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<queqiao-> ⟨SpaceMarine⟩ Okay so am launching from baikanour, using the scripts provided its incredibly hit or miss i have had it work sometimes and just be not even close at others, I dont know what am doing wrong, i run the script it time warps and then i launch, then plot the transfer out
<queqiao-> ⟨SpaceMarine⟩ the inconsistency is causing so many issues
<queqiao-> ⟨Stonesmile⟩ Using itsRyan's script? It has always worked for me assuming you press "Current" inclination...
<queqiao-> ⟨SpaceMarine⟩ the one you provided, and i am launching at current
<queqiao-> ⟨SpaceMarine⟩ atleast i shoudl be
<queqiao-> ⟨SpaceMarine⟩ 45.92 is the inclination of baikanour launch site
<queqiao-> ⟨Stonesmile⟩ Could you send a screenshot of the PVG window, and later the manoeuvre planner that you think should hit the moon?
<queqiao-> ⟨SpaceMarine⟩ its not that i think will hit the moon, its i cant even get close no matter where i am in the orbit
<queqiao-> ⟨SpaceMarine⟩ no matter delta v
<queqiao-> ⟨SpaceMarine⟩ sure i can after this run
<queqiao-> ⟨SpaceMarine⟩ do you need to reset to current each time in pvg maybe?
<queqiao-> ⟨Stonesmile⟩ Can't hurt
<queqiao-> ⟨SpaceMarine⟩ just did another launch this is what i get at the end result
<queqiao-> ⟨SpaceMarine⟩ no matter where i put the maneuver
<queqiao-> ⟨SpaceMarine⟩ cant hit the moon
<queqiao-> ⟨SpaceMarine⟩ heres pvg
<queqiao-> ⟨Stonesmile⟩ What if you shitch to a reference frame centered on the moon?
<queqiao-> ⟨SpaceMarine⟩ when?
<queqiao-> ⟨SpaceMarine⟩ i am in the right reference frame
<queqiao-> ⟨SpaceMarine⟩ for the top pic
<queqiao-> ⟨Stonesmile⟩ With the 3150 manoeuvre planned
<queqiao-> ⟨SpaceMarine⟩ thats with the correct
<queqiao-> ⟨SpaceMarine⟩ reference frame
<queqiao-> ⟨Stonesmile⟩ Switch the visual reference frame, not the planner reference frame
<queqiao-> ⟨SpaceMarine⟩ wdym
<queqiao-> ⟨egg⟩ both of your images are in ECI.
<queqiao-> ⟨egg⟩ It says ECI at the bottom, it says ECI in the plotting frame selector.
<queqiao-> ⟨egg⟩ that means the noodles are drawn in ECI.
<queqiao-> ⟨Stonesmile⟩ Marked in red
<queqiao-> ⟨SpaceMarine⟩ its on MEO
<queqiao-> ⟨SpaceMarine⟩ wait
<queqiao-> ⟨SpaceMarine⟩ theres two of them?
<queqiao-> ⟨egg⟩ No. Please read what I wrote.
<queqiao-> ⟨SpaceMarine⟩ wat
<queqiao-> ⟨egg⟩ You are in ECI. that’s good if you care about the Earth. Not so much if you care about MCI.
<queqiao-> ⟨egg⟩ * hitting the Moon.
<queqiao-> ⟨SpaceMarine⟩ i was looking at the bottom left one
<queqiao-> ⟨egg⟩ that is the manœuvre frame, which determines which way is forward for planning purposes.
<queqiao-> ⟨egg⟩ it does nothing for the drawings.
<queqiao-> ⟨SpaceMarine⟩ let me test
<queqiao-> ⟨SpaceMarine⟩ wait so do i want MCI or MEO, it says MEO is for flybys etc
<queqiao-> ⟨Stonesmile⟩ For the visuals, I usually use MCI for setting up TLI, but I guess MEO works too
<queqiao-> ⟨egg⟩ I would probably recommend MEO for getting the transfer about right, and MCI for lunar orbit operations
<queqiao-> ⟨SpaceMarine⟩ cause this is just about impacting for me largely
<queqiao-> ⟨Stonesmile⟩ Playing around with it is the important bit though, to get used to it
<queqiao-> ⟨SpaceMarine⟩ so managed to get an orbit, apparently the moon doesnt like things in orbit
<queqiao-> ⟨SpaceMarine⟩ cause i think i last 3 orbits?
<queqiao-> ⟨Stonesmile⟩ The moon is indeed hungry. What orbital parameters does your orbit have?
<queqiao-> ⟨SpaceMarine⟩ was a solid rocket insertion unguided so
<queqiao-> ⟨SpaceMarine⟩ 100kmx70,000km
<queqiao-> ⟨SpaceMarine⟩ lol
<queqiao-> ⟨Stonesmile⟩ Earth (and the Sun) can have large affects at that high Ap
<queqiao-> ⟨SpaceMarine⟩ yea i was being pulled all over the place, never mind still got what i needed
<_whitenotifier-81d9> [Principia] eggrobin opened pull request #3361: Some more Visual Studio versions - https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/pull/3361
<_whitenotifier-81d9> [Principia] eggrobin closed pull request #3361: Some more Visual Studio versions - https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/pull/3361
<queqiao-> ⟨n9gaming⟩ SpaceMarine Not sure if you figured it out or not yet, but ECI Maneuver Plane, MEO Plotting Frame - had em switched in the screenshots above. Looks like you got to orbit though so you might be alright now ^^
<queqiao-> ⟨SpaceMarine⟩ yea its sorted now