raptop changed the topic of #principia to: READ THE FAQ: http://goo.gl/gMZF9H; The current version is Gateaux. We currently target 1.8.1, 1.9.1, and 1.10.1. <scott_manley> anyone that doubts the wisdom of retrograde bop needs to get the hell out | https://xkcd.com/323/ | <egg> calculating the influence of lamont on Pluto is a bit silly… | <egg> also 4e16 m * 2^-52 is uncomfortably large
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[Principia] pleroy synchronize pull request #2759: Improved exit condition for the Clenshaw-Curtis quadrature - https://git.io/JTkIv
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Sir Mortimer. — Something something they hope that there will be principia for KSP2
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egg. — hah
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egg. — I don’t see that happening
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[Principia] eggrobin labeled pull request #2760: Adjust tolerances for Linux and macOS - https://git.io/JTI98
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Sir Mortimer. — Would it be doable? KSP2 <-> Some Layer <-> Principia 汉字
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Sir Mortimer. — Since there is KSP1 <-> some very thin veil of c# code <-> 汉字
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egg. — you have multiple solar systems in KSP 2, right?
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Sir Mortimer. — uh. yeah.
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Sir Mortimer. — ok. scrap it then. 😛
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Sir Mortimer. — (or remove the other stars)
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egg. — and so presumably extremely fast warp is required
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Sir Mortimer. — (or just assume they don't interact with each others)
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egg. — (also the focus is on futurist tech which may bring things into speed regimes that displease our numerical method)
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egg. — (also the focus is on futurist tech which may bring things into speed regimes that displease our numerical methods) (edited)
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egg. — (or in regimes where the mod should be Feldgleichungen, not Principia)
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Sir Mortimer. — In that podcast they talk about some epsteiny engines: 1g of thrust until half way, then you turn around and decelerate with 1g
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Sumguy. — you mean Principia won't work with torch drives?
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egg. — @Sir Mortimer yeah here you definitely want a mod called Feldgleichungen rather than one called Principia
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egg. — have fun
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Sir Mortimer. — hey, *I* don't *want* anything for KSP2. The game won't even run on my hardware, for various reasons
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Sir Mortimer. — it's this nathan dude who had all these crazy ideas 😛
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egg. — (I am not particularly interested in KSP2 anyway, current space is my think more than fancy hard scifi)
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egg. — (more than 50s & 60s space as well, hence the KC ideas :-p)
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egg. — (speaking of which :-p)
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egg. — (I am not particularly interested in KSP2 anyway, current space is my thing more than fancy hard scifi) (edited)
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Sir Mortimer. — yeah, I don't like the direction KSP2 seems to be going to very much either. I like to launch fridge-sized probes in our solar system, and I don't care for near future tech. at all.
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egg. — I mean, makes sense to make them go in different directions, so that they don’t cannibalize each other
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Sir Mortimer. — Good news is: there are some very recent commits on the Kerbalism repo. I got back to it again. And KC pretty much needs the new Kerbalism version, so it's a step.
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Sumguy. — I like space colonization, but not interstellar stuff.
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egg. — @Sir Mortimer whee! \o/
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Sumguy. — (what is KC?)
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Sir Mortimer. — Kerbal Space Program contracts, but done right 😛
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Sumguy. — nice.
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Sir Mortimer. — Github seems to be down :/
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Sir Mortimer. — > moar boosters just won't cut it
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Sumguy. — sounds really nice, but I know it's going to lead to a lot of people asking a lot of questions if it's not somehow made intuitive or if the work isn't done for you with some sort of GUI.
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Sir Mortimer. — you're probably right about that.
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egg. — *gestures at Principia*
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egg. — (but it’s easier than for Principia, you can directly point people at the Capderou book and it will answer all questions)
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<eggleroy> Michel Capderou (2012), Satellites : de Kepler au GPS. https://t.co/vAqW1Adq8Z
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Sumguy. — "Why is my lunar orbiter crashing into the moon?" *Laughs in frozen orbit*
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Sir Mortimer. — There is some rudimentary GUI, as seen in <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF4Wc2g2VlE> but I think something more advanced like some visible hints in map view will be needed. Similar to what @DRVeyl does with RA
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egg. — yeah some fun visualization things can probably be done
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Sir Mortimer. — A window with the open KC contracts, you select one of those windows, then you see the associated visualization overlays in map view... something like that. Like the cone the satellites have to be within, and a marker on all satellites that are candidates for the contract
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egg. — yeah, maybe even some heatmaps of service reliability on the planet or something
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Sir Mortimer. — I can see my framerate tanking already 😛
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DRVeyl. — I never thought that anything UI I made would be used as an example or reference anywhere ;)
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siimav. — See? There's still hope for you. 😉
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experimentalshells. — hey egg, is the canonical pronunciation /prɪnˈsɪpiə/ or /prɪnˈkɪpiə/
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Sumguy. — ME HERCULE
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Sumguy. — wew
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Sumguy. — can't even write Latin as it was intended to be written
<raptop>
sure, Mr Satan
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Caden Seward. — This may be an idiot question, but how do I set a target with Principia? Google, like always, wasn't hepful.
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Caden Seward. — This may be an idiot question, but how do I set a target with Principia? Google, like always, wasn't helpful. (edited)
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Damien. — Upgrade mission control and tracking station and you'll get a button on the principia UI
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Caden Seward. — okay, thank you
<raptop>
KSP: where crewed spaceflight happens before spheres of influence are understood
<raptop>
(Of course, kerbals also somehow invented the turbopump before the wheel...)
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[Principia] pleroy pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±4] https://git.io/JTLiw
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[Principia] pleroy faab401 - Adjust tolerances for Linux and macOS.
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[Principia] pleroy 7fc9fde - Merge pull request #2760 from pleroy/Clang Adjust tolerances for Linux and macOS
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[Principia] pleroy closed pull request #2760: Adjust tolerances for Linux and macOS - https://git.io/JTI98