UmbralRaptor changed the topic of #principia to: READ THE FAQ: http://goo.gl/gMZF9H; The current version is Darboux. We currently target 1.3.1, and 1.4.3. <scott_manley> anyone that doubts the wisdom of retrograde bop needs to get the hell out | https://xkcd.com/323/
<awang> I'm kind of surprised you can still get away with playing KSP on a 32-bit computer
<GurrenLagannCWP> Lucky me
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<awang> Wait, does KSP 1.4 still support 32-bit?
<egg|trappist|egg> no
<egg|trappist|egg> wait KSP?
<egg|trappist|egg> I don't know
<egg|trappist|egg> principia doesn't
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<GH> [Principia] pleroy opened pull request #1844: Dynamic analysis of the Trappist-1 system (master...FinalTrappist) https://git.io/vhEk9
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<GH> [Principia] pleroy commented on issue #1844: retest this please https://git.io/vhEYD
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<GH> [Principia] pleroy commented on issue #1844: retest this please https://git.io/vhEOT
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<GregroxMun> o/
<GregroxMun> egg
<egg|zzz|egg> meow
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn GregroxMun
* Qboid gives GregroxMun a panzer equality/nabla hybrid
<GregroxMun> Can I see the configs you're using to modify SLIPPIST-1?
<GregroxMun> oh yeay
<GregroxMun> yay*
<GregroxMun> I haven't used a qboid weapon in over half a year
<egg|zzz|egg> GregroxMun: we haven't written them yet
<GregroxMun> oh
<GregroxMun> well
<egg|zzz|egg> but structurally, it's something like
<egg|zzz|egg> @Kopernicus:FOR[Principia]:AFTER[aSLIPPIST-1] {
<egg|zzz|egg> @Properties {
<egg|zzz|egg> @cbNameLater = TRAPPIST-1
<egg|zzz|egg> @Body[Sun] {
<egg|zzz|egg> %gravParameter = <0.89 solar masses> etc.
<GregroxMun> right
<egg|zzz|egg> not sure why you called your thing aSLIPPIST-1
<egg|zzz|egg> but well now you can't rename it because that would break our :AFTER :-p
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<GregroxMun> I do that for Sigma Dimensions compatibility, at one point (maybe still true) SD couldn't overwrite anything after "SIGMA" or something like that.
<egg|zzz|egg> ...
* egg|zzz|egg palms face
<egg|zzz|egg> Fun
<GregroxMun> the actual reason is a superstitious fear of low letters :P
<GregroxMun> are you using a full scale TRAPPIST-1?
<egg|zzz|egg> yup
<egg|zzz|egg> we're using the real deal, fitted to the real observations with our own optimization code
<egg|zzz|egg> which seems to fit as well or better than what the authors of "The nature of the TRAPPIST-1 exoplanets" are using :-p
<egg|zzz|egg> (we'll see what happens when we try randomly distributed small Ω rather than Ω = 0, there is some tuning to do
<GregroxMun> Ω = ?
<egg|zzz|egg> longitude of ascending node
<GregroxMun> right
<egg|zzz|egg> ω = argument of periapsis, M = mean anomaly
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<egg|zzz|egg> (note that the convention in transit exoplanetology is that the reference plane is the plane of the sky (viewed from Earth), not the plane of the system
<egg|zzz|egg> so all inclinations are close to 90 degrees
<egg|zzz|egg> and all Ωs are very close together
<GregroxMun> right, I think I discovered that in Space Engine
<egg|zzz|egg> there's a practical reason for that
<GregroxMun> are you setting it up as a destination star or will it remain the starting system?
<egg|zzz|egg> it will be the starting system
<egg|zzz|egg> it will be a fun system to be in on its own
<GregroxMun> oh yes
<egg|zzz|egg> you are on an Earth-sized planet which is speeding along at absurd speeds
<egg|zzz|egg> I strongly recommend using RO if you want to go anywhere :-p
<GregroxMun> I was tempted to give Echo a moon so you'd have an easier way of refueling in orbit
<egg|zzz|egg> aiui any moons are unstable there
<egg|zzz|egg> (I mean, it's crowded)
<GregroxMun> I'm aware
<egg|zzz|egg> nah, it's just RSS hardmode :D
<GregroxMun> No moon, huge interplanetary delta-v
<GregroxMun> I remember someone thought TRAPPIST-1 would be a great hybrid of RSS and Kerbol
<egg|zzz|egg> going to Jupiter is too easy, go to TRAPPIST-1b and TRAPPIST-1h :D
<GregroxMun> they made a post on the reddit
<GregroxMun> they thought the delta-v would be lower because of the smaller scale
<egg|zzz|egg> hahahha
<GregroxMun> but no it's just way worse
<egg|zzz|egg> so fast
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<GregroxMun> and we can put that paper about interstellar missions launched from red dwarf planets to the test
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