ferram4 changed the topic of #RO to: Welcome to the discussion channel for the Realism Overhaul (meta)mod for KSP! Realism Overhaul Main Thread https://goo.gl/wH7Dzb ! RO Spreadsheet http://goo.gl/Oem3g0 ! Code of Conduct http://goo.gl/wOSv2M ! | Maximal & soundnfury's RP-1 Race Into Space Signup: http://bit.ly/2DEVm2i [15:01] <soundnfury> Straight Eight Stronk (and) RP-0/1 is basically "Space Agency Spreadsheet Simulator"
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<github> RealismOverhaul/master a370a8a Dan Paplaczyk: Renamed the Configurations for the RD701 and RD704...
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<github> [RP-0] mattwrobel opened pull request #1007: A number of requested changes and improvements to parts. (master...no_resource_cost_mult_tags) https://git.io/fhDWO
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<github> RP-0/master 8d7830d Matt: A number of requested changes and improvements to parts. (#1007)...
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<github> RP-0/master 4954206 Dan Paplaczyk: [TECH TREE] Moved around the RCS and Docking Nodes in the 1965 to 1968 Era...
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<github> RP-0/master a5b15c7 NathanKell: Fix duplicate Gemini avionics
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<darsie> Is it a bug or a feature that orbit lines are shown behind planets? Can I turn it off? http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot39.png
<darsie> It works when I focus a ship and zoom in.
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<darsie> hey
<darsie> Is 49 kg too much for lunar reentry with a 0.625 m heat shield? Below 100 km Ap it explodes. http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot43.png
<darsie> Is the pod too close to the heat shield edge?
<darsie> Should I put some thermal insulation between the shield and the pod?
<darsie> The chute skin also gets very hot. It should be out of the air stream.
<darsie> ^ That's a 96 km Ap.
<darsie> At 100 km there is very little aerobreaking. I'd have to make many passes to land like that.
<darsie> How does the chute skin get 1400 K sitting on a 900 K pod?
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<github> RP-0/master 978be53 Dan Paplaczyk: Added Icon for Life Support Resources to Crew Survivability
<github> RP-0/master fb8745c Dan Paplaczyk: Merge branch 'master' of https://github.com/KSP-RO/RP-0
<github> RP-0/master 78ce5c0 Dan Paplaczyk: Moved the old Deprecated Procedural Parts Tank to ORPHANS
<github> [RP-0] leudaimon opened pull request #1008: Correct altitude title in the mission parameter (master...patch-5) https://git.io/fhDAE
<github> [RP-0] pap1723 closed pull request #1008: Correct altitude title in the mission parameter (master...patch-5) https://git.io/fhDAE
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<github> RP-0/master 3df4a1c leudaimon: Correct altitude title in the mission parameter (#1008)
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<github> [RP-0] leudaimon opened pull request #1009: Fix altitude title also in SR intermediate (master...patch-6) https://git.io/fhDpF
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<github> RP-0/master e327b50 leudaimon: Fix altitude title also in SR intermediate (#1009)
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<darsie> .
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<github> RP-0/master f3c4365 siimav: Fixed sln file
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* darsie still doesn't know how to make a lunar reentry.
<stratochief> How so?
<stratochief> Lifting capsule makes it possible. Off centre CoM
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<github> RP-0/master 4c3cd58 siimav: Change OutputPath for the other 2 projects
<darsie> Is 49 kg too much for lunar reentry with a 0.625 m heat shield? Below 100 km Ap it explodes. http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot43.png
<darsie> Is the pod too close to the heat shield edge?
<darsie> Should I put some thermal insulation between the shield and the pod?
<darsie> The chute skin also gets very hot. It should be out of the air stream.
<darsie> ^ That's a 96 km Ap.
<darsie> At 100 km there is very little aerobreaking. I'd have to make many passes to land like that.
<darsie> How does the chute skin get 1400 K sitting on a 900 K pod?
<darsie> So I need lifting reentry?
<stratochief> Might be close, although if you're coming in ballistic, maybe not.
<stratochief> What part(s) explode on re-entry, and at what altitude?
<darsie> I could try a larger shield.
<stratochief> I wouldn't expect the chute to get that hot if it's not exposed, could be weird heat capacity
<stratochief> Lifting reentry helps with g forces, and spreading the heating out over a longer period. But it sounds like that might not be your problem
<darsie> Altitude depends on reentry angle. The pod explodes first, usually, chute and antenna, too.
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<github> RP-0/master 1f70998 siimav: Added default gitattributes file
<darsie> The shield survives often.
<darsie> At low speed it often gets a strong g-force kick.
<darsie> Heat is definitely the problem.
<darsie> I guess.
<darsie> Stuff gets hot.
<darsie> I've broken shields with acceleration, too.
<darsie> IMO the heat shield should shield from the heat.
<darsie> here http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot40.png stuff explodes at 98 km.
<darsie> shallow reentry.
<darsie> 100 km Pe is survivable, but does very little aerobraking.
<darsie> And my lander is not designed to reorient retrograde repeatedly.
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<github> RP-0/master 80ae554 siimav: Got the OutputPaths wrong for 3 projects because these are located in a subfolder
<darsie> I'll do a 60 km Pe reentry and tell you the explosion altitude ...
<darsie> 94 km. First the chute, then pod, then antenna.
<darsie> At 42 km the speed dropped from 400 m/s to 20 m/s almost instantly. Before the acceleration peaked slowly at 15 g and went down to 4 g or so.
<darsie> This was only with the shield left.
<stratochief> Odd for the other parts to heat above the temp of the shield, I think. I do know there are lunar rated heat shields and ones only rated for return from orbit
<stratochief> To be honest, I don't know if I've ever tried to return an uncrewed thing from lunar speed
<darsie> gn
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