UmbralRaptor changed the topic of #kspacademia to: https://gist.github.com/pdn4kd/164b9b85435d87afbec0c3a7e69d3e6d | Dogs are cats. Spiders are cat interferometers. | Космизм сегодня! | Document well, for tomorrow you may get mauled by a ネコバス. | <UmbralRaptor> … one of the other grad students just compared me to nomal O_o | <ferram4> I shall beat my problems to death with an engineer.
<kmath> <masaki_1133> カリン開けてごらん(*≧艸≦) 猫パンチ飛び出すびっくり箱 ʬʬʬ ナイスインのその後です(笑) #カリン #オウム #ベンガル #猫 #猫パンチ #びっくり箱 https://t.co/JVSJTyTTjr
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<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: dinosaur
<egg|zzz|egg> also synapsid
<UmbralRaptor> Silly dinosaur.
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<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: uh
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: so remember about scott making a video mentioning principia
<UmbralRaptor> yes, why>
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: got as many downloads today as in the rest of the month
<egg|zzz|egg> Cauchy now sitting at 695 downloads
<UmbralRaptor> Yay, I hope.
<egg|zzz|egg> nay 698
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: hopefully they'll hear about Cayley though
<UmbralRaptor> Hopefully they won't get confused by retrobop.
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: it's a video about RO + principia
<egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: and RO doesn't have the tiny retrobops of Jupiter
<UmbralRaptor> bah
<egg|zzz|egg> Ꙩ_ꙩ
<UmbralRaptor> o_O
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<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn Snoozee
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<UmbralRaptor> Cat: a liquid with such high surface tension it can be safely stored in a cardboard box.
<UmbralRaptor> o_O
<UmbralRaptor> Microsoft Communism?
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<Technicalfool> http://imgur.com/gallery/ToYSX - so a comment said that if you convert the YSX to lower case you get a nekkid girl. Tried it. Confirmed. And I think Majiir would approve. Though I do wonder how the commenter figured that one out.
<egg|zzz|egg> !tell lamont we got a massive surge in users from Scott's video, so it would be *really* nice if we could get unified macintosh builds in (merging your pull request with the needed changes) by Чебышёв; might also allow us to be ckannable so people know about updates
<Qboid> egg|zzz|egg: I'll redirect this as soon as they are around.
<egg|zzz|egg> !tell lamont arguably they're released every new moon so we could just warn that the lunation is over and that an update exists, but still, unified builds would be good
<Qboid> egg|zzz|egg: I'll redirect this as soon as they are around.
<egg|zzz|egg> !tell lamont I guess that would require some synchronization so that you can actually build the thing at the tag before we zip it all together
<Qboid> egg|zzz|egg: I'll redirect this as soon as they are around.
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn -add:wpn wing
<Qboid> egg|zzz|egg: Weapon already added!
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn Fiora
* Qboid gives Fiora an invalid lemma-like spinlock
<egg|zzz|egg> whitequark: which cat scratched printer
<Technicalfool> tl;dr: posh clothing company gets a bit cheesed off with Kingsman and seeks to correct the world on exactly what an Oxford is, what a Brogue is, and why you can have both.
<egg|zzz|egg> Fiora: what about MATHEMATICAL LEFT ANGLE BRACKET and MATHEMATICAL RIGHT ANGLE BRACKET https://twitter.com/chordbug/status/888294004256911360 ⟨cat|licked|cat⟩
<kmath> <chordbug> delimiters from evil to good: (((this bullshit))) ~*~snowflake mockers~*~ “““scare quotes””” /* C */ 「my stand」 *common emotes* >licks paw<
<bofh> egg|zzz|egg: above common emotes but below >licks paw<, ofc
<egg|zzz|egg> :-p
<Technicalfool> I have never actually seen a furry use >emotes< like that. Maybe I just don't know the right (or wrong) furries.
<Technicalfool> Whereas egg is a mathie. He sexually identifies as a feynman diagram.
<Technicalfool> (might be tricky to adjust the Apache Attack Helicopter copypasta to fit there)
<egg|zzz|egg> Technicalfool: that tweet is a reply to another tweet; apparently Chelsea Manning uses >this delimiter<
<kmath> <xychelsea> ?? ok this is too much ?? thank you ? >hugs< ????? https://t.co/Xm8ok8dAHe
<bofh> ooh, which one? I'm 4-electron coupled cluster ladder excitation term :P
<bofh> (yes I have a fav feynman diagram, quiet y'all :P)
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: hm, I'm not sure TF's statement is accurate though
<egg|zzz|egg> now, Coxeter groups, otoh,
<bofh> :P
<bofh> while we're at it, Penrose Tensor Diagram
<Technicalfool> egg and bofh are Culture minds and treat exquisite math in the same way humans treat pornography. WHoda figured?
