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<egg|work|egg> !wpn whitequark
* galois gives whitequark a rusty switched editor
<UmbralRaptop> laser control software written in rust?
<mofh> !wpn egg|work|egg
* galois gives egg|work|egg a tardigrade with a lava attachment
<UmbralRaptop> !wpn egg|work|egg, mofh et al
* galois gives egg|work|egg, mofh et al a lorenz nitrogen hyperboloid with a hammer attachment
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<kmath> <✔esaoperations> @esa This morning, @ESA's #Aeolus Earth observation satellite fired its thrusters, moving it off a collision course… https://t.co/5YcHB4L1PO
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<egg|work|egg> um
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<SilverFox> hey yall is there such a study as photodynamics? slimlining things so that they are aerodynamic, but for light?
<UmbralRaptop> If photon pressure is slowing you down significantly, I have questions
<UmbralRaptop> Anyway, it's more about surface area and absorption / reflection vs transmission. A photon gas under non-silly conditions has an enormous mean free path
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<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn whitequark
* galois gives whitequark a line with a shinai attachment
<SilverFox> UmbralRaptop, well, we deal with photon pressure in vacuums, like space, hell we even utilize it in different ways; stabilization + propulsion, but my question comes from the simple thought of "what if opposite??"
<SilverFox> as yall know I'm a simple-minded individual
<SilverFox> does black body radiation provide thrust?
<UmbralRaptop> Yes, see the Yarkovsky and YORP effects for examples
<SilverFox> I mean, for a given sphere it provides energy emission via light and infrared, but uniformly across the body, resulting in a net neutral, however, what if we isolate it to a singular part, and couple it via something like, aerogel, that doesn't conduct heat or allow it to pass through easily, and we just superheat a plate or something
<SilverFox> bam, thermal thrust drive
<SilverFox> are there any solids that can withstand 10,000 degrees C and not melt?
<UmbralRaptop> Briefly
<SilverFox> hmmmmmmmmm
<SilverFox> whats the bot here
<SilverFox> that does wolfram
<UmbralRaptop> More seriously, tungsten melts at 3700 K, and you can usually only get a few hundred more degrees with exotic refractory materials like hafnium diboride
<SilverFox> I see, well 10 grand was just an arbitrary number
<SilverFox> what sucks is I can't fucking math so all these equations are meaningless to me
<whitequark> !wa 1+1
<SilverFox> solid dude
* UmbralRaptop pokes galois with a stick
<UmbralRaptop> ;wa 5.67e-8*3700^4
<kmath> UmbralRaptop: 5.67×10^(-8)×3700^4: 1.062649287 × 10^7
<SilverFox> what is that number unit-wise?
<SilverFox> you're multiplying temperature by something
<UmbralRaptop> Stephan-Boltzmann constant
<UmbralRaptop> So, W/m² at the end
<SilverFox> okay, so now I need to get W into newton force
<UmbralRaptop> This feels relevant to whitequark https://mastodon.social/@dx/102724268002982561
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<SilverFox> 1 to 7 0's is 10 million W
<SilverFox> which apparently is 1-1 with newton metres per second
<dx> UmbralRaptop: w-what
<SilverFox> so a 1m^2 plate, in 1 second, would generate 10 million newtons of force, that sounds... overpowered
<UmbralRaptop> dx: I mean, the thermodynamic version of AC is highly relevant to her interests?
<UmbralRaptop> SilverFox: I think you end up dividing by c, so you get like 1/30 of a N/m² for something as hot as the photosphere of an M3 star
<SilverFox> yeah dividing by c and getting an abismal number sounds about right
<SilverFox> so if it's 1/30th, we'd need uhhh
<SilverFox> ;c sqrt(30)
<kmath> SilverFox: 5.477225575051661
<SilverFox> 5.5m^2 plate to get a newton/m^2 force
* UmbralRaptop twitches
<SilverFox> im not good at math okay
<UmbralRaptop> It's the units
<SilverFox> did I get the units wrong?
<UmbralRaptop> A square 5.5 m on a side to get a 1 Newton force
<SilverFox> yeah?
<UmbralRaptop> Like, the sqrt(30) was fine
<SilverFox> I'm multiplyign the squirt of 30 to get the number to multiply by the dimensions of the plate
<SilverFox> am I doing it wrong?
<SilverFox> however, isn't the newton assuming a 1kg mass
<SilverFox> how heavy is this plate, and would its mass change by heating, and thermal expansion is a thing
<SilverFox> its mass shouldn't change by heating because the thermal expansion acts as if changing the density right?
<SilverFox> I dont think light metals have hardiness to them thermally, so that sucks
<UmbralRaptop> the force is unrelated to the mass of the plate here
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<SilverFox> I see
<SilverFox> but the acceleration applied only goes down as mass goes up
<egg|zzz|egg> ;wa 1+1
<kmath> egg|zzz|egg: 1 + 1 = 2
<egg|zzz|egg> whitequark: ^
<SilverFox> the absolute madlad
<egg|zzz|egg> ;wa 1+1 (*I wonder whether Mathematica comments work*)
<SilverFox> truly french
<kmath> egg|zzz|egg: Wolfram couldn't understand your gibberish
<egg|zzz|egg> !wpn
* galois gives egg|zzz|egg an octupole cesium axe
* egg|zzz|egg slaps kmath with the cesium axe
<SilverFox> oh shit cesium
<SilverFox> well damn, cesium melts at a measly 30 degrees
<SilverFox> but carbon is 3550
<SilverFox> whats the temperature point called when things become malleable?
