00:50 <discord-> e​gg. — @Sir Mortimer what does this look like in an earth-moon rotating frame?

00:50 <discord-> e​gg. — kerbin-mun that is

01:07 <discord-> S​tarwaster. — Add moar boosterz

01:08 <discord-> S​tarwaster. — (and strutz)

01:43 <discord-> E​rnos. — How much harder is Principia compared to standard physics? I may grab it

03:39 <discord-> A​cer_Saccharum. — The only thing that I've found to be harder in principia is assembling an interplanetary ship in low orbit

03:40 <discord-> A​cer_Saccharum. — The nodal+apsidal precession is a real pain to deal with

03:48 <discord-> E​rnos. — ahh

05:51 <discord-> S​ir Mortimer. — @egg like a flower 😃 that’s what I used to set this up. Easier to recognise a mun resonant orbit in that frame

13:01 <discord-> S​tarwaster. — @Acer_Saccharum so docking in general is more difficult?

13:02 <discord-> D​amien. — rendezvous is easier in my experience

13:03 <discord-> D​amien. — because of being able to see multiple closest intercepts instead of just the two

13:08 <discord-> S​ir Mortimer. — i still have to do my first intercept + docking with principia

13:08 <discord-> S​ir Mortimer. — (don't have docking ports yet in my new career)

13:09 <discord-> S​ir Mortimer. — (in which i literally wasted months of time just to watch the beauty of a mun synchronous orbit on high time warp)

13:09 <discord-> S​ir Mortimer. — (in which i literally wasted months of time just to watch the beauty of a mun resonant orbit on high time warp) (edited)

14:28 <discord-> A​cer_Saccharum. — Docking is both easier and harder, if you don't really care about the exact plane the target vessel is in, principia's flight planner is really useful and easy, but if you care about the plane of your target, say if you're docking a transHab to a mars-transfer stage, you'll have a much tougher time getting everything right

14:30 <discord-> D​amien. — matching plane isn't that hard though

14:30 <discord-> D​amien. — no different to stock

14:31 <discord-> A​cer_Saccharum. — The hard part is being in the right plane at the right time

14:31 <discord-> A​cer_Saccharum. — Since your plane precesses slowly, and your TMI burn shouldn't be wildly out of plane

15:19 <_whitenotifier-5dfc> [Principia] jlNiap opened issue #2248: Vehicle unstability if equipped with robotics parts - https://git.io/fj1JT

16:13 <_whitenotifier-5dfc> [Principia] rsparkyc commented on issue #2247: Poor performance at max timewarp in Realism Overhaul - https://git.io/fj1Um

16:21 <discord-> A​gustinCaniglia. — principia is best

16:22 <discord-> A​gustinCaniglia. — It may be hard at first

16:22 <discord-> A​gustinCaniglia. — but its like all learning process I guess

16:22 <discord-> A​gustinCaniglia. — in the end you get more interesting orbits and possibilities

16:23 <discord-> A​gustinCaniglia. — and a better understanding of your trajectories

16:23 <discord-> A​gustinCaniglia. — Its hard to understand the movement in stock imo

16:23 <discord-> A​gustinCaniglia. — with principia you can see all your trajectory from any reference point

17:03 <discord-> K​obymaru. — So I'm on a flyby trajectory to the moon now. I know that I am "1.143 m/s out of plane" to the equator. But how many degrees is that??

19:05 <discord-> A​cer_Saccharum. — That's not enough information to tell, you'd need your in-plane velocity and your perpendicular out-of-plane velocity

21:02 <discord-> S​ir Mortimer. — how the heck am I supposed to scan the entire surface with that kind of orbit...

21:02 <discord-> S​ir Mortimer. — https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/480397772248580098/600794531323052057/Bildschirmfoto_2019-07-16_um_23.02.34.png

21:04 <discord-> S​ir Mortimer. — better 😃

21:04 <discord-> S​ir Mortimer. — https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/480397772248580098/600794923905581241/Bildschirmfoto_2019-07-16_um_23.04.20.png

21:05 <discord-> 𒀯​ 𒄷 𒄈𒀭𒁇. — I have reference frame questions

21:05 <discord-> 𒀯​ 𒄷 𒄈𒀭𒁇. — (Not in general, just for those Minmus orbit pics)

21:19 <discord-> S​ir Mortimer. — Surface fixed. Both

21:42 <discord-> e​gg. — O_O

21:43 <discord-> e​gg. — the first one I understand (it's near-synchronous, inclined), the second one is more confusing

22:12 <discord-> S​ir Mortimer. — Looks like something a kid would draw

22:12 <discord-> S​ir Mortimer. — Or one of those hyped modern artists

22:13 <discord-> S​ir Mortimer. — The difference is just a few meters of dv

22:21 <discord-> D​amien. — https://imgur.com/gallery/vqiTt2w

22:27 <discord-> n​eph. — I assume it's the same orbit? just barycentric vs surface-fixed?

23:06 <discord-> T​onas1997. — How well does Principia fare on a typical career save with (potentially) dozens of missions?

23:07 <discord-> T​onas1997. — 16Gb RAM here, btw

23:12 <discord-> A​cer_Saccharum. — your CPU is the critical factor with Principia, so with dozens of ships, it'd better be decent at minimum