00:15 <egg> maccollo: nice!

01:10 <maccollo> I noticed the target frame trajectory would get a bit glitchy when predicting far into the future

01:11 <maccollo> Plotting it all the way from LKO wasn't really possible

01:22 <egg|zzz|egg> yeah, it's less accurate than the regular plotting frames

11:56 <Ururh> Hi! Can anybody help me with principia?

12:44 <maccollo> what's the problem?

12:50 <Ururh> The problem is I can't manage landing on the Moon with principia installed and running. I can do it just fine with the stck physics, but when the principia is running it's almost impossible

12:50 <maccollo> does the ground jitter?

12:51 <Ururh> The surface is drawn like 1 km below the actual level. And when I manage to "touchdown" at 2-3 m/s the moon kicks the probe in the butt

12:51 <Ururh> Sometimes I can see the correct surface andn "landed" status, but the next frame the probe is rolling at 5 m/s

12:52 <Ururh> Like something keeps kicking it

12:52 <maccollo> I think I know what it is

12:52 <maccollo> is the landing site above 5000 meters?

12:53 <Ururh> most probably

12:55 <Ururh> yes, its 7+ km above the sea level

12:55 <maccollo> yeah, there's the problem

12:55 <maccollo> principia uses the height were you can timewarp as an indicator for when it's going to switch back to normal physics

12:57 <Ururh> so you need to be below 5 km to land?

12:57 <maccollo> yeah

12:57 <Ururh> That quite an issue for RSS moon...

12:58 <maccollo> well, for RSS you can just change it in kopernicus

12:59 <maccollo> but doing so with the stock system might ruin the bop retrograde fix, not sure though

13:00 <Ururh> Can you give me an idea, what config to hack to change this height?

13:02 <Ururh> Nevermind. I found it.

13:02 <Ururh> Thanks for the help

13:03 <maccollo> so yeah, you make a kopernicus config

13:06 <maccollo> https://www.dropbox.com/s/pogwzp1ctji78rg/timeWarp.cfg?dl=0

13:06 <maccollo> should make an issue out of this

13:13 <Ururh> thank you. I'll file an issue

13:20 <Ururh> Yep. I modified timewarpAltitudeLimits in GameData\RealSolarSystem\RSSKopernicus\Earth\Moon.cfg and the landing went perfectly fine.

13:43 <GH> [Principia] maccollo opened issue #1413: Some stock bodies have peaks that are higher than the time warp limit https://git.io/vHCic

13:52 <GH> [Principia] Ururh commented on issue #1413: I confirm. It's even worse in RSS, where the Moon's Lunar Seas have an altitude of 7,5 km with the default timewarp limit of 5 km. At least with RSS it can be "fixed" with Kopernicus configs. https://git.io/vHCPy

14:48 <egg|work|egg> maccollo: hmm, interesting

14:50 <egg|work|egg> so that would mean that in stock there are places where the rotating frame threshold is higher than the timewarp limit?

14:51 <egg|work|egg> very odd

15:16 <maccollo> https://www.dropbox.com/s/7utvizyszdmt27v/Screenshot%202017-05-29%2017.16.19.png?dl=0

15:17 <maccollo> around the north pole on minmus is one location

16:11 <maccollo> tried to use my timewarp config, but had no effect for some reason

16:11 <maccollo> wanted to see if it would ruin the principia stock initial state

21:33 <Sigma88> here I am egg

21:33 <egg|afk|egg> Soozee: ok, that can work

21:33 <egg|afk|egg> Sigma88: I guess this is more a discussion for #kspacademia tbh

21:33 <Sigma88> bye then