raptop changed the topic of #kspacademia to: https://gist.github.com/pdn4kd/164b9b85435d87afbec0c3a7e69d3e6d | Dogs are cats. Spiders are cat interferometers. | Космизм сегодня! | Document well, for tomorrow you may get mauled by a ネコバス. | <UmbralRaptor> egg|nomz|egg: generally if your eyes are dewing over, that's not the weather. | <ferram4> I shall beat my problems to death with an engineer. | We can haz pdf
<UmbralRaptor> pfft
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<UmbralRaptor> Algorithms™ (WASP-18 b is a really neat planet, though) https://photos.app.goo.gl/4iuyEmr6rWMmXnzW7
<galois> title: Shared album - Patrick N - Google Photos
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<UmbralRaptor> bofh: so, uh, that MESSENGER paper eggsplains the epithermal neutrons in the introduction >_<
<UmbralRaptor> (galactic cosmic rays spallating nuclei on any conveniently nearby surfaces)
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<galois> title: Æthelred Kerman by eggrobin · Pull Request #1459 · mockingbirdnest/Principia · GitHub
<galois> title: Æthelred Kerman by eggrobin · Pull Request #1459 · mockingbirdnest/Principia · GitHub
<egg|zzz|egg> whitequark: https://twitter.com/caveheraa/status/1104305713713541120 in french we have bimensuel vs. bimestriel
<galois> title: Heraa Hashmi on Twitter: "thanks guys for your help… "
<egg|zzz|egg> bimensuel being fortnightly and bimestriel being every two months
<bofh> I kept reading "bimestriel" as a brand name of an old stilbestrol-derived estrogen >_>
<bofh> (before realizing it was just French)
<egg|zzz|egg> trimestriel for quartely, semestriel for twice a year, etc.
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: it's weird that english has semesters but quarters rather than trimesters
<bofh> I mean I've always thought that was weird, "trimesters" seems actually much more understandable.
<bofh> also ugh, DST shift this weekend
<bofh> here, not in EU. also hopefully EU cans it very soon.
<_whitenotifier-7258> [Principia] pleroy commented on pull request #2089: An interface that can actually be called - https://git.io/fhhMH
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<_whitenotifier-7258> [Principia] eggrobin synchronize pull request #2089: An interface that can actually be called - https://git.io/fhhqf
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<galois> title: #kspacademia on 2018-10-01 — irc logs at whitequark.org
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<_whitenotifier-7258> [Principia] eggrobin reviewed pull request #2088 commit - https://git.io/fhhD2
<_whitenotifier-7258> [Principia] eggrobin reviewed pull request #2088 commit - https://git.io/fhhDa
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<_whitenotifier-7258> [Principia] pleroy closed pull request #2089: An interface that can actually be called - https://git.io/fhhqf
<_whitenotifier-7258> [Principia] pleroy pushed 15 commits to master [+4/-2/±36] https://git.io/fhhye
<_whitenotifier-7258> [Principia] eggrobin c841b49 - none of this makes sense
<_whitenotifier-7258> [Principia] eggrobin 29c5347 - it works
<_whitenotifier-7258> [Principia] eggrobin 9b48785 - is_public
<_whitenotifier-7258> [Principia] ... and 12 more commits.
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<_whitenotifier-7258> [Principia] pleroy synchronize pull request #2088: Make the Ephemeris fully thread-safe and improve error reporting - https://git.io/fhhvW
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<_whitenotifier-7258> [Principia] eggrobin labeled pull request #2088: Make the Ephemeris fully thread-safe and improve error reporting - https://git.io/fhhvW
<_whitenotifier-7258> [Principia] pleroy opened issue #2090: Remove Ephemeris::ForgetBefore - https://git.io/fhhyl
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: well, you could call semesterly halfly, and every two months sixthly :-p
<_whitenotifier-7258> [Principia] KHN190 starred Principia - https://git.io/fhhyw
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<_whitenotifier-7258> [Principia] pleroy closed pull request #2088: Make the Ephemeris fully thread-safe and improve error reporting - https://git.io/fhhvW
<_whitenotifier-7258> [Principia] pleroy pushed 7 commits to master [+1/-0/±25] https://git.io/fhhy7
<_whitenotifier-7258> [Principia] pleroy 43908d1 - Make the Ephemeris fully thread-safe, and take advantage of the fact that ContinuousTrajectory is now thread-safe. Improve error reporting.
