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<UmbralRaptop> huh, hattivat sighting
<galois> title: Shared album - Patrick N - Google Photos
<B787_300> UmbralRaptop: but if i dont use the coffee machine how will i be awake enough to do whatever is in the box?
<UmbralRaptop> B787_300: hope that the hotel has a coffee machine that doesn't require an adapter
<galois> title: Arden🐞 on Twitter: "… "
<B787_300> ah those are international adapters?
<B787_300> i was expecting fun science equipment... although that would have been a werid set of warnings
<UmbralRaptop> Exciting science equipment like a phone, a laptop, and a battery bank
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<B787_300> to which country are you travelling
<UmbralRaptop> Union Arial
<UmbralRaptop> (Switzerland)
<galois> title: Ravenmaster on Twitter: "Hello world my name is Merlina, I like to have fun and play. I have emotions too #ravens #ravenmaster… "
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* egg|cell|egg in CH
<egg|cell|egg> UmbralRaptor: meow
<UmbralRaptop> nyaa
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<UmbralRaptop> Also, I thought I missed a bus (by 2-4 minutes), and switched to a backup route, but it turned out that the bus was 10 minutes late
<egg> UmbralRaptop: welcome to not CH
<UmbralRaptop> Anyway, bus caught, now waiting for subway
<egg> UmbralRaptop: compare with CH where if the tram is stuck at the stop waiting for a traffic light but you're late to take it it will not open its doors
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<UmbralRaptop> (Vienna → Rosslyn → DCA)
* UmbralRaptop wonders if physicists are commutative
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<UmbralRaptop> … apparently the blue line is closed in one direction?
<UmbralRaptop> Anyway, half of the station where I was going to switch trains seems to be closed for construction
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<UmbralRaptop> Ah, still running, just slowly
<egg> UmbralRaptop: walking?
<UmbralRaptop> trains
<UmbralRaptop> well, subways
<egg|laptop|egg> walking sandwiches
<e_14159> egg: This is contrary to Germany, where the tram will both not open the doors *and* be late.
<egg|laptop|egg> for reasons unknown I am reminded of https://twitter.com/whitequark/status/684940119099465728
<galois> title: whitequark on Twitter: "one day I'll open a bar. Offer sandwiches in sizes: single, half, double, and ppc_f128. Call it "FPU Lounge""
<egg|laptop|egg> ah maybe because sandwiches
<bofh> e_14159: wait, Germany, public transit being late, wat?
<e_14159> That's sarcasm, right? I have difficulties recognizing that in written form.
<whitequark> in my experience germans hate their trains more than russians hate their trains
<UmbralRaptop> Germans and Russians hate their trains?
<bofh> I mean my very limited experience with German transit was Frankfurt, where literally half the S-Bahn was under construction at the time and so unusuable
<bofh> I got to see a lot of posters of a very smarmy-looking mole, tho.
<egg|laptop|egg> whitequark: in what sense do they hate their trains
<egg|laptop|egg> whitequark: do they complain about them all the time and use them a lot like the french, or do they avoid them
<bofh> egg|laptop|egg: I mean, Source Naturelle des Catastrophes Ferroviaires,
<egg|laptop|egg> I did not know that one
<egg|laptop|egg> bofh: did I show you the Hassan Cehef sketch
<egg|laptop|egg> bofh: also have you seen the "c'est possible" ads
<bofh> egg|laptop|egg: I have not seen that sketch, no
<bofh> also link to ads? I've seen one of those so far
<e_14159> bofh: Oh, yes, the mole. It's almost everywhere...
<e_14159> bofh: At least in Munich, there's a continuing impression that public transport isn't working.
<e_14159> I don't have that, but that's because I leave for work by ~0720, which means I mostly avoid the rush hour.
<bofh> I am suddenly reminded of trying to use ligne 4 around 17h30 on a weekday
<bofh> literally took one look at the maximally packed cars, went NOPE, FUCK THIS and waited for the next one. repeat 3x before one with enough room in it to comfortably stand arrived.
<galois> title: SNCF : TRAIN VOYAGE FRET - Publicité Ina.fr
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<bofh> merci
<galois> title: SNCF FRET : TRANSPORT MARCHANDISE - Publicité Ina.fr
<galois> title: SNCF : COMPAGNIE FERROVIAIRE - Publicité Ina.fr
<galois> title: SNCF : COMPAGNIE FERROVIAIRE - Publicité Ina.fr
<galois> title: SNCF : TRANSPORTS PUBLICS TRAIN - Publicité Ina.fr
<galois> title: SNCF TER : TRANSPORT TRAIN - Publicité Ina.fr
<egg|laptop|egg> bofh: for more, https://www.ina.fr/recherche/search?search=sncf, restrict to pub, sort by increasing date, and look for adverts from 87 onwards
<galois> title: Recherche Ina fr
<bofh> okay this website is great, for starters
<galois> title: SNCF : TRANSPORTS PUBLICS TRAIN - Publicité Ina.fr
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<e_14159> bofh: Yes, that situation happens here, too.
