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<queqiao-> ⟨Falling Guy⟩ why sun orbits earth?
<queqiao-> ⟨Damien⟩ ⟪Falling Guy⟫ why sun orbits earth? ⮪ because in a frame of reference where the earth is fixed, the sun does orbit earth
<queqiao-> ⟨Damien⟩ change the frame of reference to one where the sun is fixed and it'll look more normal
<queqiao-> ⟨Falling Guy⟩ so when i am gonna open map on orbit of earth every thing is going to be ok?
<queqiao-> ⟨Damien⟩ ⟪Falling Guy⟫ so when i am gonna open map on orbit of […] ⮪ you can change your frame of reference depending on how you need to view things. In real life, you see the sun move across the sky around the earth
<queqiao-> ⟨Damien⟩ when playing principia you'll be changing the reference frame a lot
<queqiao-> ⟨Damien⟩ in each frame, something is fixed in place and everything else moves relative to it
<queqiao-> ⟨Damien⟩ the stock KSP reference frame is drawn in a sun fixed reference frame
<queqiao-> ⟨Damien⟩ +for planet orbits to be
<queqiao-> ⟨Damien⟩ that's what you're used to
<queqiao-> ⟨Cirelion⟩ ⟪Falling Guy⟫ why sun orbits earth? ⮪ It kinda looks like a half-finished mandela
<queqiao-> ⟨Falling Guy⟩ thank you so much, i was thinking that the game was broken
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<queqiao-> ⟨Jexa Jexins⟩ ⟪Falling Guy⟫ thank you so much, i was thinking that […] ⮪ it is just in a good way xD
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<queqiao-> ⟨piodd⟩ where can i find math in principia ? some article or something how they calculate the orbit etc ?
<queqiao-> ⟨rnlahaye⟩ Are yo up looking for https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/tree/master/documentation?
<queqiao-> ⟨piodd⟩ not but it can be good too (:
<queqiao-> ⟨piodd⟩ still not this but thx .
<queqiao-> actually i suck at differential equations ): ( i am more district ) XD
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<queqiao-> ⟨Baltic Pagan⟩ Stupid question , what dose Principia change in game?
<queqiao-> ⟨test_account⟩ n-body gravity, flight planning interface, rotation physics, realistic moon orbit
<queqiao-> ⟨Baltic Pagan⟩ N body gravity?
<queqiao-> ⟨Baltic Pagan⟩ And how dose it make moon orbit realistic?
<queqiao-> ⟨ماركو⟩ Its no longer stuck at 28.5 degrees
<queqiao-> ⟨Baltic Pagan⟩ Ah I see
<queqiao-> ⟨ماركو⟩ That mean the cape is no longer coplanar to it
<queqiao-> ⟨test_account⟩ i could add to that "no SOI" (which is a consequence of n-body gravity) and "no stupid errors when changing SOI"
<queqiao-> ⟨ماركو⟩ Yeah,also no stupid errors when time warping
<queqiao-> ⟨Baltic Pagan⟩ And is it intensive to computer? (the mod)
<queqiao-> ⟨ماركو⟩ Only at max timewarps for me
<queqiao-> ⟨ماركو⟩ I usually take care to keep very few sats in orbit tho
<queqiao-> ⟨test_account⟩ there will be a slowdown during the late game
<queqiao-> ⟨ماركو⟩ And keep debris at 0
<queqiao-> ⟨ماركو⟩ Ryzen 1600
<queqiao-> ⟨ماركو⟩ Tbh,once you learn it,it unironically makes plotting a trajectory easier
<queqiao-> ⟨ماركو⟩ Plotting an interplanetary transfer is much better because of the superior principia manouver planner and UI
<queqiao-> ⟨test_account⟩ hmm, I forgot one more thing: axial tilt for all celestial bodies and not just Earth
<queqiao-> ⟨ماركو⟩ If you pc can handle it,its a plain superior experience
<queqiao-> ⟨ماركو⟩ Frame of refences are also >>>>>>>
<queqiao-> ⟨ماركو⟩ Baltic Pagan unironically try it
<queqiao-> ⟨ماركو⟩ If your pc can handle it you are better off learning it ASAP
<queqiao-> ⟨ماركو⟩ I consider principia a mod that is actually kind of easy to get in once you learn the UI,but mastering it...well,that takes an actual degree
<queqiao-> ⟨Baltic Pagan⟩ OK il try looking if it sets my computer on fire or not
<queqiao-> ⟨test_account⟩ it won't, no effect is noticeable at all until there are some ships in orbit