<egg|zzz|egg> bofh: thoughts on this reminder? https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/pull/1477
<Qboid> [#1477] title: A lunar reminder to update Principia | Looks like this in-game: ... | https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/issues/1477
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<egg|afk|egg> stabbity, can't find my cell phone
<bofh> egg|afk|egg: sec
<bofh> seems reasonable?
<bofh> and useful
<bofh> would be nice if the lunations were computed into the future tho :P the formula in Meeus is good to a day if you drop all but the first 3 main terms and the perturbation in ascending node
<bofh> and I *think* you might also need the fundamental of the jupiter perturbation to remain accurate for the full iirc 1000 years (also need to periodically precess eochs from J.2000)
<bofh> ofc more terms gives you more precision but they rapidly become pointless IMO.
<bofh> (general rule of Meeus is the first 5-10 terms in an expansion suffice for *most* (but not all!) purposes)
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<egg|phone|egg> bofh: we can't predict release names so that would be of little use
<bofh> you could just say "a new release" :P
<egg|phone|egg> E.g. the sadly newly eligible m release name :-/
<egg|phone|egg> !Wpn bofh
* Qboid gives bofh a non-conforming triangle
<bofh> heh
<egg|phone|egg> Bofh: upcoming this year: Cayley, Чебышёв, Cesàro, Chasles, 陈景润, Chevalley
<egg|phone|egg> Hah my phone typed a full width comma after the cjkv
<egg|phone|egg> !u ,
<Qboid> U+002C COMMA (,)
<egg|phone|egg> Huh
<egg|phone|egg> Or does it just render it differently
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<bofh> Not bad. I approve of that list.
<bofh> !u ,
<Qboid> U+002C COMMA (,)
<bofh> huh.
<bofh> like I'm *positive* that's fullwidth
<bofh> but it copies as normal. <shrug>
<bofh> egg|work|egg: https://guide.alibaba.com/shop/bessel-functions-part-1-functions-of-orders-zero-and-unity-mathematical-tables-volume-vi_37484658.html can Bessel Functions be used in the construction of a building, or perhaps even a hovel?
<bofh> I suppose we could somehow use them to parametrize our family of relevant hyperplanes, but not 100% sure how to do that optimally.
<egg|work|egg> bofh: here it looks the same as the normal one
<egg|work|egg> so I guess it's android rendering commas following CJKV differently
<egg|work|egg> bofh: dunno, I haven't actually worked on (or in? :D) hovels
<egg|work|egg> even buildings
<egg|work|egg> I did encounter some walls
<egg|work|egg> and may have heard about half-apartments
<egg|work|egg> bofh: *oh*, "Home > Machinery > Engineering & Construction Machinery > Construction Machinery Parts" :D :D :D
<egg|work|egg> !wpn whitequark
* Qboid gives whitequark a tin trihexaflexagon
<egg|work|egg> wheee flexagons
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<egg|work|egg> bofh: s/<(.*)>/>$1</
<Qboid> egg|work|egg thinks bofh meant to say: but it copies as normal. >shrug<
<bofh> heh. indeed.
<SnoopJeDi> Any of you happen to be familiar with the axial-gravitational anomaly by any chance?
<SnoopJeDi> Happy hour email is going out and apparently a new publication out of Zurich claims to have observed it (kinda)
<UmbralRaptor> Wait, what? I thought the evidence was iffy?
<UmbralRaptor> half-memory from the fall.
<SnoopJeDi> If I'm understanding right this is the closest thing anybody has *to* evidence: http://www.nature.com/news/big-bang-gravitational-effect-observed-in-lab-crystal-1.22338
<SnoopJeDi> (the paper itself is a technical jargon buffet)
<SnoopJeDi> I mean they definitely aren't directly observing anything relevant, it's an analogous equation
<UmbralRaptor> ah
<SnoopJeDi> but I like to put a blurb about the link I send out, if for no other reason than *I* learn a little something each Friday.
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<kmath> <GalaxyKate> Hot take: I *despise* the Turing Test* I consider it a poison and a contagion on interactive agents and experiences. * as used currently
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<egg|phone|egg> !Wpn UmbralRaptor
* Qboid gives UmbralRaptor a cat harmonic distribution
* egg|phone|egg distributes cats
<kmath> <johnregehr> according to Lazarus if you don't have a PoC you might as well GTFO https://t.co/DCVQ6vUF1M
<UmbralRaptor> cat/1 + cat/2 + cat/3 +…
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<egg> yay more #catcognition posts \o/
<egg> !wpn whitequark
* Qboid gives whitequark a winter surprise sequence
<egg> we should collect them in a journal of cat cognition
<whitequark> !wpn egg
* Qboid gives egg a pounce
<egg> whitequark, котя, et al., J. Cat Cogn., 1, 2017
<egg> wait, is whitequark first author or last author of is it alphabetical
<whitequark> there's actually a paper that has a cat as a coauthor
<egg> oh yes I remember now that you mention it
<UmbralRaptor> Presumably whitequark would be the PI, so last author?
