raptop changed the topic of #principia to: READ THE FAQ: http://goo.gl/gMZF9H; The current version is Fréchet. We currently target 1.5.1, 1.6.1, and 1.7.x. <scott_manley> anyone that doubts the wisdom of retrograde bop needs to get the hell out | https://xkcd.com/323/ | <egg> calculating the influence of lamont on Pluto is a bit silly… | <egg> also 4e16 m * 2^-52 is uncomfortably large
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bofh453. — @egg: nope, pretty standard [a e i o u ɨ] Slavic language vowel set (with some allophones, but iirc that's the core set).
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egg. — well yes but nasals
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bofh453. — also I mess that up in FR, in that I sometimes consciously misread u as [u] instead of [y] if I overthink it (and iirc you've yelled at me for that in the past even :p).
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bofh453. — right, it's a nasal o (ą) and a nasal ɛ (ȩ).
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egg. — @bofh453 yeah ę = in [ɛ̃], ą = on [ɔ̃]
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egg. — no [ɑ̃] so that might be a bit tricky
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egg. — [œ̃] is dialect-dependent in fr
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bofh453. — wait, ther's a [œ̃]? which dialects?
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egg. — standard french, as taught
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egg. — un = [œ̃], in = [ɛ̃]
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egg. — there are even minimal pairs (brun vs. brin)
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egg. — lost in modern Parisian though
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egg. — same situation with [a] vs [ɑ], distinguished in standard french, minimal pairs exist (patte vs. pâte), distinction lost in Parisian
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bofh453. — I swear it feels like Parisian loses like a third of all vowels and this is part of what makes spoken Parisian somewhat hard for me to understand if spoken quickly.
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egg. — @bofh453 no that's a different thing, spoken french elides most [ə]
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egg. — that's not dialect-specific
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egg. — (otoh, [ə] tends to turn into [ø], but I think only the ones that would be [ə] are eligible for elision)
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bofh453. — It definetly does *not* do the same elision, which I suspect is why I still find it easier to understand despite having barely heard it in a decade compared to fr-FR.
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Sir Mortimer. — Ah and there I was contemplating odd satellites being odd to affect their orbits somehow
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egg. — I mean, the geometry of satellites can have an effect on things, but Principia doesn't do SRP modeling at this time :-p
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egg. — I've started working on conservation of angular momentum though
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Sir Mortimer. — That spy sat that didn’t collide with the old telescope had a weight suspended by a 18m (?) rod or something to maintain a good attitude
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egg. — oh, fun
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egg. — we're not yet at the point where we want to look at the torque induced by the gravity gradient, but maybe one day
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Sir Mortimer. — That rod I think was the main reason for the elevated collision risk