04:10 <Tone> Do they typically release a new version with the new moon?

04:20 <UmbralRaptor> Yes, the eggs do.

07:57 <egg|zzz|egg> Tone: yup, since Cardano

07:58 <Tone> when the mod updates the planet/moon positions; would their soi’s change accordingly from the way ksp calculates them?

07:59 <Tone> edit; orbital elements

08:01 <UmbralRaptor> SOIs don't really exist in Principia.

08:03 <Tone> Would this mod work well with To Boldly Go?

08:04 <Tone> Or is there a pratical limit to how many bodies could be calculated at a time?

08:07 <UmbralRaptor> As best I'm aware, the limit is somewhat high. But egg|zzz|egg is not responsible for your system being unstable, and there's no graceful way to handle planets/moons colliding.

08:08 <egg|zzz|egg> UmbralRaptor: what do you mean that's not graceful :-p https://twitter.com/whitequark/status/836460976648024065

08:08 <kmath> <whitequark> [ 12.9Gy] (system) FATAL: Apocalypse occurred at:Stream corrupted https://t.co/Ok8RBjbwY7

08:12 <Tone> somewhat high meaning 1000 would be ok?

08:12 <UmbralRaptor> Well, obviously we'd prefer if you could simulate the collision instead of segfaulting.

08:13 <UmbralRaptor> ...wait, 12.9 Gy?!

08:13 <UmbralRaptor> Did you take into account mass loss from Sol's RGB/AGB/PN phases?

08:14 <UmbralRaptor> :D

08:14 <Tone> what’s Gy?

08:16 <Tone> doesn’t a collision mean the masses just add together?

08:16 <UmbralRaptor> Gigayear

08:17 <UmbralRaptor> well, high speed collisions and/or low body masses would tend to cause fragmentation.

08:17 <Tone> what’s a good externam tool to simulate a system in?

08:17 <UmbralRaptor> Also non-trivial rotation effects for some angles. And heating.

08:18 <UmbralRaptor> I'd semi-randomly suggest mercury6.

08:18 <UmbralRaptor> But egg|zzz|egg might have a different suggestion.

08:19 <UmbralRaptor> (granted, Gy can also mean Gray, but not in this context)

08:22 <UmbralRaptor> http://www.arm.ac.uk/~jec/home.html

08:27 <UmbralRaptor> :D

09:45 <GH> [Principia] scimas opened issue #1452: Kerbals on EVA spawn several meters away from the vessel https://git.io/vQE9w

09:49 <GH> [Principia] scimas commented on issue #1416: Since Cauchy, when vessels come close together (close enough to switch between them using hotkeys), they change position abruptly. It looks almost exactly like this timewarp issue, so wrote here before opening a new issue. https://git.io/vQEHt

16:54 <Sarbian> Raidernick: I am not here at 5AM :) Mention me and I ll reply when I am around

16:55 <Sarbian> lamont: I did not do a full review but this looked nice. I can merge if you think it is worthy of the dev branch

16:55 <lamont> uh the ascent stuff?

16:56 <lamont> that’s still pretty much still in flight

16:56 <lamont> i’ve got a ton more work on my branch

16:56 <lamont> (my 1.2 dev branch of it, not the 1.3 branch)

16:58 <lamont> there’s still some hella buggy menu stuff in what is in the PR

16:58 <lamont> there’s even new hella buggy menu stuff in my branch

17:05 <lamont> @sarbian i just pushed the work i’ve been doing over the past week to the PR

17:05 <Soozee> Unknown command, try @list

17:09 <Sarbian> lamont: ok, comment on the PR when you think it is ready

17:10 <lamont> yep

17:10 <Sarbian> And I ll have a look at adding a proper 1.2 branch...

17:10 <lamont> 1.2 is actually pretty easy

17:10 <lamont> its just reverting that one commit

17:10 <Sarbian> yes, the change are small. I ll add a Jenkins job to build a RSS build of MJ

17:11 <lamont> that’d be cool

17:12 <lamont> and yeah, right now its got one really bad menu’ing bug involving lots of logspam and a totally busted menu, that at least needs to get fixed, since i wouldn’t want that to land in a dev build

17:13 <lamont> (gotta get some work done now)

17:13 <Sarbian> ok. I can't look into much for a few more days but I should be able to have a look later this week

17:13 <lamont> its some bug in my code, i just need to fix it

17:14 <lamont> i’ve just been more concerned with getting the PEG algorithm to 2-stage or N-stage that fixing UI bugs

17:28 <egg> !wpn Sarbian

17:28 <egg> !wpn lamont

17:28 <lamont> hahaha

18:43 <egg> !wpn lamont

18:44 <lamont> !wpn egg

18:44 <lamont> lol

18:52 <GH> [Principia] pleroy commented on issue #1451: Most likely this is an installation problem. Somehow you have two files describing your solar system. Could be two installations of Principia for instance. https://git.io/vQu5c

18:54 <GH> [Principia] pleroy closed issue #1448: ksp realism overhaul crash https://git.io/vHjaZ

19:07 <GH> [Principia] pleroy commented on issue #1452: Thanks for the report. We were able to reproduce it. Will investigate more. https://git.io/vQudo

21:01 <GH> [Principia] eggrobin commented on issue #1452: We tested EVA when solving #1415, so the branch for #1428 still worked; however this was branched off master before #1426 was merged, and that one may affect new vessels.... https://git.io/vQzfT