<SnoopJeDi> #catcognition is good topic
<SnoopJeDi> There is a book about the philosophy of Trek called Wrath of Kant.
<egg> UmbralRaptor: dunno how author order works
<egg> UmbralRaptor: in math it's alphabetical always
<egg> so first author means your name is aardvark, last author that it's zythum :-p
<egg> git diff
<SnoopJeDi> My advisor chooses one rule or the other based on reading a crystal orb and also has the atrocious habit of slapping anyone whose name he can remember onto every paper
<whitequark> atrocious?
<SnoopJeDi> I think so
<SnoopJeDi> I mean when I say anyone whose name he can remember I can not exaggerating
<SnoopJeDi> The leading author on an alarming number of our papers has not worked with us on the actual subject matter in several years, but he likes the guy. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<UmbralRaptor> ?
<bofh> UmbralRaptor: why not cat/1 + cat/2 + cat/4 + cat/8 + cat/16 + ...?
<bofh> I mean that's just a complicated way of saying "two cats"
<UmbralRaptor> bofh: that's not a harmonic series, right?
* UmbralRaptor blames egg
<bofh> UmbralRaptor: no, it's just a simple geometric series. whoops, reading/hard/shopping.
<soundnfury> SnoopJeDi: one of my cow-orkers used to be at CERN. His name was on the pentaquark paper despite having (a) not worked on anything to do with pentaquarks (b) having left CERN about a year beforehand
<egg> !wpn UmbralRaptor
* Qboid gives UmbralRaptor a cetacean metal lemma
<SnoopJeDi> soundnfury, yea, CERN's a whole other culture. I guess that's what happens after CMS resets the bar
<SnoopJeDi> And in my advisor's defense, accelerator culture does definitely encourage it: it's just too much information to contain in a small number of people
<SnoopJeDi> *Maybe* you could back in the days of ISR but idk even that is a remarkably complex machine
<egg> UmbralRaptor: cat
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<UmbralRaptor> egg: I saw your album expand to include a floofy cat.
<egg> yup
* egg pets the x axis of the aft ATV ACS
<UmbralRaptor> Iskierka: I'm suddenly reminded of the velociraptor on phl's monitor.
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* Iskierka has not seen this
<Iskierka> I may be getting one of those if there's money left over after the con
<UmbralRaptor> Yay, birbs
* egg|releasing|egg currently at the "have a cup of coffee" step of the release process
<egg|releasing|egg> (without instrumentation it took 10 min, replaying a 6 GiB journal)
<UmbralRaptor> ooh…
<egg|releasing|egg> Fiora: oh wow
<Fiora> so you can buy a very nice soft anomalocaris plushie
<egg|releasing|egg> I bought phl a velociraptor plush a while ago, one of those http://palaeoplushies.indiemade.com/sites/palaeoplushies.indiemade.com/files/p1040697_0.jpg
<egg|releasing|egg> Fiora: um, I guess I should give you some context, namely that phl = pleroy = https://github.com/pleroy = my father
<egg|releasing|egg> also I should introduce myself properly, https://twitter.com/eggleroy/status/838756704401641473
<kmath> <eggleroy> <Majiir> I really am imagining egg just drowning in a sea of papers https://t.co/P2iqkDT7CN
<Fiora> hi. i'm fiora and i'm *squints and smudged writing on hand* a barrel https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBoTUUzVwAA1HJD.jpg
<Fiora> s/and/at/
<Qboid> Fiora meant to say: hi. i'm fiora at i'm *squints and smudged writing on hand* a barrel https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBoTUUzVwAA1HJD.jpg
<Fiora> ..... omg. you have a bot that automatically parses that?
<Fiora> that's amazing. i love it.
<egg|releasing|egg> and Qboid is our resident pet bot and eggspands github references, names Unicode codepoints, eggspands acronyms, and does replacement as you just saw :-)
<Fiora> wait. uh
<egg|releasing|egg> Qboid is Thomas's
<Fiora> it does the *first* "and" in the sentence?
<egg|releasing|egg> it does the logging
<Fiora> not the last?
<Fiora> shouldn't it go backwards?
