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<blowfish> Installed VS 2017 ... time to try it out
<xShadowx> i got annoyed with it quickly (admittedly not giving it a chance)
<xShadowx> one night was pissed off at stuff (unrelated) and went to make a new project in vs2017 to destress, only options it gave me were to make a blank project for win10
* xShadowx stabs vs
<blowfish> I don't see any huge differences yet
<blowfish> I see the option for a new class library
<blowfish> not sure what the difference between .net standard and .net framework is though
<xShadowx> i wanted to make an exe app :P
<xShadowx> just not for win10 o.o
<xShadowx> if you run into how feel free to share <3
<blowfish> I see "Blank App (Universal Windows)"
<xShadowx> ya
<xShadowx> click it
<xShadowx> itll say choose windows version
<xShadowx> only allow win10 rofl
<blowfish> oh yeah I guess
<xShadowx> unless choosing win10, it still allows to work on win7 etc
<blowfish> ah well, I should really upgrade to win10
* xShadowx is staying win7
<blowfish> not like I have a legitimate reason not to upgrade, just that I haven't bothered yet
<xShadowx> win8 and thus win10 removed libraries and support for alot of older stuff
<blowfish> I don't think I have a whole lot of olderstuff
<blowfish> older stuff
<xShadowx> so if i goto win10 its going to kill half my software library :(
<blowfish> software library == software i haven't opened in 5 years
<xShadowx> in other legit reasons category, M$ was selling your info if you used win10, now you know where M$ got money for a free OS :P
<blowfish> my copy of windows 7 is teh pirated anyway, so no free win10 for me
<xShadowx> uh
<blowfish> in my defense, I didn't exactly have income when I built this computer
<xShadowx> dunno about now, but win10 was free regardless
<blowfish> no, you had to have a registered copy
<xShadowx> o.O
<blowfish> anyway, regardless of what I think of Windows in general, I've used Windows enough that Microsoft probably deserves some money for it, and I can certainly afford it now
<xShadowx> you sure? i was told many times "go pirate win7 and update to legit win10 free"
<blowfish> I think I tried once and got to a login screen and quit
<xShadowx> i figure i gotta download project templates or somethin to get blank projects that vs2015 had
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<blowfish> anyway I'm not too concerned with privacy. As it is advertisers don't seem to have a clue who I actually am
<xShadowx> lolz
<blowfish> As a young, straight man, I get ads for bras, gay cruises, and viagra
<xShadowx> my mom is the tin foil hat paranoid type
<xShadowx> thinks TVs all have cameras and manufacturers sell access to spy on you
<xShadowx> im the other end of the stick, if they gotta watch me to get their rocks off, just admit it, il wave my flag
<blowfish> the thing that makes me not care is that there are just too many people for advertisers or whoever else to care individually about anyone
<blowfish> yes, your data will be collected and used by nebulous algorithms to generate targeted ads for you
<xShadowx> what makes me not care, is regardless of how paranoid you are, once it leaves the walls of your house, google etc see all the data you send anyways
<blowfish> but no actual person at any step of the process is going to be looking at your data because they are probably collecting data on thoudsands of times more people than actually work at that company
<blowfish> there are unsettling stories though, like an advertising algorithm figuring out that a woman was pregnant before she knew based on her buying habits
<xShadowx> that should win a prize
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<blowfish> ugh, why does EditorExtensions keep getting into exception spam state?
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<xShadowx> why does kerbal gender enum have male, and female, but nothing else?