raptop changed the topic of #principia to: READ THE FAQ: http://goo.gl/gMZF9H; The current version is Fréchet. We currently target 1.5.1, 1.6.1, and 1.7.x. <scott_manley> anyone that doubts the wisdom of retrograde bop needs to get the hell out | https://xkcd.com/323/ | <egg> calculating the influence of lamont on Pluto is a bit silly… | <egg> also 4e16 m * 2^-52 is uncomfortably large
egg|laptop|egg has joined #principia
egg|laptop|egg has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
UmbralRaptop has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
UmbralRaptop has joined #principia
Mike` has quit [Ping timeout: 204 seconds]
Mike` has joined #principia
egg|laptop|egg has joined #principia
egg|laptop|egg has quit [Ping timeout: 190 seconds]
<discord-> B​adRocketsCo. — Was that a save from a non-principia game?
<_whitenotifier-d13c> [Principia] pleroy opened pull request #2461: Fix a linker error that only shows up on clang - https://git.io/JvqSu
<_whitenotifier-d13c> [Principia] Pending. Build queued… - 
<_whitenotifier-d13c> [Principia] Pending. Building… - http://casanova.westeurope.cloudapp.azure.com:8080/job/Principia/4115/
<_whitenotifier-d13c> [Principia] eggrobin labeled pull request #2461: Fix a linker error that only shows up on clang - https://git.io/JvqSu
<_whitenotifier-d13c> [Principia] Success. Build finished. - http://casanova.westeurope.cloudapp.azure.com:8080/job/Principia/4115/
egg|laptop|egg has joined #principia
<_whitenotifier-d13c> [Principia] pleroy closed pull request #2461: Fix a linker error that only shows up on clang - https://git.io/JvqSu
<_whitenotifier-d13c> [Principia] pleroy pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±12] https://git.io/JvqHO
<_whitenotifier-d13c> [Principia] pleroy ae8f502 - Remove a template parameter that is useless and causing linker trouble.
<_whitenotifier-d13c> [Principia] pleroy 7f4a4ab - Merge pull request #2461 from pleroy/LinkerError Fix a linker error that only shows up on clang
egg|laptop|egg has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
egg|laptop|egg has joined #principia
Jesin has joined #principia
egg|cell|egg has joined #principia
<discord-> F​alcon. — No, it was from a principia game to a principia. Same version
egg|laptop|egg has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
egg|laptop|egg has joined #principia
egg|laptop|egg has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
egg|laptop|egg has joined #principia
egg|laptop|egg has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
egg|laptop|egg has joined #principia
egg|laptop|egg has quit [Ping timeout: 190 seconds]
egg|laptop|egg has joined #principia
egg|laptop|egg has quit [Ping timeout: 189 seconds]
<discord-> e​gg. — Give me the logs
<discord-> e​gg. — Read the FAQ which will tell you to give us the logs
<discord-> e​gg. — I think I've told you to read the FAQ previously already
<discord-> F​alcon. — Yes, and I waited for your response before doing that, because i dont want to flood the channel with stuff before you say you will help
<discord-> l​amont. — don't flood, just post a link to a gist or pastebin or whatever of the logs
<discord-> F​alcon. — once i load up my game, ill send you the log from it crashing
<discord-> F​alcon. — im using Frechet on it, since that is the last version of Principia that the save used
<discord-> S​ir Mortimer. — Just be sure to send the correct log.
<discord-> F​alcon. — Where is the Frechet download page that is compiled -_-
<discord-> F​alcon. — i got rid of all my downloads apparently of it
<UmbralRaptop> I, er, would recommend against compiling HTML
<discord-> F​alcon. — https://1drv.ms/u/s!Arq6VxtxpZ4_g8V1bzKqiWfA5dbSpQ?e=f9nwKz
<discord-> F​alcon. — there is the log
<discord-> F​alcon. — if it is anything like the previous logs, it doesnt have any errors near the end that would cause a crash
<discord-> F​alcon. — just shows scatterer
<discord-> F​alcon. — yet i know it isnt that
<discord-> n​eph. — Somebody didn't read the faqs...
<discord-> n​eph. — 🥚 ⛈️
egg|cell|egg has quit [Ping timeout: 198 seconds]
egg|cell|egg has joined #principia
egg|cell|egg has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
<discord-> S​ir Mortimer. — @Falcon wrong log.
<discord-> F​alcon. — I dont know of any other log >.>
<discord-> l​pg. — have you tried reading the principia faq?
<discord-> F​alcon. — Yup, there is no error log from these crashes
<discord-> F​alcon. — I could try and force one
<discord-> F​alcon. — forced an error, is this it?
<discord-> F​alcon. — the glog thingy
<discord-> e​gg. — looks like your savefile is corrupted
<discord-> e​gg. — did you edit it, or load it in-game with a broken Principia install or without Prinicpia?