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<egg> bofh: someone is wrong about ada on the internet https://twitter.com/eggleroy/status/1107003090522251265
<galois> title: Robin Leroy on Twitter: "Ada has the expected precedence between * and -, see RM 4.4 and 4.5:simple_expression ⩴ [unary_adding_operator] term {binary_adding_operator term}term ⩴ factor {multiplying_operator factor}https://t.co/eJ10slARAe, https://t.co/mX3O5S8xms.… https://t.co/xZhCy5dYHB"
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<galois> title: SNCF : TRANSPORTS PUBLICS TRAIN - Publicité Ina.fr
<bofh> LOL THE TICKETING CLERK RESPONDED IN VERLAN
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<egg> that's, uh, a weird name for an airport
<egg> !acr -add:DCA Défense Contre Avions
<galois> Definition added!
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<UmbralRaptop> E170/175s are somewhat less exciting than smaller aircraft
<UmbralRaptop> (cc: B787_300)
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<B787_300> could be worse... you could be on a 145 or CRJ200
<B787_300> although i kinda like the 145
<B787_300> loathe the CRJ200 tho
<PHLRaptor> 145 are the really fun/scary ones to ride in IIRC?
<B787_300> 145 are a 1-2 layout
<B787_300> PHL so you are flying UNited overseas?
<PHLRaptor> with overhead bins on one soft right?
<PHLRaptor> ended up flying AA
<B787_300> ew
<PHLRaptor> s/soft/side
<galois> PHLRaptor meant to say: with overhead bins on one side right?
<egg> PHLRaptor: I was commenting that DCA was a weird-looking airport name from a french perspective
<egg> DCA?
<galois> DCA: Défense Contre Avions
<B787_300> yeah
<B787_300> (bins on one side)
<B787_300> wait you flew DCA-PHL?
<egg> (literally defense against aircraft, means anti-aircraft artillery)
<PHLRaptor> I mean, DCA is right by the Pentagon
<B787_300> and there are some really tight TFRs all around DCA
<PHLRaptor> B787_300: yeah. We barely broke 10k feet apparently
<B787_300> TFR?
<B787_300> how do i add
<B787_300> Temporary Flight Restriction (AKA no fly zone)
<B787_300> although the ones around DCA and over Disney World are really permanant
<PHLRaptor> !acr -add:TFR Temporary Flight Restriction (AKA no fly zone)
<galois> Definition added!
<B787_300> so how long is the layover before the flight from PHL?
<PHLRaptor> Was supposed to be ~2 hr, but initial plane got delayed so ~90 minutes?
<B787_300> https://twitter.com/netmanchris/status/1106933045737721856 also fun to think about as you are about to travel to what i assume is a conference
<galois> title: Chris Young 🇨🇦 on Twitter: "This is crazy. Study shoes three people in a conference room over 2 hours can result in a Co2 level that can impair cognitive functioning. Ie. If you’re making decisions at the end of the meeting, you’re mentally less qualified to do so.… https://t.co/oAxWc6iVAf"
<egg|laptop|egg_> bofh: my guess is that assyriologists aren't font designers and vice versa https://twitter.com/bofh453/status/1107039109288214528
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<egg|laptop|egg> bofh: http://home.zcu.cz/~ksaskova/Sign_List.html is a useful resource
<galois> title: Domovske stranky uzivatelu
<PHLRaptor> B787_300: I wonder if better ventilation…
<B787_300> jus tthink about it though if there isnt a long recovery period
<B787_300> and of course better verntilation would help
<bofh> egg|laptop|egg: I swear you've linked that to *me* in the past, lol.
<egg|laptop|egg> yes
<bofh> egg|laptop|egg: also it's not the *font* that's what's the issue, it's that the codepoints are apparently not mapped meaningfully to the cuneiform glyphs, it's haphazard (and ofc a major complaint is there's no way to differentiate, say, Ur III from Neo-Assyrian, but imho that's something that is better done via IVS)
<bofh> egg|laptop|egg: Han Unification but for Sumero-Akkadian,
<egg|laptop|egg> bofh: nobody encodes glyphs
<egg|laptop|egg> bofh: but people not familiar with the encoding of complex scripts think the encoding is an encoding of glyphs
<egg|laptop|egg> bofh: so yes, you have unification
<egg|laptop|egg> bofh: which is why you need separate fonts
<egg|laptop|egg> bofh: possibly adding to confusion, the characters have human-friendly names, instead of names like those of CJKV ideographs, which means that the names may be inappropriate for a usage
<bofh> I mean yes, that is also an issue.
