egg|nomz|egg changed the topic of #kspacademia to: https://gist.github.com/pdn4kd/164b9b85435d87afbec0c3a7e69d3e6d | Dogs are cats. Spiders are cat interferometers. | Космизм сегодня! | Document well, for tomorrow you may get mauled by a ネコバス. | <UmbralRaptor> egg|nomz|egg: generally if your eyes are dewing over, that's not the weather. | <ferram4> I shall beat my problems to death with an engineer.
* UmbralRaptop
μVTs at SnoopJeDi.
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* UmbralRaptop
🔪 things.
<UmbralRaptop>
So, last night's bus snafu meant a 3 mile walk. Tonight's a 1.8. This seems like a silly way to exercise.
<bofh>
!u غع
<Qboid>
U+063A ARABIC LETTER GHAIN (غ)
<Qboid>
U+0639 ARABIC LETTER AIN (ع)
<bofh>
!u ע
<Qboid>
U+05E2 HEBREW LETTER AYIN (ע)
<SnoopJeDi>
D:
<iximeow>
aleph bet gimel daled ... yep my brain finally evicted the rest
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<awang_>
bofh: Sorry, *canonical ensembles are obscureish in my book :P
<awang_>
At least until #kspacademia infects me more
<egg|work|egg>
!wpn awang_
* Qboid
gives awang_ a barreled nitrate
<egg|work|egg>
!wpn bofh
* Qboid
gives bofh a continuous caliper
<egg|work|egg>
!tell icefire kmath
<Qboid>
egg|work|egg: I'll redirect this as soon as they are around.
<egg|work|egg>
bofh: +1 for a linguistics section in the topicquotes, possibly with mongolian/east asian and sumero-akkadian subsections (sometimes we have hattivat for the former)
<UmbralRaptor>
!choose stat mech|magnetostatics|troubleshoot Principia
<Qboid>
UmbralRaptor: Your options are: stat mech, magnetostatics, troubleshoot Principia. My choice: magnetostatics
<egg|work|egg>
UmbralRaptor: my choice: troubleshoot Principia :-p
<egg|work|egg>
UmbralRaptor: Kozai
* UmbralRaptor
fps downs.
<Ellied>
I'm taking the general GRE today >_>
<Ellied>
love how they forbid all electronic (and apparently also mechanical? wtf) devices of any kind inside the testing center, and also provide no place for you to put anything during the test, so you have to make it there with no phone or timepiece
<APlayer>
Ellied: Well, I mean, someone could have used an abacus
<Ellied>
I'd like to see them pull that off under the kind of supervision I'm sure is in place
<egg|work|egg>
what if someone used a curta
<egg|work|egg>
can you use log tables tho
<e_14159>
Are you allowed as much paper as you like?
<Ellied>
I don't think so, I'm pretty sure paper is also forbidden
<whitequark>
wtf is this shit
<whitequark>
boycott it :p
<egg|work|egg>
!wpn whitequark
* Qboid
gives whitequark an Akkadian slug
<whitequark>
!wpn egg
* Qboid
gives egg a lazy triaxial histomorphism
<Ellied>
I'd love to, but I also kinda want to go to grad school and can't afford to leave the country right now
<e_14159>
Well, you can use a paper to implement a turing machine, so...
<APlayer>
Ellied: Cheating results in immediate execution on the spot?
<Ellied>
(all the local schools require the general at least)
<Ellied>
I'm not taking the physics subject test though, fuck that
<egg|work|egg>
bofh: hmm, seems the akkadian dictionary doesn't have "slug"
<UmbralRaptor>
Ellied: it's so "fun" how mechanical pencils are banned. >_<
<Ellied>
can't wait to see how they handle "ID is required for admission but also you can't have anything on your person when you arrive"
<Ellied>
presumably clothing is allowed, they haven't explicitly banned that
<UmbralRaptor>
egg|work|egg: I think they only had units of weight, not mass.
<Ellied>
Admission probably isn't even going to care about my score very much, this is just a bureaucratic hoop to jump through for no reason
<APlayer>
They seal your clothing under a sheet of rubber which you may not open before the end of the test
<UmbralRaptor>
Ellied: anyway, if you test well, the PGRE is easy. If not…
<Ellied>
I usually do test well
<Ellied>
which honestly makes no sense given every other thing about me
<Ellied>
but hey
* egg|work|egg
pets Ellied
<egg|work|egg>
(is Ellied a cat too)
* egg|work|egg
assumes everything is a cat
<Ellied>
APlayer: at this point they could probably save a lot of time by just hiring an armed interrogator to tie me to a chair and administer the test orally
* APlayer
gives egg a dog and watches the outcome
<Ellied>
my friends keep telling me I'm a golden retriever
<e_14159>
egg|work|egg: I'm an approximated universal constant, not a cat.
<egg|work|egg>
APlayer: the dog is clearly a cat
<e_14159>
Ellied: What's the LD50 of orally administered GRE?
<APlayer>
1
<UmbralRaptor>
APlayer: dogs are cats (egg et al. 2014)
<Ellied>
e_14159: approximately 0.02 GRE per kilogram I think
<egg|work|egg>
!u n
<Qboid>
U+006E LATIN SMALL LETTER N (n)
<e_14159>
Ellied: So there's a 50% chance of a bad outcome, and a 50% chance of you dying during the test?
