raptop changed the topic of #principia to: READ THE FAQ: http://goo.gl/gMZF9H; The current version is Fréchet. We currently target 1.5.1, 1.6.1, and 1.7.x. <scott_manley> anyone that doubts the wisdom of retrograde bop needs to get the hell out | https://xkcd.com/323/ | <egg> calculating the influence of lamont on Pluto is a bit silly… | <egg> also 4e16 m * 2^-52 is uncomfortably large
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<discord-> l​pg. — Would a per-vessel cap on history "size" be a meaningful concept? (i.e. something that would get hit faster for those boring sats than for interesting vessels)
<discord-> e​gg. — @lpg if that solved the problem, there would be no problem to start with
<discord-> e​gg. — the problem here is that boring vessels need lots of space
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<discord-> e​gg. — because they look interesting for the fairly simple downsampling method that we apply (and the general-purpose lossless compression of the save doesn't stand a chance obviously)
<discord-> e​gg. — we would need some way of taking advantage of their boringness
<discord-> l​pg. — right. so cap that space, the boring vessels hit it faster
<discord-> e​gg. — they don't
<discord-> e​gg. — interesting vessels are also interestings
<discord-> e​gg. — interesting vessels are also interesting/ (edited)
<discord-> e​gg. — if you have Cassini, it does lots of orbits, those aren't going to downsample any better than your LEO sat's under the current scheme
<discord-> l​pg. — ah
<discord-> e​gg. — but you want to be able to visualize Cassini's orbits, and your always-the-same LEO sat not so much
<discord-> A​irhead. — hey guys
<discord-> A​irhead. — does principia affect how planes fly in KSP in any way?
<discord-> A​irhead. — maybe how they fall at low velocity?
<discord-> A​irhead. — or perhaps at a higher altitude like 20km
<discord-> S​ir Mortimer. — I think while in atmosphere, principia yields to KSP
<UmbralRaptor> integration between the ferram4 and egg sectors is nontrivial
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<discord-> l​pg. — so... with Fréchet, is it normal that bringing up the Esc menu in map mode makes the camera go nuts? like it's very rapidly spinning around some point
<discord-> T​heRealWiwaxia. — I'd say it yields to FAR as well
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<discord-> A​cer_Saccharum. — As far as I know the spinning is *intended* as I doesn't affect gameplay
<discord-> e​gg. — @lpg see the change log; known issue
<discord-> e​gg. — UmbralRaptor: yes but that problem was resolved a while back
<discord-> e​gg. — @Sir Mortimer not exactly; we manage the vessel as soon as it lifts off, atmosphere or not; aerodynamic forces are treated like engine forces
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<discord-> e​gg. — @Sir Mortimer we used to not touch vessels that were in the atmosphere; we changed to the current system in Δημόκριτος, completing the reunification of the @ferram4 and @egg sectors https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/pull/1865
<discord-> e​gg. — the roadmap for that effort was the *Ten-point plan for the unification of the egg and ferram4 sector*
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<discord-> l​pg. — there's rotate and there's rotate; I'm talking epileptic-seizure-inducing. that's the known issue?
<discord-> D​amien. — @lpg yes
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<discord-> e​gg. — yeah it spins wildly
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<discord-> B​utcher. — @egg My save game is massive because of you. 😕
<discord-> B​utcher. — I had to kill steam because the steam cloud backup was going to take about 30 minutes,.
<discord-> e​gg. — @Butcher how large?
<discord-> B​utcher. — The save game is actually only about 60 mb, but there are backup copies made by mods, so 700 in total.
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