<discord-> F​alcon. — Nope
<discord-> e​gg. — (also, we usually want the INFO log, not the WARNING log)
<discord-> F​alcon. — Gotcha
<discord-> e​gg. — which the FAQ says
<discord-> F​alcon. — I will send that here in a minute
<discord-> F​alcon. — I was looking for an error.log
<discord-> F​alcon. — Couldnt find it
<discord-> e​gg. — READ THE FAQ
<discord-> F​alcon. — I did
<discord-> e​gg. — it does not say error.log
<discord-> F​alcon. — It said if I had issues with game crashes to look for an ertor.log or something to that effect
<discord-> e​gg. — it says multiple things
<discord-> e​gg. — and you should read them all
<discord-> e​gg. — > You probably encountered a glog CHECK failure. Go to <KSP directory>\glog, check that there is a recent FATAL file. Take the most recent FATAL and INFO files, upload them on gist. Link the gist in your github issue.
<discord-> K​irk. — @Falcon Read everything
<discord-> K​irk. — You should've learned that installing RP-1
<discord-> e​gg. — error.log is when you encounter a crash in KSP, a Principia CHECK failure produces a glog FATAL file instead
<discord-> F​alcon. — I should set a whole afternoon to read every FAQ and readme file associated with every mod then
<discord-> e​gg. — well, you should at least read the ones of the mods with which you are having issues
<discord-> e​gg. — and to whose discord you are reporting those issues
<discord-> e​gg. — and wherein you are being told to read it
<discord-> e​gg. — In any case, I ought to sleep
<discord-> e​gg. — Please post the save while you're at it
<discord-> e​gg. — looks like it's corrupted, but that way we'll know for sure
<discord-> F​alcon. — it will take a bit to upload the files to my cloud, maybe 5 minutes or so
<discord-> e​gg. — well, I won't be investigating it in 5 minutes anyway, what with that whole sleeping thing
<discord-> F​alcon. — i know the save itself isnt corrupted, because it works without Principia
<discord-> e​gg. — you know that it works without principia
<discord-> F​alcon. — But the save i pulled from my other install, was never used without Principia
<discord-> B​utcher. — They let you sleep @egg?
<discord-> e​gg. — that doesn't mean that the bits that contain the Principia state haven't been corrupted
<discord-> F​alcon. — one last question i guess if you dont mind before you go off to bed, what would corrupt them?
<discord-> e​gg. — no idea
<discord-> B​utcher. — Cosmic rays
<discord-> e​gg. — manual savefile editing mishaps?
<discord-> F​alcon. — never touched it
<discord-> e​gg. — or cosmic particles, yes
<discord-> e​gg. — or american sabotage
<discord-> F​alcon. — tomorrow i will send you the save file prior to it being attempted to be loaded in my game, and one after
<discord-> F​alcon. — I saved it straight from the old install
<discord-> B​utcher. — What's the average error rate on memory? It's higher than you might expect m
<discord-> e​gg. — on memory or on disk
<discord-> e​gg. — unless Falcon has RAID mirroring, that would be a theoretical possibility at least
<discord-> F​alcon. — im on an SSD
<discord-> F​alcon. — no RAID
<discord-> F​alcon. — as much as i wish I could do Raid 1
<discord-> e​gg. — we are failing on decompression here, not even sanity checks when reading the decompressed serialized data, so it is almost certainly corrupted in some fashion
<discord-> F​alcon. — so no way to reconstruct it?
<discord-> F​alcon. — I really dont want to start over *again* but oh well....
<discord-> e​gg. — well, send us the save and we'll look
<discord-> F​alcon. — Its about halfway uploaded
<discord-> e​gg. — @Falcon note that even in the worst case where the Principia state is unrecoverable, you can still just delete it
<discord-> F​alcon. — taking longer than 5 minutes it seems
<discord-> e​gg. — and keep the game-logic side of things
<discord-> F​alcon. — Delete principia?
<discord-> e​gg. — delete the principia bits of the save
<discord-> F​alcon. — as in the part in the save
<discord-> F​alcon. — ah...
<discord-> F​alcon. — so it wont have history?
<discord-> e​gg. — yeah, and your interplanetary vessels will be in strange places
<discord-> F​alcon. — but it will start from scratch basically as if the game started in whatever year i am in
<discord-> F​alcon. — What about lunar?
<discord-> e​gg. — but at least your progression will be as it was
<discord-> F​alcon. — I dont have anything interplanetary atm
<discord-> F​alcon. — just a satellite around the moon
<discord-> e​gg. — transfer flights will be weird, orbits will be less weird
<discord-> e​gg. — but anyway, let's first look at the save
<discord-> e​gg. — but not today
<discord-> F​alcon. — alrighty then
<discord-> e​gg. — because now, 💤
<discord-> F​alcon. — Seeya tomorrow, and thanks for putting up with my stupid self
UmbralRaptop has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
UmbralRaptop has joined #principia
<discord-> F​alcon. — https://1drv.ms/u/s!Arq6VxtxpZ4_hMMOLP7KU-SHR1J2OA?e=HfTK9K
<discord-> F​alcon. — there is the save file