<egg|work|egg>
!u \
<Qboid>
U+005C REVERSE SOLIDUS (\)
* e_14159
considers a PhD a bad outcome.
* e_14159
explains jokes.
<Ellied>
I'm only applying to a master's program
<Ellied>
so yes
<e_14159>
Wait, you have tests for that?
<egg|work|egg>
e_14159: the US is weird and instead of having (BSc MSc) (PhD) they tend to be (BSc) (MSc PhD) aiui
<APlayer>
First student in history to have applied for a Master's degree and failed with a resulting PhD
<egg|work|egg>
(hence "grad school" endlessly confusing me as a concept)
<Ellied>
we have a (BSc MSc) program but it's never been used before
<e_14159>
egg|work|egg: Right. That always irritates me.
<e_14159>
It also irritates me that grad school != grade school.
<Ellied>
gradian school
<UmbralRaptor>
∇school
<Ellied>
brb applying to curl of grad school
<APlayer>
!wpn Ellied
* Qboid
gives Ellied a computable multimeter
<e_14159>
But I'm also surprised at those tests. Here, it's mostly a choice by university and related to BSc degrees. And, in the end, I think almost all people who do a BSc continue in the MSc.
<Ellied>
we *love* standardized tests in America apparently. they're excellent measures of affluence, race, and willingness to conform to rules without questioning them.
<APlayer>
TBH, the MSc used to be a pretty significant thing
<APlayer>
In Germany, that is
<Ellied>
my prof told me that an MSc in physics isn't worth the paper it's printed on, just what you learn and do while getting it
<e_14159>
Ellied: So, working as intended.
<Ellied>
yeah
<Ellied>
I feel like my physics knowledge could use a lot more work before I tackle a PhD or whatever else I decide to do next, so I think it will help in some measureable way to at least start an MS, even if I don't finish it
<e_14159>
Okay, let me contradict myself: Apparently the percentages in 2016 were 55/17/27 for planning to do a master's, not doing so, and being undecided.
<Ellied>
I like TAing and they'll pay me, so hey
<egg|work|egg>
Ellied: also for a PhD it might make sense to consider other countries
<e_14159>
APlayer: Yeah, but that's because we went Diplom -> (BSc, MSc)
<Ellied>
yes
<egg|work|egg>
(come to ETHZ! :-p)
<Ellied>
going abroad for a PhD is absolutely on my radar
<e_14159>
Ellied: Also strange: PhD without a master's.
<Ellied>
oh yeah that's fairly common
<egg|work|egg>
O_o
<Ellied>
everyone here (prof, friends, etc) really wanted me to go straight to a PhD program
<UmbralRaptor>
^
<Ellied>
but I couldn't finish my bachelors' at the right point in the cycle, so I'd have to wait until next application cycle anyway
<APlayer>
So you were like "Screw you, guys, haha"
<APlayer>
:P
* UmbralRaptor
was weird (and for practical porpoises struggling) by being in a physics/astro MSc program.
<Ellied>
basically they were like "hey, get lost, you deserve better than this place" and I was like "no I don't"
<egg|work|egg>
Ellied: see the thing here is that you very often MSc. virtually indistinguishably from your BS, so having the MSc. when getting to the PhD is infinitely weird
<e_14159>
Here, official rules are (IIRC) that you *can* do a PhD if you're in the best 10% of your bachelor's. But I've never met anybody doing that.
<Ellied>
I'm by no means in the best 10% of my bachelor's lol
<egg|work|egg>
pretty sure I did courses in my second year (maybe even first?) BS that I counted for my MS instead :D
* APlayer
grumbles something about future plans
<egg|work|egg>
I think I got both degrees within the same year too or something silly like that
<UmbralRaptor>
I think all the places here require you take a class as the undergrad or grad version.
<SnoopJeDi>
So that microscopy paper I'm all ga-ga for...it turns out one of our local colleagues is related to one of the authors!
<egg|work|egg>
UmbralRaptor: whereas here I took classes before being registered for the MSc. programme that I then put in my MSc. :-p
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<SnoopJeDi>
grad(school) ≠ 0 because it's a sink
<SnoopJeDi>
err, I guess that joke doesn't work because that should be div() ?
<SnoopJeDi>
because it's not conservative, let's say
<egg>
!wpn bofh, e_14159, Ellied, UmbralRaptor, SnoopJeDi, whitequark, et al.
* Qboid
gives bofh, e_14159, Ellied, UmbralRaptor, SnoopJeDi, whitequark, et al. a threaded cathode ray tube
<egg>
"high-quality domestic cat reference genome assembly" I read that as "(high-quality domestic cat) reference genome assembly"
<whitequark>
lol
<egg>
whitequark: so if cat genomes are so rare, sequencing yours won't help figure out what kind of cat котя is (although maybe we can understand what controls котяchromy :-p)
<whitequark>
no, complete genomes are rare
<whitequark>
you don't need a complete genome
<SnoopJeDi>
and even once you have one, it's not entirely clear what to *do* with it, yea?
<kmath>
<FioraAeterna> Reminder that Florina and Fiora both have names with a root word of “flower” but Farina’s root word is “flour” and I hate IntSys so much