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<queqiao-> ⟨sorgan71⟩ Thats a cancerous eye
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<queqiao-> ⟨intlon⟩ anyone got some tips for installing principia manually on 1.8.1?
<queqiao-> ⟨intlon⟩ ive been trying yet it doesn't work
<queqiao-> ⟨intlon⟩ yeah, im using CKAN to update surrounding mods and manually installing principia
<queqiao-> ⟨intlon⟩ but
<queqiao-> ⟨intlon⟩ so i shouldnt install it like you intall other mods and just throw the folder in there?
<queqiao-> ⟨intlon⟩ because that doesnt work
<queqiao-> ⟨egg⟩ What folder, where, how does it not work? We don’t have a crystal ball to figure out what is going on on your computer.
<queqiao-> ⟨intlon⟩ what i tried was i put the contents of the gamedata folder in the download file for principia into my ksp gamedata directory
<queqiao-> ⟨intlon⟩ im going to try to use a new save world even though my old one didn't have any ongoing flights
<queqiao-> ⟨egg⟩ You did not answer what you meant by _not working_.
<queqiao-> ⟨intlon⟩ when i loaded up my save, the game crashed
<queqiao-> ⟨egg⟩ This is not necessary.
<queqiao-> ⟨egg⟩ Alright, then you should read the FAQ instructions for a crash, not try random other things.
<queqiao-> ⟨intlon⟩ thx will try
<queqiao-> ⟨intlon⟩ you mean the one underneath the getting help section?
<queqiao-> ⟨egg⟩ Just look at the FATAL file, if it crashes on install it is probably something obvious
<queqiao-> ⟨intlon⟩ yeah seems like Principia doesnt support a trappist mod i have set up
<queqiao-> ⟨intlon⟩ should i file report anyway?
<queqiao-> ⟨intlon⟩ and since my ksp isnt isnt in a steam installation (or well its a copy of a steam directory of ksp) i dont have the crash files
<queqiao-> ⟨intlon⟩ yeah seems like Principia doesnt support a trappist mod i have
<_whitenotifier-ee4> [Principia] Intlon opened issue #3813: Game crashes when loading up a save - https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/issues/3813
<queqiao-> ⟨intlon⟩ yeah seems like Principia doesnt support a trappist mod i have, i just dont know what the mod is called
<_whitenotifier-ee4> [Principia] pleroy opened pull request #3814: The C++ side of the interfacing code that computes collisions - https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/pull/3814
<queqiao-> ⟨intlon⟩ im guessing that its REX
<queqiao-> ⟨intlon⟩ ok yeah got it to work without REX but now apparently kerbalöism is freaking otu
<_whitenotifier-ee4> [Principia] Intlon closed issue #3813: Game crashes when loading up a save - https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/issues/3813
<_whitenotifier-ee4> [Principia] Intlon commented on issue #3813: Game crashes when loading up a save - https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/issues/3813#issuecomment-1837513826
<_whitenotifier-ee4> [Principia] pleroy closed pull request #3814: The C++ side of the interfacing code that computes collisions - https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/pull/3814
<queqiao-> ⟨strelka⟩ not exactly sure what's going on here, but its neat
<queqiao-> ⟨strelka⟩ is there a name for this sort of orbit ?
<queqiao-> ⟨makoivis⟩ someone asked about the ballistic capture trajectory:
<queqiao-> ⟨makoivis⟩ didn't get quite as stable a capture after the burn but still got a temp orbit
<queqiao-> ⟨makoivis⟩ reminds me of the artemis 1 orbit and that was distant retrograde, but I definitely do now know
<queqiao-> ⟨strelka⟩ me !
<queqiao-> ⟨makoivis⟩ I don't usually get a good capture burn without a few correcting burns and burning at GSE Ap seems to work best
<queqiao-> ⟨strelka⟩ it looks to me like some sort of L1 butterfly halo orbit? it's funky
<queqiao-> ⟨makoivis⟩ -burn
<queqiao-> ⟨makoivis⟩ I got a butterfly after the the burn
<queqiao-> ⟨makoivis⟩ often I get lissajous
<queqiao-> ⟨makoivis⟩ anyway this has been my favorite thing lately 🙂
<queqiao-> ⟨makoivis⟩ it would be awesome to get proper backwards integration 😛
<queqiao-> ⟨makoivis⟩ would probably be a pain to implement