Sigma88 changed the topic of #Kopernicus to: #Kopernicus | Release 1.2.2-5 - https://git.io/v0Gg5 | Pictures: http://git.io/vWxD6 | List of packs: http://git.io/vWjiY | GitHub: http://git.io/vWAFE | Examples: http://git.io/vWAF9 | Visual Editor: http://git.io/vWAbq | Funny Quotes: https://git.io/vwsX1 | <NathanKell> Unity >.> | <Sigma88> probably just drunk users as usual
<Sigma88> let's see how it looks
<Sigma88> your looks better tho
<Sigma88> I'll probably use that after if mine looks crap
<Sigma88> oh-oh
<Sigma88> KSC might not last much more
<Qboid> Sigma88: I'll redirect this as soon as they are around.
<GregroxMun> http://imgur.com/a/KSXF4 for my Alternis Kerbin in development I put a volcano where K2 mountains should be.
<GregroxMun> http://i.imgur.com/99tSxBg.png looks almost the same from the ground
<GregroxMun> http://imgur.com/a/OZjgR something else I got up to while mostly away from the Kopernicus chat
<GregroxMun> Based upon NovaSilisko's very first idea for what the KSP solar system should look like.
<GregroxMun> Egar, (Duna) in the foreground and Meander (Jool) in the background.
<Sigma88> very cool
<GregroxMun> Meander was actually going to be a fairly small planet at 27,000,000 meter radius.
<GregroxMun> There would also have been twin binary ice giants, Mandrake and Rutherford (naturally they were discovered by siamese twin astronomers of those names)
<GregroxMun> I used Sigma Binary for it but SB's SOI mechanics are really lacking when it comes to binaries of similar mass.
<GregroxMun> The whole system is almost certainly not N-body stable, but I haven't tried with Principia.
<Sigma88> yeah it's not really made to do that
<GregroxMun> Would it work alright if I manually shrunk Rutherford's SOI?
<GregroxMun> As long as the barycenter is covered it's fine, right?
<Sigma88> R is the secondary?
<GregroxMun> yes
<Sigma88> SOI should automatically be limited
<Sigma88> it should not go further than halfway between the two planets
<GregroxMun> Well SB broke
<GregroxMun> let me load it up and get some screenshots
<GregroxMun> (I imagine you'll want Module Manager cache too?)
<Sigma88> yes
<Sigma88> MM cache and the value of SOI you get for the secondary
<Sigma88> worst case scenario you can manually limit the SOI to stop halfway between the two planets
<Sigma88> gtg
<Sigma88> cya tomorrow
<GregroxMun> o/
<Sigma88> put everything in the dropbox folder
<Sigma88> so I remember
<GregroxMun> ok
<Sigma88> :)
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<GregroxMun> !tell Sigma* I had stressful troubles with having deleted the entire mod in question and then managing to find an old version of the configs and a new version of the textures and at any rate I probably won't have the information about the SB bug soon.
<Qboid> GregroxMun: I'll redirect this as soon as they are around.
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<SigmaAway> lol
<Qboid> SigmaAway: GregroxMun left a message for you in #Kopernicus [27.04.2017 00:51:37]: "I had stressful troubles with having deleted the entire mod in question and then managing to find an old version of the configs and a new version of the textures and at any rate I probably won't have the information about the SB bug soon."
<SigmaAway> !tell Gregrox* ?
<Qboid> SigmaAway: I'll redirect this as soon as they are around.
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<SigmaAway> s/dl=0/dl=0
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<Sigma88> s/dl=0/dl=0
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<Thomas> o/
<Sigma88> 0/ thomas
<Sigma88> hmmm
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<Thomas|> ping
<Sigma88> !tell Sigma88* qboid sucks
<Thomas|> Qboid?
