03:47 <_whitenotifier-ee4> [Principia] c6ForH66 opened issue #3811: Changing Integrator Causes Phobos to Escape from the Solar System - https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/issues/3811

08:27 <queqiao-> ⟨robbibi_⟩ rip phobos

09:12 <_whitenotifier-ee4> [Principia] pleroy commented on issue #3811: Changing Integrator Causes Phobos to Escape from the Solar System - https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/issues/3811#issuecomment-1833369558

10:03 <queqiao-> ⟨mullerraumdeuter⟩ whenever i launch a rocket with principa installed it immediately shakes itsself apart just after launch, does anyone know how to fix this?

15:42 <paculino> Do you have any other mods which affect physics?

16:08 <queqiao-> ⟨zombiezilla⟩ If you look in the top right at the clock, is it staying green or flashing yellow/red?

16:10 <queqiao-> ⟨siimav⟩ Since when would that affect the stability of physics?

16:55 <queqiao-> ⟨zombiezilla⟩ if its skipping physics steps, wouldn't that make it more unstable?

16:59 <queqiao-> ⟨mullerraumdeuter⟩ the only mods that might affect physics that i have installed are joint reinforcement and distant object enhancement

17:31 <queqiao-> ⟨siimav⟩ All the clock color says is that physics calculations take more than the intended 20ms.

17:41 <queqiao-> ⟨Kirk (He/Him)⟩ KSP will never skip physics steps of you aren't in timewarp

17:41 <queqiao-> ⟨Kirk (He/Him)⟩ * physicswarp

20:52 <queqiao-> ⟨robbibi_⟩ (20ms is one game tick iirc)

20:52 <queqiao-> ⟨robbibi_⟩ * physics

22:22 <queqiao-> ⟨delta4162⟩ Just how bad is adding principia to an existing save? I hear it causes issues but I might be willing to make some sacrifices

22:47 <queqiao-> ⟨qazerowl⟩ I would plan on losing any ongoing missions. After that, best case scenario is that principia will reset all of the planets to their positions in 1951. Worst case scenario, it starts applying N-body physics to them with their positions as they exist in your save, and incorrect inclinations/orbits could result in a collision which softlocks your save.

22:52 <queqiao-> ⟨delta4162⟩ Good to know, thanks

22:57 <queqiao-> ⟨sichelgaita⟩ That's not how it works. The vessels in low orbit will be fine. The vessels on interplanetary trajectories may find that they are moving toward a place where the planet-used-to-be-but-is-not-anymore. Nothing gets reset to 1951.

23:18 <queqiao-> ⟨delta4162⟩ I see, even better

23:18 <queqiao-> ⟨delta4162⟩ Thanks

23:57 <queqiao-> ⟨qazerowl⟩ So it dies just start applying N-body physics to the planets wherever they happen to be when the game loads?