05:19 <discord-> B​ricklet ☭🧱. — @Damien what do you call a full masochism install

05:31 <discord-> A​cer_Saccharum. — I'd call it ROKerbalism, Principia, RealAntennas, TestFlight, RP-1 (whichever flavor is hardest)

06:08 <discord-> D​amien. — @Bricklet ☭🧱 RSSRORP1PrincipiaROKerbalismRealAntennaTestlite/Testflight

06:08 <discord-> D​amien. — Just all the realism mods really

06:43 <discord-> E​strelaGaliza. — even harder adding RT delay

07:23 <discord-> S​ir Mortimer. — MandatoryRCS. I don’t know if you RO guys already nerfed reaction wheels...

07:25 <discord-> D​amien. — They're late game tech

07:25 <discord-> D​amien. — Early tech has none

07:25 <discord-> S​ir Mortimer. — @EstrelaGaliza I’d dump RT. The delay only makes it unplayable beyond moon. If you want to do it somewhat realistically, get kOS and control your probes exclusively that way.

07:25 <discord-> D​amien. — Yeah most people are ditching it now for RA

07:25 <discord-> D​amien. — performance issues

07:31 <discord-> S​ir Mortimer. — Kerbalism will display a warning if you have it installed.

07:32 <discord-> S​ir Mortimer. — I'll probably get some flak for that on the forum, but I don't care. I grew to dislike RT quite a bit.

08:46 <discord-> E​strelaGaliza. — Never realized about RT performance issues.

08:46 <discord-> E​strelaGaliza. — But it doesnt make the game unplayable. You can always use remotetech console to execute maneuver nodes. You can even execute finite duration burns with RT+Principia.

08:46 <discord-> E​strelaGaliza. —

08:46 <discord-> E​strelaGaliza. — The only situation I feel im cheating with RT is aerobraking. I use to manually control RT console at real time when aerobraking. Im trying to learns kOS basics to solve it.

09:21 <discord-> D​amien. — I personally liked RT (the flight computer mainly) but I get why it's being moved away from

09:21 <discord-> D​amien. — if I could get the RT flight computer as its own mod I would

09:21 <discord-> D​amien. — delayed commands etc is so useful

09:34 <discord-> K​enira. — i'm having a lot more fun since i ditched antenna mods altogether, it's just unfun having to choose between being limited, or using kOS and spending 10x as much time developing code for everything imo. same result and i'm just using time if i just remove the limitations to begin with

09:34 <discord-> K​enira. — i'm having a lot more fun since i ditched antenna mods altogether, it's just unfun having to choose between being limited, or using kOS and spending 10x as much time developing code for everything imo. same result and i'm just saving time if i just remove the limitations to begin with (edited)

12:38 <discord-> D​RVeyl. — Huh. I'm not at all offended by folks that prefer RT or RO-NewComms. But wanting to ditch the entire concept of a comms system bothers me!

12:40 <discord-> D​RVeyl. — I'm off topic, good thing I'm in the offtopic channel!

12:51 <discord-> D​amien. — @Kenira nothing wrong with that. add your difficulty/realism where it adds to the fun instead of grind

12:52 <discord-> D​amien. — I'd say nocomms & principia is more challenging than RT/RA and patched conics for example

12:52 <discord-> K​enira. — well, as long as there are no comms mods that handle it in the way i want...

12:52 <discord-> K​enira. — although i will give RA a try anyway when i next start a game, but RT at least was simply not working out for me

13:25 <discord-> l​pg. — with the proper settings, RA limits very very little. having no link home basically just means not being able to transmit science, and not being able to do manual rcs

13:26 <discord-> K​enira. — latter one is also dealbreaker for me

13:41 <discord-> D​RVeyl. — (MJ RCS should work, tho. MJ cheats.)

13:42 <discord-> D​RVeyl. — Also, RA is just the stock limitations.

13:43 <discord-> K​enira. — well, i play with commnet disabled altogether right now

13:44 <discord-> l​pg. — it's funny how lack of comms means you get rotational rcs but not translational, while lack of avionics means the opposite

13:44 <discord-> s​iimav. — ROKerbalism is definitely going to require a comms mod, right? Would it even be able to transmit science without one?

13:44 <discord-> l​pg. — I would think 'commnet disabled' gets treated as 'always have a connection' (by the stock game, that is)

13:53 <discord-> S​ir Mortimer. — Yep

15:33 <discord-> e​gg. — @Sir Mortimer thinking about that satellite contracts thing, I forget whether we had come to a useful conclusion on the matter of telescopes

16:23 <discord-> S​ir Mortimer. — no, I think it still was pretty much up in the air

17:48 <discord-> D​RVeyl. — So.... Possibly a requirement for configurable control over control locks from comms, it seems.

21:48 <discord-> D​RVeyl. — Also I think it was the opposite, @lpg, the locks for comms outage take yaw/pitch/roll

21:50 <discord-> l​pg. — no. they disable _all_ manual rcs

21:50 <discord-> l​pg. — but smarta.s.s. ignores comms, giving you back orientation control

21:51 <discord-> l​pg. — (come to think of it there might be a MJ module to give back translation too. there's a whole lot of MJ I don't use)

21:54 <discord-> D​RVeyl. — Ok, lack of comms doesn't give rotational control, it locks it, but MJ hax give it back.

23:08 <discord-> K​enira. — *purple noodle gang*

23:08 <discord-> K​enira. — https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/480397772248580098/631266706781634609/unknown.png