egg changed the topic of #principia to: Logs: https://esper.irclog.whitequark.org/principia | <scott_manley> anyone that doubts the wisdom of retrograde bop needs to get the hell out | https://xkcd.com/323/ | <egg> calculating the influence of lamont on Pluto is a bit silly…
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<kellpossible> Hi I'm on Archlinux tryping to build Principia, but having some problems. I
<kellpossible> I'm guessing I need to build the "adapter" target?
<kellpossible> I've tried just running make, but I get a couple of failing tests
<kellpossible> It seems to be having trouble finding the assemblies, I'm not sure if I have them in the right directory and how it knows what version to look for
<kellpossible> I've put a symbolic link to them in "KSP Assemblies/1.11.2"
<discord-> A​l2Me6. — I might be wrong, but it looks like the folder needs to be `1.11.0` instead? https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/blob/master/ksp_plugin_adapter/ksp_plugin_adapter.csproj#L66-L104
<kellpossible> @discord- thanks, I'll try that!
<discord-> n​9gaming. — I've encountered this, going to experiment with different methods of far-in-the-future interplanetary planning - probably just not zooming in until much closer. It'll be less of an exact science, but the unknowns involved make it sort of exciting idk!
<discord-> n​9gaming. — I had wondered if a feature allowing the user to "hide" particular trajectories at will but honestly I wouldn't begin to know how impossible that would be to implement 😛
<kellpossible> ooh it seems to have worked! Additionally I had to make a bunch of little tweaks to make it compile on presumeably what is my newer version of clang
<discord-> n​9gaming. — I had wondered if a feature allowing the user to "hide" particular trajectories at will is possible to make, but honestly I wouldn't begin to know how impossible that would be to implement 😛 (edited)
<kellpossible> Is there a way to reduce the length of the current trajectory display?
<kellpossible> This is so cool!
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<discord-> A​shnoom. — Principia has its own logs in the ksp game for. See the Principia FAQ on GitHub
<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — Yeah I saw your frustrations a while earlier in this discord
<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — It's really gameplay breaking
<discord-> K​obymaru. — I know, i posted one of those logs above
<discord-> A​shnoom. — Ah, sorry didn't notice. :-)
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<discord-> e​gg. — yeah, we should probably update that
<discord-> e​gg. — (in fact perhaps we should automate the whole « bump the KSP version up » dance…)
<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — ah
<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — haven't done this in a while
<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — kinda fun to do
<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — I just wanted to test if I got my physics exam question correct
<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — lol
<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — the ratio between the distances of the bodies should be about 9.0
<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — (it's not lol)
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<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — maybe the question was too oversimplified
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<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — oh wait, I just switched it to L2 and now its a lot closer to 9.0
<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — I was analysing some possible halo orbits
<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — there is one that might work for pluto and charon
<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — I am just wondering if the (halo) orbit itself will be smaller or bigger, considering the distance between the 2 bodies is relatively closer
<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — Seems bigger
<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — its so cool, from that point Pluto and Charon seem to have the same size
<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — also L4 and L5 are huge
<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — also the L4 and L5 halo orbits are huge (edited)
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<_whitenotifier-edb> [Principia] pleroy pushed 6 commits to Grassmannian [+0/-0/±10] https://git.io/JOE45
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<_whitenotifier-edb> [Principia] pleroy closed pull request #2949: Improve ContinuousTrajectory checkpointing - https://git.io/JOEEv
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<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — I am wondering, would barycentric reference frame be usefull for binary systems?
<raptop> apropros nothing, MRO and Mars Odyssy are in sun-synchronous orbits (which feels relevant for egg's ongoing mission design considerations)
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<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — hmm
<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — any other suggestions for a tutorial series
<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — any other suggestions for a tutorial series? (edited)
<discord-> Z​eusbeer. — I put the Lagrange points at the lowest priority because of a somewhat usable tutorial already existing
<discord-> M​arsu. — Nice !
<discord-> e​gg. — I would argue that in terms of complexity GEO is harder than L4 and L5 (it certainly is more common IRL admittedly; then again the reasons for that are not applicable to KSP as it stands)
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<discord-> A​l2Me6. — Maybe an off-plane transfer to the Moon (eg. from Baikonur) or a Venus-Mercury assist?