Read error: -0x1: UNKNOWN ERROR CODE (0001)]
<G-Mobile>
(yes but its a compiled resource package and its against the ToS/EULA to touch it)
egg has joined #kspmodders
egg|afk|egg has quit [Ping timeout: 204 seconds]
oeuf has joined #kspmodders
uovo has joined #kspmodders
egg has quit [Ping timeout: 200 seconds]
<mike_>
so, best option is to pull it from CelestialBody in the API
oeuf has quit [Ping timeout: 200 seconds]
<mike_>
it’s been a while since i’ve done this, too. is there a good API reference somewhere?
<mike_>
i liked the annotated one in the wiki, but it seems to be 0.24 related
<G-Mobile>
Define pull
<mike_>
oh, so i wrote a plugin that sends data over a UDP connection to an iOS app
<G-Mobile>
You can play with that data within KSP's runtime as best as you can figure out to do, but extracting it from the game is no good
<mike_>
oh yeah, that’s what i mean. there’s an api call for OrbitalBody.GetName() for example
<G-Mobile>
You can only possess the stock assets that appear in the gamedata folder, everything else is only yours to play with when KSP brings it to the playground
<G-Mobile>
The in gane wikivstuff should be in gamedata
<G-Mobile>
Game
<mike_>
got it
<G-Mobile>
Also I doubt orbital parameters can be owned so that should be fine
<mike_>
what do you mean by owned?
<G-Mobile>
Squad owns jool, the literal assets, but orbital parameters are just a kind of coordinate
<G-Mobile>
It'd be like owning five
<mike_>
i guess. i bet they could argue that they own the specific set of data that produces the orbit of jool, though.
<mike_>
but if they wanted it to be private, they would not have exposed it in the api
<G-Mobile>
Its frequently impractical to restrict things
<G-Mobile>
They're not just restricting it from you, but elsewhere in thier code too
<G-Mobile>
Like if spielberg wanted to maintain total control over ET, and so had the character censored throughout the movie and surrounding media, it wouldnt function
kronal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
kronal has joined #kspmodders
<mike_>
is there still no way to reload dlls that are part of plugins?
<mike_>
short of relaunching KSP?
<G-Mobile>
Dlls are plugins, also no*
Supernovy has joined #kspmodders
<G-Mobile>
In order to reload you have to be able to unload, and the way ksp loads it just tosses everything together with no way to pull it apart
<mike_>
how do people debug? my version is probably best described as verbose logging.
<G-Mobile>
A program could be made that loada dlls and can reload individual dlls, and an extremely adept programmer might be able to make a dll that can be reloaded, I doubt any such people remain in the community
<G-Mobile>
In ksp*
<G-Mobile>
Yep, logging
<mike_>
huh. is the community largely dead these days?
<G-Mobile>
No, its just different, like the starwars prequels
<mike_>
lol
<mike_>
that makes it sound worse
<mike_>
hopefully there are no midichlorians.
<G-Mobile>
Worse is a kind of different
<mike_>
how do i detect when the scene is changing so i can do deallocation
<G-Mobile>
Do wha...
<G-Mobile>
darklight: what is this
<mike_>
okay, well, my network connection gets initialized when the flight scene is loaded
<mike_>
i’d like to do some cleanup when the flight scene is left
<mike_>
basically, i need to close the socket
<G-Mobile>
darklight is our network guy
<mike_>
oh, i think it’s a unity thing. i found some info about OnDestroy(), etc
<mike_>
i know that my Start() got called when the flight scene loaded
<mike_>
so i wonder if OnDestroy() gets called. time for some verbose logging.
<G-Mobile>
On destroy is part of GC, that will never happen reliably
<mike_>
gotcha. they both got called when i tested, but i will use disable
<G-Mobile>
Its probably easiest to have code watching for the start of the new scene instead of the end of the previous
<G-Mobile>
I forget if start fires in the editor but switchcase out all the scenes and do what you need when each scene starts based on the state of your machine
<mike_>
i have it set to load on Startup.Flight
<mike_>
OnDisable() gets called when the scene changes from flight
uovo is now known as egg
<G-Mobile>
;wa population of america in base pi
<G-Mobile>
;
<G-Mobile>
Hmmm
<kmath>
G-Mobile: I can't fix your problems
Supernovy has quit [Quit: Be back later.]
kronal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
kronal has joined #kspmodders
<SilverFox>
lul
<SilverFox>
gottem
<darklight>
SF I really liked thaumcraft
<darklight>
Vitas can tell you about my minecraft drug labs
<SilverFox>
naw, ima just go to bed instead
<darklight>
Greys linear actuators have a minimum length, but can lift a fair bit of weight. Not sure what you mean by chain dragger
<darklight>
Dlls cannot be unloaded because once an assembly loads in ksp, you can't unload it
<darklight>
Err, c#
<darklight>
Unless you use appdomains of course
<G-Mobile>
A circle of chain about two sprockets that is attached to the thing that needs to move