UmbralRaptop changed the topic of #principia to: READ THE FAQ: http://goo.gl/gMZF9H; The current version is Fano. We currently target 1.3.1, 1.4.x, 1.5.1, and 1.6.1. <scott_manley> anyone that doubts the wisdom of retrograde bop needs to get the hell out | https://xkcd.com/323/ | <egg> calculating the influence of lamont on Pluto is a bit silly…
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<_whitenotifier-5dfc> [Principia] pleroy pushed 3 commits to master [+0/-0/±4] https://git.io/fj0Tq
<_whitenotifier-5dfc> [Principia] pleroy 1aee080 - Fix problems found on Linux.
<_whitenotifier-5dfc> [Principia] pleroy da59828 - There is now a .cpp in physics/.
<_whitenotifier-5dfc> [Principia] pleroy 858ab5d - Merge pull request #2183 from pleroy/Linux Fix problems found on Linux
<_whitenotifier-5dfc> [Principia] pleroy closed pull request #2183: Fix problems found on Linux - https://git.io/fjRAc
<discord-> l​amont. — 1,000 lines of code into this new mathematica framework i'm building and after writing everything as row vectors because the code 'looked' better i just re-learned the hard way why nearly every variable should be a column vector...
<discord-> l​amont. — column vectors are in R^n, row vectors are in the dual of R^n and never the twain shall meet...
<discord-> l​amont. — KSP's vector class made me lazy
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<discord-> e​gg. — @lamont well, if you have an inner product it's fine (as long as your coordinates are orthonormal wrt it)
<discord-> e​gg. — @lamont also, Mathematica? there you can often much ignore the column vs. row thing since it does matrix . row as if it were matrix . column
<discord-> e​gg. — now, if you do not have an inner product, yeah, don't mix them up
<discord-> e​gg. — cc UmbralRaptop
<discord-> e​gg. — @hooya are you referring to https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/issues/2157?
<discord-> e​gg. — that's just a bug, bugs happen; if it's affecting you significantly, use Euler while waiting for Fatou, or build from head
<discord-> l​amont. — . s/mathemtica/matlab/
<discord-> l​amont. — y = A x vs y' = A x'
<discord-> e​gg. — ah yeah, matlab is more rigorous about this iirc
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<discord-> S​tandecco. — This channel is also becoming a rant channel when some coding goes wrong
<discord-> S​tandecco. — It keeps getting better
<discord-> S​tandecco. — @egg btw, when is the new moon dropping?
<discord-> e​gg. — I think it's on the third?
<discord-> D​amien. — can't you move it earlier?
<discord-> e​gg. — ```
<discord-> e​gg. — NOUVELLE LUNE 3 juin 2019 à 10h02m UT
<discord-> e​gg. — PREMIER QUARTIER 10 juin 2019 à 05h59m UT
<discord-> e​gg. — PLEINE LUNE 17 juin 2019 à 08h30m UT
<discord-> e​gg. — DERNIER QUARTIER 25 juin 2019 à 09h47m UT
<discord-> e​gg. — ```
<discord-> D​amien. — can't be that hard. the moon's small enough to cover with your thumb
<discord-> D​amien. — just go and give it a nudge
<discord-> S​tandecco. — And your released all come with a new moon?
<discord-> S​tandecco. — And your releases all come with a new moon? (edited)
<discord-> e​gg. — @Standecco yeah, since Cardano https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/wiki/Change-Log#astronomy-1
<discord-> e​gg. — we went 8 months between releases because there was always another thing that needed to go in, we decided this was a bad strategy and decided to use the moon
* discord- e​gg. — glares at RO_
<discord-> e​gg. — :-p
<discord-> s​iimav. — Thank god you didn't glare at RP-1
<VITAS> SpaceDock will be moved in 30 Minutes!
<VITAS> Expect downtimes of 1-2h
<discord-> K​obymaru. — Is there any way to change the "Warp to Maneuvre" lead time?
<egg|z|egg> no
<egg|z|egg> do you need more than 60 s lead time?
<discord-> K​obymaru. — I do, my current ship needs about 1:30 to turn
<discord-> K​obymaru. — But to be on the safe side, maybe 2-3 minutes
<discord-> D​amien. — what the hell are you flying?
<discord-> K​obymaru. — KAC gives 3 minutes lead time
<discord-> K​obymaru. — nothing special, I just don't like putting huge RCS quads on my ship when it doesn't need to do quick maneuvers
<discord-> D​amien. — fair enough
<discord-> e​gg. — @Kobymaru yeah that definitely makes sense
<discord-> K​obymaru. — thanks
<discord-> e​gg. — would probably want to make it tunable, since 3 min is pretty long
<discord-> e​gg. — can you open an issue to track this?