<_whitenotifier-7258> [Principia] pleroy 100675f - Lint.
<_whitenotifier-7258> [Principia] pleroy ad632b0 - Merge remote-tracking branch 'mockingbirdnest/master' into ThreadSafeEphemeris
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<_whitenotifier-7258> [Principia] pleroy opened pull request #2091: Remove GetTargetVesselPrediction - https://git.io/fhhyj
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<_whitenotifier-7258> [Principia] eggrobin reviewed pull request #2091 commit - https://git.io/fhh5U
<_whitenotifier-7258> [Principia] eggrobin labeled pull request #2091: Remove GetTargetVesselPrediction - https://git.io/fhhyj
<egg|zzz|egg> !acr -add:SSALTO Segment-Sol multi-missions d’ALTimétrie, Orbitographie et localisation précise
<galois> Definition added!
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: acronym
<bofh> yum, salt
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<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: the IDS tends to refer to it as SSA in SP3 files
<egg|zzz|egg> well, in the file names
<egg|zzz|egg> the agency field is CNES in the ssa files
<egg|zzz|egg> and LCA in the grg files (which come from the GRGS)
<egg|zzz|egg> LCA?
<galois> LCA: LEGOS/CLS Analysis Center
<egg|zzz|egg> GRGS?
<egg|zzz|egg> huh
<egg|zzz|egg> GRG?
<galois> GRG: Groupe de Recherche de Géodésie
<egg|zzz|egg> yeah I really should have added GRGS instead of GRG, GRG is just their weird abbrevation
<egg|zzz|egg> !acr -add:GRGS Groupe de Recherche de Géodésie Spatiale
<galois> Definition added!
<egg|zzz|egg> !acr -remove:GRG
<galois> Invalid command. Valid forms: !acr -add:LMAO Lagrange Made Awesome Orbits, !acr -redef:ROFL Rare Occultations for Life, !acr -del:IEEE
<egg|zzz|egg> !acr -del:GRG
<galois> Definition deleted!
<_whitenotifier-7258> [Principia] icyblade starred Principia - https://git.io/fhhdE
<egg|zzz|egg> !acr -add:AIUB Astronomical Institute of the University of Bern
<galois> Definition added!
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: aaaaa no-one ever writes valid SP3 files *sob*
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: ESOC: puts a R in the field that should be %c instead of in the following A2 where it belongs
<egg|zzz|egg> the IGS combination does the same thing, perhaps it's combined by ESOC
<egg|zzz|egg> ... no literally everyone who emits SP3-b seems to do that
<egg|zzz|egg> BKG, ESOC, IGS
<egg|zzz|egg> MCC fucks up differently by producing something that's in between SP3-a and SP3-b
<bofh> egg|zzz|egg: LOL
<bofh> egg|zzz|egg: how does literally *nobody* produce compliant files?
<egg|zzz|egg> idk
<egg|zzz|egg> I think CODE files might be OK
<egg|zzz|egg> and SP3-c ESOC files
<egg|zzz|egg> SP3-b didn't last long, so there's less of it
<egg|zzz|egg> possibly none compliant
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: nevermind, by GPS week 1400, MCC has woken up and started emitting b files, which do not have the same nonconformance as the others
<egg|zzz|egg> they could even be conformant?
<egg|zzz|egg> who knows
<egg|zzz|egg> !acr -add:РКА Российское Космическое Агентство
<galois> Definition added!