* egg|zzz|egg slaps mofh in the materials
<SilverFox> okay nvm carbon doesnt melt, it just vaporizes
<whitequark> there's no such single temperature
<whitequark> metals become softer as you heat them up, glasses have a glass transition temperature but that's different
<SilverFox> yeah but glass is a liquid anyways
<whitequark> is not
<SilverFox> then why in old houses is the bottom of glass panes thicker than the top? checkmate atheist
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* galois gives UmbralRaptop a cobalt saber
<whitequark> because float glass is a new invention and glass has been produced for a very long time by making and collapsing a huge bubble then cutting it outwards
<whitequark> have you tried looking this up in, i dunno, wikipedia
* UmbralRaptop stabs SilverFox with a cobalt saber
<whitequark> thanks UmbralRaptop
<SilverFox> why the fuck would I do that
<SilverFox> that's lame
<whitequark> well you could also consider the kinetics of flowing glass but that requires using your brain
<UmbralRaptop> Solid state physics is confusing and scary
<SilverFox> its just solids man
<SilverFox> its not it's fluid dynamics or anything
<UmbralRaptop> ;w debye model
<UmbralRaptop> ;wa debye model
<kmath> UmbralRaptop: Wolfram couldn't understand your gibberish
* UmbralRaptop 🔪 kmath
<SilverFox> ha my bot does it
<SilverFox> your bot sucks
<UmbralRaptop> almost as simple as it gets https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debye_model
<SilverFox> easy peasy
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* UmbralRaptop 🔪 💊
* UmbralRaptop ponders just accepting the increased risks so that I can have energy and focus again
<SilverFox> increased risks of medicine?
<UmbralRaptop> of seizures
<SilverFox> seizures? do you mind me asking what medications?
<SilverFox> all yall backgrounds are like, computer science and math and purist math and physics, mine is medicine
<UmbralRaptop> Levetiracetam/Keppra
<SilverFox> give me a sec, I'll do some research for you
<UmbralRaptop> Things that are known: probably not photosensitive, only one caused so far had a clear heat stress component
<SilverFox> Ah I see, epilepsy
<SilverFox> of unknown cause
<SilverFox> epilepsy is one of those hard ones to treat well without known cause
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<SilverFox> yeah I'm not liking those common side effects
<whitequark> SilverFox: my background is bioengineering/bioinformatics for that matter, everything i know about computers i dug out on my own
<SilverFox> ooh neat
<SilverFox> I'm more pharmaceuticals, with a bit of anatomical and biological
<whitequark> although i really remember more about general physiology than anything to do with bioinformatics in particular at this point
<SilverFox> I try, but I'm rather limited in my materials, because I'm not a student anymore, and dont belong to an institution or work
<SilverFox> I like data gathering and analytics, but I'm woefully bad at mathing
<egg|zzz|egg> whitequark: UmbralRaptop: is депакотя any better/worse than the molecule UmbralRaptop is taking?
* egg|zzz|egg has never been on anything other than депакотя
<egg|zzz|egg> депакоте?
<UmbralRaptop> egg|zzz|egg: well, I'm decidedly allergic to cats…
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<UmbralRaptop> SilverFox: so, uh, Shaum's outline for statistics?
<SilverFox> what now?
<whitequark> egg|zzz|egg: it's pretty individual, hard to say
<UmbralRaptop> A textbook series, generally quite good
<SilverFox> oh a book, thanks
<egg|zzz|egg> also clearly the 300 mg tablets are депакотенька
<SilverFox> we speak MERICA
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* UmbralRaptop imagines medicine being measured in grains or ounces
<egg|zzz|egg> we speak the two human languages, as well as the third human language
<SilverFox> medicine measured in football fields per bald eagle, of course
<UmbralRaptop> We also speak the snek language
<whitequark> and the marine language
<egg|zzz|egg> whitequark: it is sad how little of the ISO stuff is available in the third human language https://www.iso.org/ru/committee/55238.html
<egg|zzz|egg> (that page is fully translated in the two human languages of course)
<UmbralRaptop> … of course the most cursed language is where Cthulhu lives
<egg|zzz|egg> (whose french description is way more detailed than the english one)
<egg|zzz|egg> (but has bad grammar, so)
<egg|zzz|egg> whitequark: the marine language?
<UmbralRaptop> egg: C
<SilverFox> ha
<egg|zzz|egg> whitequark: there are even more languages!!! https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/ru/#iso:std:iso:9001:ed-5:v1:ar
<egg|zzz|egg> five for that standard
<egg|zzz|egg> most are en & fr though
<egg|zzz|egg> and then a bunch of things are en-only, especially the ISO/IEC stuff https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/ru/#iso:std:iso-iec:10646:
<egg|zzz|egg> whitequark: here's one that's en & ru https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/ru/#iso:std:iso:19005:-1:ed-1:v1:ru
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* galois gives UmbralRaptop an atlatl
<UmbralRaptop> Ranged stab!