<SnoopJeDi> it follows POSIX AFAIK
<egg|releasing|egg> it goes forwards, like sed would I think? or vi replacement?
<Fiora> i always parsed s/thing/otherthing/ as hitting the most recent case of 'thing' in the chatlog
<egg|releasing|egg> but it's actually a .NET regex SnoopJeDi :D
<SnoopJeDi> computers are hard.
<egg|releasing|egg> Fiora: it does the most recent matching message, but then forwards in that message
<Fiora> that is WEIRD
<egg|releasing|egg> throw feature requests at Thomas I guess? :D
<SnoopJeDi> ah yea, most bots that have such a feature will do the last message as the string to be searched
<egg|releasing|egg> or pull requests
<SnoopJeDi> I guess you could tell the bot to reverse the search string on whitespace with a trailing flag, but...
<SnoopJeDi> That seems fairly arbitrary :P
<Fiora> it seems weird to be half forward and half backwards!~
<Fiora> https://twitter.com/lakens/status/888408248411443200 on a completely unrelated note,
<kmath> <lakens> If anyone is interested in a paper that shows the importance of pre-registering analyses of open datasets: I found… https://t.co/Bb6Z5eVIZm
<egg|releasing|egg> Fiora: also I make this which I regularly refer to here https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia and apart from that I work in i18n at YouTube
<Fiora> "How Wind Speed Affects Voting Decisions", with p = 0.024.
<egg|releasing|egg> also I studied mathematics, hence the terrible math jokes flying around
<egg|releasing|egg> something something affine hovel something half apartment
<SnoopJeDi> egg|releasing|egg, a friend told a funny yesterday I thought you'd enjoy: "Have you ever heard of the the tragedy of Whitehead & Russel the Mathematicians? I thought not. it is not a story the intuitionists would tell you. It is a formalist legend."
<SnoopJeDi> (in the context of a conversation involving Principia Mathematica)
<egg|releasing|egg> hah
<Fiora> did you hear the story about the classical logicians trying to fit 5 people in a sedan? they kept trying to put the fifth person in the back but nobody would sit in the middle
<Fiora> (they insisted it was against the law)
<SnoopJeDi> I've always been fond of the one about the statistician who goes hunting with two friends. They see a huge buck, and the first friend shoots and misses left. Before the buck runs off, the second shoots and misses right.
<SnoopJeDi> As the buck runs off, the statistician exclaims, "we got him!"
<Fiora> do you know why statisticians are so glad about the obsolescence of CRTs? they've always been nervous about degaussing
<egg|releasing|egg> SnoopJeDi: Principia Mathematica, not to be confused with Newton's Principia [...] Mathematica, much like Éléments de mathématique shouldn't be confused with Euclid's Elements :-p
<SnoopJeDi> Fiora, hah!
<egg|releasing|egg> MaDCoWS?
<Qboid> egg|releasing|egg: [MaDCoWS] => Massive and Distant Clusters of WISE Survey
<egg|releasing|egg> eggsample of acronym eggspansion ^
<egg|releasing|egg> Fiora: you can add further acronyms with !acr -add:ACRONYM Expansion Of The Acronym
<egg|releasing|egg> also you can get a list of the acronyms Qboid has been taught with !acr -list
* egg|releasing|egg stares
<egg|releasing|egg> this needs some despamming
<SnoopJeDi> Does that work anywhere in a sentence? !acr -list
<SnoopJeDi> oh mkay
<Fiora> !acr -add:ACRONYM Acronyms Can Recurse Or Not; Your Move
<Qboid> Fiora: I added the explanation for this acronym.
<SnoopJeDi> ?
<egg|releasing|egg> !u ?
<Qboid> U+1F4AF HUNDRED POINTS SYMBOL (?)
<Fiora> why not
<egg|releasing|egg> ?
<SnoopJeDi> My dad used to have a boat named Y-Knot (see aforementioned dad property)
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<egg> Cayley built for Windows and Linux
<egg> Iskierka: want to try out Cayley on linux?
<Iskierka> does this have history optimisation?
<egg> Iskierka: no, though we are making progress towards it (maybe it'll be in the following release?)
<egg> it has a bunch of bugfixes around KSP's silly physics-off-by-one, and trajectories in map view
<egg> (and in the underlying libraries stuff has been written towards trajectory optimization, yes, but it's not surfaced yet)
<egg> s/trajectory/history rendering/
<Qboid> egg meant to say: (and in the underlying libraries stuff has been written towards history rendering optimization, yes, but it's not surfaced yet)
<kmath> <mikamckinnon> @Alex_Parker Did someone lose an eye? Or did you accidentally lure a kitten into the rocket (again)?