<egg|zzz|egg> Rossiïskoïé kosmitcheskoïé aguentstvo
<egg|zzz|egg> whitequark: transliteration ^
<egg|zzz|egg> !acr -add:ЛОАЦ Лазерный Операционно-Аналитический Центр
<galois> Definition added!
<egg|zzz|egg> !acr -add:ЦУП Центр Управления Полётами
<galois> Definition added!
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<egg|laptop|egg> !acr -add:IAC Information and Analysis Center
<galois> Definition added!
<egg|laptop|egg> !acr -add:ИАЦ Информационно-Аналитический Центр
<galois> ...
<bofh> 17:03:37 <@egg|zzz|egg> possibly none compliant 17:09:38 <@egg|zzz|egg> bofh: nevermind, by GPS week 1400, MCC has woken up and started emitting b files, which do not have the same
<bofh> nonconformance as the others ...
<bofh> ... 17:09:54 <@egg|zzz|egg> they could even be conformant?
<bofh> LOL
<egg|laptop|egg> bofh: can you help me with some russian
<egg|laptop|egg> bofh: орбиты КА ГЛОНАСС в формате SP3, полученные в ЛОАЦ ЦУП, does that mean that it's the ЦУП of the ЛОАЦ or the ЛОАЦ of the ЦУП or what
<bofh> ЦУП of the ЛОАЦ I'd expect
<egg|laptop|egg> yeah I guess that's the only thing that makes sense
<egg|laptop|egg> bofh: also how cursed is a table of satellites with the header Рос.ном. | Межд.ном. | Имя КА
<egg|laptop|egg> !acr -add:КА Космический Аппарат
<galois> Definition added!
<bofh> I'm mostly confused what the hell is the last column for
<bofh> Oh
<bofh> That
<bofh> Baseline cursèd, I'd say.
<egg|laptop|egg> e.g. 904 7501001 STARLETT
<egg|laptop|egg> (note, that should be STARLETTE)
<egg|laptop|egg> STARLETTE?
<galois> STARLETTE: Satellite de Taille Adaptée avec Réflecteurs Laser pour les ÉTudes de la TErre
<egg|laptop|egg> :-p
<egg|laptop|egg> 232 8903903 ЭТАЛОН-2
<egg|laptop|egg> bofh: random transliteration
<egg|laptop|egg> oh wait no, those are russian sats
<egg|laptop|egg> I thought they were american for some reason
<egg|laptop|egg> so it really is ЭТАЛОН
<egg|laptop|egg> bofh: that table is from Уточнение параметров вращения Земли по результатам оперативной дальнометрии мировой сети станций
<egg|laptop|egg> bofh: yup, mcc14000.sp3 is at least conformant enough that I don't choke on it
<bofh> "at least conformant enough that I can parse it" feels like it should be a pretty low bar, and yet...
<egg|laptop|egg> NGA?
<galois> NGA: National Geospatial-intelligence Agency
<egg|laptop|egg> bofh: well, I could write my parser differently and parse most of the others
<egg|laptop|egg> I wrote it against the SP3-d spec, which naturally leads to using the first two columns to determine the kind of record you're looking at
<egg|laptop|egg> which means that if you fuck those columns up my parser is unhappy
<egg|laptop|egg> bofh: if you write a parser for SP3-c and especially SP3-b or a, you would tend to base things on line indices, which is robust to fucking up these characters
<galois> title: Principia/standard_product_3.cpp at f4413fb805c2522b849d7466fe201decf73a3ece · mockingbirdnest/Principia · GitHub
<egg|laptop|egg> !acr -add:CGS Centro di Geodesia Spaziale
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<galois> title: Melina🏳️‍🌈 on Twitter: "#Luhman16 Third closest known system to our solar system and closest brown dwarf system.HST F606W, color: MUSE (blue: 4754nm, green: 5325nm, red: 6825nm)Image credit: NASA/ESA Hubble space telescope + ESO MUSE… https://t.co/8Ja1Y00Ses"
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