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<Sigma88> I think he died
<Sigma88> :(
<Thomas> Hmm, yeah, the bouncer quit
<Thomas> And can someone please kill my windows for downloading updates EVERY TIME I START IT
<Sigma88> w10 sucks
<Sigma88> did you see the pic thomas?
<Thomas> Yes
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<Thomas> Sigma88: No, windows 10 doesnt suck at all
<Thomas> windows 10 is awesome
<Thomas> (no I am not being sarcastic)
<Sigma88> yes?
<Sigma88> I don't like it very much honestly
<Thomas> free updates for ever, and it looks good
<Thomas> And, it runs on computers who arent capable of running win 7
<Sigma88> yeah well, I would like to have control of when the pc is restarted
<Thomas> Oh you have that
<Sigma88> how?
<Thomas> It installs the updates when you restart the pc
<Thomas> I never seen a popup "restart now"
<Sigma88> it forces the restart if you leave the pc switched on long enough
<Sigma88> I've lost data for that
<Thomas> With win 10?
<Sigma88> yup
<Thomas> Never had that
<Thomas> and at school I have a win 10 pc running for almost 1/2 year now
<TwistedMinds> Yup, there is no "restart now" popup because it's automatically scheduled without confirmation (during "off" hours, aka between 21h and 5h) if you leave the computer idle for 30min
<Sigma88> ^
<Thomas> yes, but you can disable that :D
<Sigma88> where?
<Sigma88> I tried multiple times
<TwistedMinds> pretty sure they removed the option to disable it a long time ago
<TwistedMinds> as for automatic update, you can "game" it by using the metered connections thingy
<TwistedMinds> tethered*
<Thomas> you can disable it through group policy
<Sigma88> not if you have a pc with ethernet cable
<Sigma88> group policy?
<TwistedMinds> Sigma88, with the new update (got it today) you can enable it even over ethernet
<Sigma88> ah cool
<Sigma88> I usually disable the restart task on the task scheduler
<Thomas> Sigma88: Basically a list of settings where you can allow or disallow functions for users / groups / computers.
<teabot> Setteangs.
<Sigma88> but every time I install updates it gets messed up and I have to re-apply the change
<teabot> Teame.
<Thomas> Sigma88: It is more useful if you have a windows server domain, yes, but it exists on every windows
<TwistedMinds> Sigma88, "group policty" -> Administrative Components -> Windows Components -> Windows Update -> Configure Automatic Updates (enable that option)
<Thomas> Sigma88: Or you block the windows update servers in your router :P
<TwistedMinds> but I'm 99% certain it doesn't do anything anymore, i remember hearing they disabled it a couple months ago
<TwistedMinds> Wait it's not just enabling it. Set it to "2 - Notify for download and auto install"
<Sigma88> I don't have Administrative Components
<Sigma88> nor Windows Components
<TwistedMinds> err... Local Computer Policy, administrative templates, windows components, windows update
<Thomas> Sigma88: Did you do Windows + R and entered gpedit.msc?
<TwistedMinds> sorry, wrote it from memory the first time
<Sigma88> thomas wut?
<Thomas> Thats how you start the group policy editor
<Sigma88> "cannot find gpedit.msc"
<Thomas> pro or home?
<Sigma88> home
<Thomas> home doesnt have the editor afaik
<Olympic1> nope
<Olympic1> hi btw
<Thomas> hi
<TwistedMinds> "Let's make a Windows version we'll keep updating forever, so everyone is on the same page" "but let's make 12 different version of it".
