egg changed the topic of #principia to: Logs: https://esper.irclog.whitequark.org/principia | <scott_manley> anyone that doubts the wisdom of retrograde bop needs to get the hell out | https://xkcd.com/323/ | <egg> calculating the influence of lamont on Pluto is a bit silly…
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<queqiao-> ⟨butcher6994⟩ Nearly six years, they're persistent.
<_whitenotifier-1c82> [Principia] pleroy opened pull request #3862: Handle larger fold expressions in Clang - https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/pull/3862
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] pleroy closed pull request #3862: Handle larger fold expressions in Clang - https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/pull/3862
<queqiao-> ⟨faithundaction⟩ if I removed a planetary body from the save file with principia running, could it potentially cause ejections?
<queqiao-> ⟨faithundaction⟩ purely out of curiosity
<queqiao-> ⟨sichelgaita⟩ Explain to me how you are going to remove a planetary body. Purely out of curiosity.
<queqiao-> ⟨alforath⟩ Probably he added some with RSS-Origin; they have like dozens of small asteroids and moos made
<queqiao-> ⟨alforath⟩ * moons made as separate config files
<queqiao-> ⟨sichelgaita⟩ Fine, that's how the bodies were added when the save was created. My question is: how do you remove a body from a Principia save?
<queqiao-> ⟨alforath⟩ Well mod creator warns against removing configs after game start. That's all I know 😄
<queqiao-> ⟨alforath⟩ Well mod creator warns against ~removing~ ADDING configs after game start. That's all I know 😄
<queqiao-> They wrote, you can remove configs as much as you want
<queqiao-> ⟨alforath⟩ And from your question I asume Principia stores celestials' info in-save, so probably that's why
<queqiao-> ⟨alforath⟩ +dynamics
<queqiao-> ⟨Damien⟩ I think the question is 'how would Principia handle a body that was in the game, no longer being there next time the save is loaded?'
<queqiao-> ⟨Damien⟩ I'm assuming ksp would spam some kind of object not found error and crash
<queqiao-> ⟨sichelgaita⟩ Principia wouldn't even notice because the bodies are all recorded in the Principia part of the save. What KSP would do, I don't know.
<queqiao-> ⟨sichelgaita⟩ * would probably not
<queqiao-> ⟨sichelgaita⟩ +_Adding_ a body, on the other hand, would probably wreak havoc because KSP would talk about a body that Principia doesn't
<queqiao-> ⟨sichelgaita⟩ Anyway, it's not overly interesting to speculate. If someone cares, they should try.
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] pleroy opened pull request #3863: Code cleanup based on Clang warnings - https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/pull/3863
<queqiao-> ⟨egg⟩ Yeah, my guess is that the body would remain there as far as we are concerned, it would just not appear in the game except for its influence on the trajectories of other bodies and vessels. There is at least one case where Principia will spontaneously talk about a body though, which is the orbit analyser; if you were to orbit the missing body you would probably break the analyser window. That being a C#-side error you might not crash the...
<queqiao-> ... game.
<queqiao-> Adding bodies is an instant crash since the C++ side would look for a body it does not know about.
<queqiao-> Either way, this is stupid, don’t do it.
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<_whitenotifier-1c82> [Principia] pleroy closed pull request #3863: Code cleanup based on Clang warnings - https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/pull/3863
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] pleroy opened pull request #3864: Move PolynomialInMonomialBasis to its own file - https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/pull/3864
<_whitenotifier-1c82> [Principia] kosha227 opened issue #3865: Crashes when I take off from Minmus. - https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/issues/3865
<_whitenotifier-1c82> [Principia] pleroy commented on issue #3865: Crashes when I take off from Minmus. - https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/issues/3865#issuecomment-1925360962
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] eggrobin commented on issue #3865: Crashes when I take off from Minmus. - https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/issues/3865#issuecomment-1925361380
<queqiao-> ⟨egg⟩ Special mention for the argument
<queqiao-> > CKAN is a great way to […] bring new people to help with the project
<queqiao-> ⟨egg⟩ Think of the hordes of astronomers and numerical analysts just waiting for it to be on CKAN that they may contribute to Principia!
<queqiao-> ⟨siimav⟩ But what if it brings more Pedestrian Programmers to _help_!
<queqiao-> ⟨egg⟩ You mean, like https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/pull/2026?
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] pleroy closed pull request #3864: Move PolynomialInMonomialBasis to its own file - https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/pull/3864
<_whitenotifier> [Principia] kosha227 closed issue #3865: Crashes when I take off from Minmus. - https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/issues/3865
<_whitenotifier-1c82> [Principia] kosha227 commented on issue #3865: Crashes when I take off from Minmus. - https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/issues/3865#issuecomment-1925368474
<queqiao-> ⟨ballatik⟩ I don't know how many iterations your comment in closing that PR took, but it's a lovely piece of text.
<queqiao-> ⟨ac07682⟩ Hiya (: When I launch into target LAN, why do I end up significantly "below" the moon?
<queqiao-> ⟨ac07682⟩ I'm adding a 3260dV prograde burn here in order to intercept
<queqiao-> ⟨ac07682⟩ * tangent
<queqiao-> ⟨lpg4999⟩ launching into "target LAN" is a thing that only works twice a month
<queqiao-> ⟨ac07682⟩ Ah - my science knowledge is letting me down then
<queqiao-> ⟨lpg4999⟩ what you want to do is use the Lunar Transfer Planner
<queqiao-> ⟨ac07682⟩ is that baked in or something I need to download? I'll look into that now
<queqiao-> ⟨egg⟩ And butcher6994 has a deal whereby for one Lunar Transfer Planner downloaded, you get one cat picture offerred!
<queqiao-> ⟨robbibi_⟩ It's included by default
<queqiao-> ⟨ac07682⟩ Don't you tease me now
<queqiao-> ⟨robbibi_⟩ In rp1
<queqiao-> ⟨egg⟩ * offered!
<queqiao-> ⟨ac07682⟩ hi robbibi (: Thanks
<queqiao-> ⟨egg⟩ * Cat pictures are delivered to this channel. Offer valid while stocks last. Terms and conditions may apply.
<queqiao-> ⟨egg⟩ * Cat pictures are delivered to this channel. Offer valid while stocks last. Terms and conditions may apply.
<queqiao-> ⟨ac07682⟩ Well, let's see how this works
<queqiao-> ⟨ac07682⟩ That has worked an absolute treat, thank you!
<queqiao-> ⟨vlood⟩ can i request pictures of whiskey, instead?
<queqiao-> ⟨ac07682⟩ oh LOOK!
<queqiao-> ⟨siimav⟩ But not without a 🐱 in the same picture!
<queqiao-> ⟨vlood⟩ Both? Both. Both is good.
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<queqiao-> ⟨egg⟩ The bridge is padded now?
<queqiao-> ⟨butcher6994⟩ They prefer it with an old pillow
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