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<_whitenotifier-5dfc> [Principia] fat-lobyte opened issue #2185: Make Warp to Maneuver Node lead time tunable - https://git.io/fj0qg
<discord-> K​obymaru. — Wouldn't making it tunable require UI changes?
<discord-> K​obymaru. — I know you don't like "quick fixes", but maybe as an intermediate step, you could set it to 2 minutes
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<discord-> e​gg. — Yeah but that would annoy me, because often 1 min is too long already
<discord-> e​gg. — Especially in stock
<discord-> D​amien. — isn't stock warp to 3mins?
<discord-> e​gg. — Stock having annoying UX doesn't mean I want the same :-p
<discord-> D​amien. — haha lets not start throwing 'annoying UX' stones in this house made of glass egg 😛
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<discord-> e​gg. — :D
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<discord-> e​gg. — @王小谦同学 Hi, I think I spotted a small typo in your Principia guide: "瑞典职业程序员"; we live in 瑞士, not 瑞典 (and we are 法国人, not 瑞士人, but that's not something you can tell easily from our GitHub profiles) :-)
<discord-> 王​小谦同学. — Oh Sorry about that
<discord-> 王​小谦同学. — Actually I'll fix that right now
<discord-> e​gg. — no problem
<discord-> e​gg. — amusingly that typo happens all the time here too, since the countries are next to each other in alphabetical order in English
<discord-> e​gg. — @王小谦同学 another thing is that it's spelled "leroy", not "leory"
<discord-> 王​小谦同学. — Sorry, some typos
<discord-> 王​小谦同学. — actually, there might be a lot of typos inside
<discord-> 王​小谦同学. — I should actually go over it
<discord-> 王​小谦同学. — Cause this was written mostly when I was on bus
<discord-> 王​小谦同学. — So I might actually type a lot of things wrong
<discord-> e​gg. — typos aside, as far as I can tell it seems to be a very good guide, very thorough
<discord-> e​gg. — (unfortunately I don't speak Chinese so I have to read it through machine translation)
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<VITAS> all i see are utf8 blocks as nicks
<VITAS> reminds me of prince aka lovesymbol
<UmbralRaptor> uh
<UmbralRaptor> The Chinese language eggsists
<egg|work|egg> VITAS: you need a better font
<VITAS> in need a better os
<VITAS> its windows
<egg|work|egg> windows has fonts with decent support
<egg|work|egg> are you in a terminal or something?
<VITAS> yes but hexchat seems to ignore them
<egg|work|egg> ah yes, HexChat is terrible at text
<VITAS> but great at irc
<egg|work|egg> you have to manually configure font fallback because it reinvented the wheel
<VITAS> even changing the font to arial didnt help
<UmbralRaptor> hexchat doesn't know that astral planes eggsist. Consider irssi?
<egg|work|egg> UmbralRaptor: astral planes work for me
<VITAS> no hexchat game top in a carefull selection process
<VITAS> i didnt know at the time its racist
<egg|work|egg> VITAS: there's a setting somewhere where you can list fallback fonts
<egg|work|egg> you can pile stuff up there
<egg|work|egg> unifont is kind of shit tbh
<egg|work|egg> VITAS: I can point you to the setting when I'm back from work, I use hexchat too
<VITAS> dont see that i only see the display font
<VITAS> on windows?
<egg|work|egg> yeah it's hidden somewhere silly
<egg|work|egg> yes
<VITAS> might be different
<VITAS> ah ok
<egg|work|egg> VITAS: I found this screenshot http://i.imgur.com/xdRuAxR.png
<egg|work|egg> it's in "miscellaneous" because why would you put this anywhere sensible
<VITAS> found it
<VITAS> it contains Arial Unicode MS,Segoe UI Emoji,Lucida Sans Unicode,Meiryo,Symbola,Unifont
<VITAS> arial unicode ms should be able to do chines but it doesnt
* UmbralRaptor 𓌪
<VITAS> it can do smilies sometimes
* UmbralRaptor 𒄈
<VITAS> nope
<egg|work|egg> it is very odd that 王​小谦同学 doesn't render in any of those; some font might be pretending that it support it before the others get a chance?
<egg|work|egg> (UmbralRaptor was using hieroglyphs and cuneiform here)
<VITAS> might be
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