<Sigma88> even more stupid
<Sigma88> let's make it a tablet lookalike
<Sigma88> so people with mice cannot use right click but have to hold left button
<Thomas> ? .D
<Sigma88> that makes me want to smash the screen everytime
<Thomas> *:D
<Sigma88> there is a lot of crap for tablet
<Sigma88> for example
<Thomas> Yes, but that only enables when your machine is detected as a tablet
<Olympic1> TwistedMinds: only 5 - home, pro, education, enterprise and recently creators
<Sigma88> no
<Thomas> creators is just an update
<Thomas> like the anniversary update
<Sigma88> I get a lot of crap for tablet on my desktop
<Sigma88> not even laptop
<TwistedMinds> Future microsoft's mice proof-of-concept http://imgur.com/a/sl6aR
<Sigma88> for example
<Sigma88> open the list of networks available by clicking on the wifi symbol in the tray (or the eternet symbol)
<Sigma88> on the list of networks, choose one and right click on it
<Sigma88> --- nothing ---
<Sigma88> or the fact that programs are now called "apps"
<Sigma88> give me a break
<Sigma88> it's not a phone, it's a computer
<Thomas> Sigma88: and? what should happen if you do a right click?
<TwistedMinds> Sigma88, tbh, you can right-click the 'network' icon and open the network options directly :)
<TwistedMinds> and the Content Creator update improved the interface *a lot* although I still dislike the overall feel of it
<teabot> Steall.
<Sigma88> Thomas: options, stuff that now you have to left click 3 times to get to
<Sigma88> for example, let's say you want to forget a network
<Sigma88> on wi-fi
<Sigma88> it used to be a right click option
<Sigma88> now you need to do like 5 left clicks
<Thomas> Windows forgets a network when you disconnect from it
<Sigma88> no
<Sigma88> it keeps the password if you select "remember password"
<Sigma88> I'm not a windows hater
<Sigma88> but some changes really I don't like
<Thomas> Yeah, sure
<Sigma88> mostly the stuff that is made to make a pc look like a tablet
<Sigma88> :S
<Thomas> I dont like everything in win 10 too, but I think it is still better than using an os that is almost 10 years old
<Sigma88> I love the "drag a window on a border to make it fit half screen" feature
<Sigma88> I think win 7 had a better interface, even if win 8 and win 10 introduced a lot of cool features
<Sigma88> win 7 felt like an OS for a PC
<Sigma88> win8 felt like an OS for a tablet
<Sigma88> win 10 feels like a compromise
<Thomas> because it is one
<Olympic1> win 9 was nice :P
<Sigma88> that's my point
<Sigma88> I don't want a compromise
<Sigma88> I want an OS for a PC
<Sigma88> if they can manage to make it work on a tablet as well then awesome
<Sigma88> but don't make the PC version cluncky
<Sigma88> s/ck/k
<Qboid> Sigma88 meant to say: but don't make the PC version clunky
<Sigma88> I'm still hoping they can manage to make a true universal OS that can be good on both platforms (3 if you count xbox)
<Sigma88> 4 if you count phones and tablet as different things
<Thomas> 5 if you count servers :P
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<GregroxLaptop> o/
<Qboid> GregroxLaptop: SigmaAway left a message for you in #Kopernicus [27.04.2017 07:38:21]: "?"
<GregroxLaptop> what was the thumbs up referring to
<Sigma88> the sb thing
<Sigma88> I think I might know what's wrong
<Sigma88> did you check the SOIs before installing SB?
<Sigma88> I think I removed the SOI limitations for the secondary
<Sigma88> on the basis that you should really fix the SOI of the secondary on the non binarized system
<Sigma88> GregroxLaptop^
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<Qboid> [#5435] title: Update SSRSS | * Updated SSRSS... | https://github.com/KSP-CKAN/NetKAN/issues/5435
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<SigmaSemi> Olympic1: I'm not capable of handling bug reports right now, so it's better that my mods remain off CKAN
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<Olympic1> ok, no problem
<Sigma88> I'd love to have the motivation I had some time ago, but I just can't find the energy to work on KSP stuff
<Sigma88> I started KSP yesterday for the first time in months
<TonyC> hi
<TonyC> hi Sigma88
<Sigma88> 0/
<TonyC> in response i say "updaté modd!! xd!"
<TonyC> anyway, how are you?
<Sigma88> fine
<Sigma88> tired :D
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