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egg|zzz|egg: I'll redirect this as soon as they are around.
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!tell gregroxmun this also uses EVE? I see clouds; if it uses it, can you send me the latest version so I can check whether there are things I need to rescale on that side too?
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egg|zzz|egg: I'll redirect this as soon as they are around.
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<egg|zzz|egg>
maccollo: have you tried TRAPPIST-1?
<maccollo>
I've been reprogramming my rocket ascent autopilot
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<maccollo>
last year I did it in python... but then I realized python is slow a shit =(
<egg|zzz|egg>
probably fast enough for KSP purposes tbh, unless you do something weird
<maccollo>
my method could probably be improved
<maccollo>
I just simulate the rocket's path from the pad to orbit
<egg|zzz|egg>
have you talked to lamont?
<maccollo>
I don't think so
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<maccollo>
not unless he goes by a different name elsewhere =P
<maccollo>
my python script would figure out a path to orbit in about 10 seconds, so I figure that if I do it in a static language + use a better integration method I can get that down to something tolerable
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<GregroxMun>
o/
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GregroxMun: egg|zzz|egg left a message for you in #principia [19.06.2018 07:27:20]: "this looks nice https://imgur.com/gallery/FQHpnE6"
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GregroxMun: egg|zzz|egg left a message for you in #principia [19.06.2018 07:31:24]: "this also uses EVE? I see clouds; if it uses it, can you send me the latest version so I can check whether there are things I need to rescale on that side too?"
<GregroxMun>
I am using EVE, yes
<GregroxMun>
I'm not done with the EVE configs
<GregroxMun>
I still need to make them compatible with the Exoplanet config
<GregroxMun>
You shouldn't need to rescale anything, clouds are spawned based upon altitude
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<GregroxMun>
I once tried to get USS to work in principia
<GregroxMun>
before the custom integrator settings
<egg|zzz|egg>
uss?
<GregroxMun>
ultimate solar system
<egg|zzz|egg>
GregroxMun: well if clouds are based on altitude I need to rescale, I make the atmospheres bigger
<GregroxMun>
well I
<GregroxMun>
I will
<GregroxMun>
damn it
<egg|zzz|egg>
if you can throw the current state at me I can write patches to rescale
<GregroxMun>
I will send you the cloud patch when I have one
<GregroxMun>
right now it is very much just hacked together
<egg|zzz|egg>
(since it's MM arithmetic it doesn't matter if you change your mind about the altitudes later on, I'll just *= 2 :AFTER[aSLIPPIST-1])
<GregroxMun>
ah
<egg|zzz|egg>
(please don't do anything :AFTER[aSLIPPIST-1] yourself though, because that prevents me from coming after you :-))
<GregroxMun>
I'm reasonably certain I have to in some places
<egg|zzz|egg>
why can't you get away with :FOR and :BEFORE?
<egg|zzz|egg>
you should never have patches :AFTER your own mod
<GregroxMun>
I will see
<egg|zzz|egg>
GregroxMun: well, as long as you don't have anything that resembles a length/distance/altitude or CelestialBody name reference in the AFTER patches I don't care
<egg|zzz|egg>
GregroxMun: one problem is the planetsList.cfg with its celestialBodyName, because we need to patch that
<egg|zzz|egg>
(in the scatterer configs)
<GregroxMun>
Why do you need to use cbNameLater anyway?
<GregroxMun>
instead of displayName
<egg|zzz|egg>
there are things that surface the cb name in Principia (we shouldn't but that's hard to change), also our configs should not mention Kerbin in non-stock systems
<egg|zzz|egg>
we'd like our astronomy configs about TRAPPIST-1 to keep saying TRAPPIST-1
<egg|zzz|egg>
since they basically have nothing to do with KSP anyway
<egg|zzz|egg>
and having plumbing to work around that is messy
<egg|zzz|egg>
GregroxMun: and anyway it's not just cbNameLater, the other planets get actually-renamed
<egg|zzz|egg>
(bcdfgh)
<GregroxMun>
right
<egg|zzz|egg>
which means we need to patch celestialBodyName in the scatterer config, which means we need to run after it, which means it shouldn't run in :AFTER
<egg|zzz|egg>
why does it use AFTER anyway?
<egg|zzz|egg>
it doesn't seem to refer to anything that happens in :FOR
<GregroxMun>
you're righty
<GregroxMun>
right
<egg|zzz|egg>
so it could be :FOR itself, and then we can come :AFTER it
<egg|zzz|egg>
(my sentences now use ModuleManager syntax help)
<GregroxMun>
I AM GOING TO DESTROY SCATTERER I SWEAR TO GOD
<GregroxMun>
It's flickering
<GregroxMun>
it always does shit like this
<egg|zzz|egg>
!pet GregroxMun
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pets GregroxMun
<GregroxMun>
!wpn GregroxMun
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gives GregroxMun a saker
<GregroxMun>
!wpn GregroxMun
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<GregroxMun>
!wpn GregroxMun
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gives GregroxMun a mine
<GregroxMun>
A PLANT A MINE ON MYSELF SO YOU CAN NO LONGER PET ME!
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!meow GregroxMun
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meows at GregroxMun
<egg|zzz|egg>
GregroxMun: is transformName in that config the same as the CB name?
<GregroxMun>
I think it is
<GregroxMun>
I'm not sure
<egg|zzz|egg>
works for me :-p
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GregroxMun: anyway, please send me your working copy with the EVE configs when you have a minute so I can update my patches to rescale the clouds as appropriate
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<egg|zzz|egg>
(and generally check that everything works)
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<egg|zzz|egg>
GregroxMun: the Scatterer config you sent me last time has "hasOcean" set to True for b and c, did you fix that?