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⟨hansolo12p⟩ Nvm, duplicating the flight plan fixed it
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⟨hansolo12p⟩ weird
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⟨egg⟩ I am guessing rebasing fixed it; did you stage since you had created the flight plan, or did you activate an engine since you created the manœuvre?
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⟨hansolo12p⟩ Neither. Tried rebasing too, and it was fixed when copying it.
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⟨hansolo12p⟩ weird but it worked
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⟨egg⟩ Hm.
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⟨egg⟩ Did you try re-pressing Active Engines?
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⟨hansolo12p⟩ Yeah, also didn't work
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⟨egg⟩ Very odd.
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⟨hansolo12p⟩ When I copied it, plan B had the errored burn time, plan A had the proper burn time
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⟨egg⟩ Did you use the optimizer recently?
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⟨hansolo12p⟩ I did a couple of times, the burntime was errored both before and after, including deleting the maneuver, even reverting the flight
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⟨hansolo12p⟩ +didn't fix, just copying the plan
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⟨hansolo12p⟩ Made sure RCS was not enabled for teh entirety of its creation as well
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⟨egg⟩ I should check whether the optimizer squirrels away an old engine configuration or something; we have had bugs where it squirreled away _something_.
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⟨hansolo12p⟩ Entirely off topic, but if I have a forwards-firing solid as a final kickstage, and plan the maneuver retrograde to make sure it works, then replan it prograde and execute, it might work?
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⟨hansolo12p⟩ for example, i am trying to orbit the mun, the engine i have that is to complete it is forward-firing. No idea why I decided to do that but here we are 💀
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⟨Damien⟩ I recreated the mission and intended to capture into a chaotic orbit like the original but the mission failed due to a principia bug
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⟨Damien⟩ The probe had no attitude control so the orientation it left earth in had to be the attitude it reached the moon in which is why a forwards facing booster was used for capture
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⟨Damien⟩ Pioneer 0/Able 1 was designed to do exactly that (capture at the moon using a retrorocket)
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⟨Damien⟩ Also I've just realised you meant using the retrorocket for transfer, not capture
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⟨Damien⟩ 🙃
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⟨egg⟩ (which has since been fixed; you should try again!)
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⟨Damien⟩ That would require the time and motivation to play games. I enjoy ksp vicariously through discord these days
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⟨egg⟩ Admittedly I enjoy it through Visual Studio, so fair enough.
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[Principia] pleroy closed pull request #3918: Change the polynomial evaluators to be specified at the object level and not at the type level - https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/pull/3918
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⟨hansolo12p⟩ No that is what I was talking about, I did use a retro rocket for capture
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⟨hansolo12p⟩ Worked wayyy better than I imagined it would
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⟨Damien⟩ ah cool, well congrats
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⟨hansolo12p⟩ thank ya thank ya
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⟨hansolo12p⟩ also, I assume if I have perfectly balanced RCS in all 3 axes, it will no longer affect (or have minimal effect) on the trajectory?
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⟨hansolo12p⟩ gone are the days of "I'll just throw some blocks on the bottom"