raptop changed the topic of #principia to: READ THE FAQ: http://goo.gl/gMZF9H; The current version is פרנקל. We currently target 1.5.1, 1.6.1, and 1.7.x. <scott_manley> anyone that doubts the wisdom of retrograde bop needs to get the hell out | https://xkcd.com/323/ | <egg> calculating the influence of lamont on Pluto is a bit silly… | <egg> also 4e16 m * 2^-52 is uncomfortably large
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* discord- e​gg. — stares at RealPatch_
<discord-> e​gg. — _replies to the reddits https://www.reddit.com/r/RealSolarSystem/comments/dzzmks/removing_axial_tilt/fc2iy37/ _ (edited)
<discord-> e​gg. — \/me replies to the reddits https://www.reddit.com/r/RealSolarSystem/comments/dzzmks/removing_axial_tilt/fc2iy37/ (edited)
<discord-> S​ir Mortimer. — Wtf
<discord-> e​gg. — @Sir Mortimer the RSS tilt confuses many
<discord-> e​gg. — confused people do confused things
<discord-> e​gg. — this sometimes attracts the wrath of the egg
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<discord-> S​ir Mortimer. — Why do people complain about the game being too hard after two releases making it EASIER than it was before?
<UmbralRaptor> is this like how people complained about the new small srb being underpowered because they expected a bigger flea or sepratron instead of a high Δv (for small upper stages) part?
<discord-> D​RVeyl. — People complain about funny things. 🙂 Let them, it's amusing?
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raptop changed the topic of #principia to: READ THE FAQ: http://goo.gl/gMZF9H; The current version is Fréchet. We currently target 1.5.1, 1.6.1, and 1.7.x. <scott_manley> anyone that doubts the wisdom of retrograde bop needs to get the hell out | https://xkcd.com/323/ | <egg> calculating the influence of lamont on Pluto is a bit silly… | <egg> also 4e16 m * 2^-52 is uncomfortably large
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<discord-> R​urouniDonut. — @egg Is there a way to manually delete history of a spacecraft? In the save file perhaps
<discord-> e​gg. — nope
<discord-> l​pg. — is there a way to manually delete history of _all_ spacecraft at once? or is that data mixed with other important things in the persisted state?
<discord-> R​urouniDonut. — Welp, I hope interplanetary crafts history isn’t too scary with the performance impact
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<discord-> e​gg. — it's not the interplanetary crafts that are going to be a problem
<discord-> e​gg. — it's the LEO stuff
<discord-> e​gg. — @lpg deleting the entire Principia state is likely to make Principia unhappy; don't
<discord-> e​gg. — we'll need to figure something out eventually
<discord-> e​gg. — @RurouniDonut @lpg actually there is a way to clear the history of a spacecraft: switch to that spacecraft, hack gravity, and unhack gravity
<discord-> e​gg. — it's hacky
<discord-> l​pg. — ooh clever
<discord-> e​gg. — @RurouniDonut but don't do it tbh
<discord-> R​urouniDonut. — Alright, thanks!
<discord-> e​gg. — the interplanetary spacecraft aren't the ones that are going to eat your disk
<discord-> e​gg. — because their trajectories are much straighter, they'll be much more compact
<raptop> But a Galileo or Cassini equivalent would?
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<discord-> e​gg. — well, yes, but you probably have fewer of them than LEO sats
<discord-> e​gg. — and their histories are more interesting
<discord-> e​gg. — so the ones whose histories you should be clearing are really the LEO sats
<discord-> R​urouniDonut. — Gotcha
<discord-> R​urouniDonut. — I'm deleting old spacecraft so the performance is fine for now
<discord-> R​urouniDonut. — But once I have sats that are constantly collecting Kerbalism science I wonder how performance will be affected then
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<discord-> e​gg. — yeah, we'll need to come up with something.
<discord-> e​gg. — not sure how to address it though; we want to avoid what was happening with the old history length setting, where people were deleting the interesting histories without a second thought
<discord-> e​gg. — and obviously the ones that you might want to get rid of are those of the many boring sats, so if we have a way to individually clear histories it's going to be very tedious to go through those
<discord-> e​gg. — perhaps we could forget the bits that are purely under the influence of gravity, and recompute them on-demand? that's going to require lots of design work anyway