egg changed the topic of #principia to: Logs: https://esper.irclog.whitequark.org/principia | <scott_manley> anyone that doubts the wisdom of retrograde bop needs to get the hell out | https://xkcd.com/323/ | <egg> calculating the influence of lamont on Pluto is a bit silly…
<queqiao-> ⟨raptor.m⟩ does anyone know if there is some sort of way to bypass not being able to set orbit cheat with principia? need to test a lander without actually flying all the way to mars
<queqiao-> ⟨Al₂Me₆⟩ ^
<queqiao-> ⟨raptor.m⟩ already found it, but thank you🫡
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<queqiao-> ⟨quattrorumbass⟩ Regarding that craft tidbit, does it only disable Principia for the craft or for the entire system too?
<queqiao-> ⟨butcher6994⟩ Just for that craft.
<queqiao-> ⟨butcher6994⟩ * loaded craft (I think).
<queqiao-> ⟨butcher6994⟩ Pretty sure it doesn't affect the celestials as that would cause a lot of issues.
<queqiao-> ⟨butcher6994⟩ Good to know that dementia has not entirely claimed me.
<queqiao-> ⟨Rad - LR-87 fanatic⟩ Was it always this way? In my old save several of my craft ended up in really weird orbits
<queqiao-> ⟨Rad - LR-87 fanatic⟩ +when I wasn’t looking
<queqiao-> ⟨Rad - LR-87 fanatic⟩ I’m talking like 15km by 400km or something like that
<queqiao-> ⟨egg⟩ craft in orbit around what?
<queqiao-> ⟨Rad - LR-87 fanatic⟩ Earth
<queqiao-> ⟨egg⟩ Odd.
<queqiao-> ⟨Rad - LR-87 fanatic⟩ I also completely lost a station at one point. Between launching it and checking on it later it had completely vanished - although I’m blaming this one on the Kraken
<queqiao-> ⟨Rad - LR-87 fanatic⟩ The Principia version used is shown here. Not exactly up to date
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<queqiao-> ⟨x3rcesblue⟩ your tolerance might have been high
<queqiao-> ⟨Rad - LR-87 fanatic⟩ It’s entirely possible that I changed the tolerance when planning one of my missions and then just never changed it back
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<_whitenotifier-8f55> [Principia] pleroy closed pull request #4017: Latency benchmark for the elementary functions - https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/pull/4017
<_whitenotifier-8f55> [Principia] pleroy opened pull request #4018: Use polynomial evaluator to compute the polynomials for sin and cos - https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/pull/4018
<raptop> cos is just when you commit sins with a dagger
<queqiao-> ⟨hansolo12p⟩ so i installed on an existing install, didn't have an issue with this before but do now. Principia and system rescale not work well together?
<queqiao-> ⟨hansolo12p⟩ Everything seems to be working and orbits seem stable
<queqiao-> ⟨Kirk (He/Him)⟩ Principia disagrees
<queqiao-> ⟨Kirk (He/Him)⟩ I assume the system you are rescaling is the stock system
<queqiao-> ⟨hansolo12p⟩ Yeah
<queqiao-> ⟨Kirk (He/Him)⟩ In which case the rescale mod probably doesn’t include the retrobop fix, resulting in Laythe getting flung into Jool
<queqiao-> ⟨Kirk (He/Him)⟩ Well, flung into Tylo at least
<queqiao-> ⟨hansolo12p⟩ I found jool very far away and with no moons
<queqiao-> ⟨hansolo12p⟩ Is the retrobop fix a separate mod?
<queqiao-> ⟨Kirk (He/Him)⟩ Sounds about right
<queqiao-> ⟨Kirk (He/Him)⟩ If someone made one for whatever rescale you’re using
<queqiao-> ⟨hansolo12p⟩ ah ok
<queqiao-> ⟨hansolo12p⟩ I can do without principia but after one single TMI without principia I have realized I cannot go back
<queqiao-> ⟨hansolo12p⟩ Is there anywehre specific I should look for the fix mod?
<queqiao-> ⟨test_account9540⟩ Retrobop is easy to do yourself
<queqiao-> ⟨test_account9540⟩ You just need to rescale the numbers for your system (10x if your system is 10x, etc)
<queqiao-> ⟨test_account9540⟩ Well, rescale the semi major axes, but not thr inclinations 🙂
<queqiao-> ⟨test_account9540⟩ * the
<queqiao-> ⟨sichelgaita⟩ It is quite unusual to see the apocalypse message for *Jool*. The solar system has to be spectacularly wedged. I don't think it's just a matter of applying the retrobop fix. (Reading the forum thread on Celestial Rescale gives me the willies.)
<queqiao-> ⟨egg⟩ 🌑 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidinnu
<_whitenotifier-8f55> [Principia] pleroy closed pull request #4018: Use polynomial evaluators to compute the polynomials for sin and cos - https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/pull/4018
<queqiao-> ⟨syriantacobell⟩ i got that same message in stock too
<_whitenotifier-8f55> [Principia] pleroy opened pull request #4019: Support for sin arguments near zero and simplification of the cos - https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/pull/4019
<queqiao-> ⟨syriantacobell⟩ nah wait its for laythe
<queqiao-> ⟨syriantacobell⟩ how do i install that?
<queqiao-> ⟨test_account9540⟩ put the cfg file anywhere in gamedata folder
<queqiao-> ⟨Al₂Me₆⟩ Please observe #rules #1.
<queqiao-> ⟨Al₂Me₆⟩ * #1 and #5.
<queqiao-> ⟨syriantacobell⟩ how would i do that? the link will not let me install a CFG file but it gives me text instead.
<queqiao-> ⟨test_account9540⟩ Create a cfg file yourself, I suppose
<queqiao-> ⟨syriantacobell⟩ can you do that just by right clicking in file explorer?
<queqiao-> ⟨test_account9540⟩ You can create a .txt file (notepad) and rename it to .cfg
<raptop> It should be possible to save the file as a cfg?
<raptop> I suppose there's always something like "touch retrobop.cfg"
<queqiao-> ⟨syriantacobell⟩ when i click the link it opens a website, not a file
<raptop> It, er, has the file contents. So you can do a save-as
<queqiao-> ⟨nazfib⟩ In Firefox, I can right-click anywhere on the page, then "Save Page As...". I assume Chrome has something similar.
<queqiao-> ⟨nazfib⟩ * Chrome/Edge/whatever browser you use
<raptop> oh, yeah, right-click. I was thinking more of eg: hitting control+s or save-as from the file menu >.>;;
<queqiao-> ⟨syriantacobell⟩ uh oh vall is gone, guess the retrobop fix in gamedata was wrong
<queqiao-> ⟨syriantacobell⟩ im supposed to put it kopernicus configs arent i?
<queqiao-> ⟨nazfib⟩ You need to place that config file anywhere in your GameData folder, it doesn't matter where. Then you need to create a new save.
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