<bofh> Like for instance I ran into this with qēmu (Akkadian for 'flour'). It's ZID2.DA., but in Neo-Assyrian ESH2 (ZID2) and ZID3 merged to the same glyph, leading to confusion.
<egg|laptop|egg> bofh: welcome to the world of CJK
<egg|laptop|egg> except you get ligatures as a bonus
<bofh> I mean don't worry, I know :P
<bofh> Like a lot of my irritation at the Assyriology bunch comes from the fact that they could stand to read Ken Lunde's CJKV Information Processing text, at least a few particular chapters of it.
<egg|laptop|egg> bofh: anyway, clearly the solution is: "just do it"; the fonts are out there (not with ligatures, but it's a start), the documentation of what the characters correspond to in various schemes is out there https://cdli.ucla.edu/dl/lineart/P414985_l.jpg 𒀀𒈾 𒂍𒀀𒈾𒍢𒅕...
<B787_300> PHLRaptor: so what plane is the overseas leg on?
<PHLRaptor> Boing 767-300
<bofh> egg|laptop|egg: I mean I agree, I'm just trying to cobble together enough attention span to get around to doing it :/
<PHLRaptor> 2-3-2 seats, I have a middle row aisle
<B787_300> AA92 to ZRH?
<PHLRaptor> yep
<B787_300> 15.6 years old
<PHLRaptor> meep
<PHLRaptor> Anyway, time for airplane mode
<B787_300> safe travels
<PHLRaptor> thanks
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<B787_300> i mean the average for AA aircraft is ~20 years old
<B787_300> (that is AA 767s)
<B787_300> https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=66640 also lol this is the plane he is on
<galois> title: Incident Boeing 767-300 N350AN, 15 Jul 2009
<B787_300> (and yes i do this for every flight i take or when people i know are on a flight)
<B787_300> (it is a good way to shut up noisy neighbors too... all you have to say is "Did you know this aircraft has been involved in an incident?")
<whitequark> nice
<egg|laptop|egg> B787_300: hm, you didn't do this for mine yesterday
<B787_300> egg|laptop|egg: i didnt know you were flying
<galois> title: #kspacademia on 2019-03-15 — irc logs at whitequark.org
<egg|laptop|egg> SQ 185
<B787_300> oh hey you were on a 787?
<egg|laptop|egg> hence the meowing
<egg|laptop|egg> then on an A380 for SIN ZRH
<B787_300> i thought you were just bored
<B787_300> SIngapore Airlines?
<egg|laptop|egg> yes
<B787_300> how is their economy soft product?
<B787_300> it is on my bucket list to fly their first/businsess class
<B787_300> (i am assuming you were in economy... )
<egg|laptop|egg> I was in business
<B787_300> how was it
<egg|laptop|egg> nice
<B787_300> were you in the newer product or the older one?
<egg|laptop|egg> had a nice noodle soup with various crispy bits of pig
<egg|laptop|egg> B787_300: I think it's the newer one
<egg|laptop|egg> for the 380 that is
<B787_300> nice, although it was the whale
<egg|laptop|egg> B787_300: also flew SGN DAD and back while I was in VN
<B787_300> DAD?
<galois> title: Da Nang International Airport - Wikipedia
<galois> [WIKIPEDIA] Da Nang International Airport | "Da Nang International Airport (IATA: DAD, ICAO: VVDN) (Vietnamese: Sân bay Quốc tế Đà Nẵng) is located in Da Nang, the largest city in central Vietnam. It is the third international airport in the country, besides Noi Bai International Airport (Hanoi) and Tan Son Nhat International Airport (Ho Chi Minh..."
<B787_300> ah
<egg|laptop|egg> VN126 2019-03-03, VN115 2019-03-13
<egg|laptop|egg> B787_300: so the plane for that VN115 was https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=213834
<galois> title: Runway excursion Incident Airbus A321-231 VN-A336, 28 Jul 2018
<B787_300> eh that is pretty mild
<egg|laptop|egg> look, they can't all fall on their noses in a hangar
<B787_300> one of my friends was on a plane that had had a depressurization event before
<egg|laptop|egg> nothing interesting on the SQ aircraft that I can find
<egg|laptop|egg> and the VN126 is far enough in the past that I can't find which aircraft that was