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* Thomas installs VS 2017
<xShadowx> 2017 is out?
<pizzaoverhead> Thomas: How is it?
<pizzaoverhead> xShadowx: Yep, last week.
<xShadowx> did it cause your first born to die?
<xShadowx> did you go blind?
<Thomas> I dont know. Gonna uninstall VS 2015 first, which will take about 3 hours (based on my previous experiences with my VS setup)
<xShadowx> im still tryin to learn the new stuff in 2015 :( lol
<Thomas> But I like the new installer
<Sarbian> You can have both installed
<xShadowx> 1) why uninstall? 2) 3 hr? haha o.o
<Thomas> I know, but when I tried that with 13 and 15, I messed everything up
<Thomas> so nope, thanks
* xShadowx has 13 and 15
<Sarbian> I hoped 2017 would bring most of what I love in resharper but in the end it lacks some of the UI touch that R# bring :(
<Sarbian> Unless there are well hidden options I missed
<Sarbian> (maybe not that hidden, I did not spent hours in the conf)
<Thomas> Theese well hidden options are probably called "install resharper"?
* xShadowx looks for 2017
<Sarbian> What I did not like is that he minimalist install did not work nice and I had to install more desktop component to have my KSP workflow work properly
<Sarbian> Thomas: that s what I did in the end but it s kinda sad. Maybe an other free plugin will bring the love
<Sarbian> I wanted to do a code for KSP with the new VS2017 goodies post
<Sarbian> I wanted to do a "code for KSP with the new VS2017 goodies" post
* xShadowx would like that
<Thomas> I want tuples in KSP but I doubt they will work with .NET Stonage err 3.5
* xShadowx wonders why Sarbian didn't make one for 2015 now ;3
<Sarbian> I ll submit my plea to to reddit
<Sarbian> Thomas: they do, you just have to add a dll
<Sarbian> one packaged in a nuget whose name I forgot
<Sarbian> (I did not try in KSP)
<Sarbian> I am considering moving my mods to C# 7
<Sarbian> Thomas: System.ValueTuple
<Thomas> When I moved my stuff to C#6, I got pull requests who moved them back to 5, because the users couldnt compile it and wondered what I must have smoked to write stuff like "Ocean => GetOcean();" :D
<Sarbian> Yep, I am have similar concerns. And some MJ contributors code on other OS and that require some (not that hard IMHO) work for them
<Sarbian> After all if you do .NET on linux you should be able to upgrade your mono
* Sarbian shoots whiners who can't do shit on their Ubuntu
* Thomas wonders when the first user will try to develop ksp mods with .net core
<Sarbian> I wonder if it works at all.
<Thomas> No, .NET core cant reference non-nuget dlls last time I checked
<Thomas> And I doubt that it supports .net 3
<Sarbian> My main problem with moving to C#7 currently is that the compiler does not work on Linux like the old one
<Sarbian> I saw the bug fix in their github but I am not really in the mood to build a new compiler for my jenkins...
<Sarbian> (there is a wrong check somewhere and the compiler uses \ instead of / for file names)
<Sarbian> xShadowx: I did not do one for VS 15 because the code refactoring and analyzer in VS 2015 is not that impressive.
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<Sarbian> Stupid me who reboots the server hosting the bouncer
<Thomas> At some point I should really take the time to experiment with roslyn code rewriting. Looks like you can do really funny stuff with that :D
<Sarbian> the few simple refactor like for <=> foreach are all that I need
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<Thomas> heh
<Sarbian> but R# brings so much more...
<Sarbian> Their early access version are free to try by the way
<GreeningGalaxy> Arr Sharp?
* GreeningGalaxy can't find that on her piano
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<Thomas> Neat, even though I made the experience that all those "roslyn refactoring" packages were junk in vs 2015
<Sarbian> This one is fine
* Thomas bookmarks
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<Sarbian> (this was expensive in the past but is now free for the community edition)
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<egg> sarbut sarbian
<Sarbian> Holla egg
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<Djohaal_> does anyone understand how the hell the efficiency bonus on the kolonization agriculture modules (not cultivate) works?
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