egg changed the topic of #principia to: Logs: https://esper.irclog.whitequark.org/principia | <scott_manley> anyone that doubts the wisdom of retrograde bop needs to get the hell out | https://xkcd.com/323/ | <egg> calculating the influence of lamont on Pluto is a bit silly…
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<queqiao-> ⟨goblijn22⟩ Gonna try going interplanetary
<queqiao-> ⟨goblijn22⟩ i love new text its the ideal fuel
<queqiao-> ⟨egg⟩ Amusing, but unrelated to Principia.
<queqiao-> ⟨goblijn22⟩ UHHH
<queqiao-> ⟨goblijn22⟩ i designing principia stuff
<queqiao-> ⟨goblijn22⟩ i dont even know what kind of bug this is
<queqiao-> ⟨egg⟩ Yes, but whatever it is you are observing has nothing to do with Principia. Please move that budding bug report to a more appropriate channel.
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<queqiao-> ⟨goblijn22⟩ alot of mid course manuvers
<queqiao-> ⟨goblijn22⟩ arrival
<queqiao-> ⟨goblijn22⟩ orbiter got flung out of martian orbit after like 4 orbits because i didnt capture completely circular
<queqiao-> ⟨goblijn22⟩ sketti
<queqiao-> ⟨naautilus⟩ i love sending principia moving reference frame path images to my stock ksp player friends
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<queqiao-> ⟨butcher6994⟩ You are welcome to send them this one of mine
<queqiao-> ⟨naautilus⟩ is that a gravity well gradient visualizer
<queqiao-> ⟨naautilus⟩ that makes it so much better/worse
<queqiao-> ⟨butcher6994⟩ Brown is principia's equipotential lines
<queqiao-> ⟨butcher6994⟩ Purple is the orbit path of my probe
<queqiao-> ⟨butcher6994⟩ Pluto-Charon is an interesting system.
<queqiao-> ⟨prdxcl⟩ Speaking of that, I recently saw some spaghectories rendered in a '58 paper on Lunar transfers
<queqiao-> ⟨prdxcl⟩ sorry if this is too unrelated, I just thought it was interesting to see; I wonder how they rendered them in '58
<queqiao-> ⟨kuzinat0r⟩ Hi! Has anyone used Jupiter's moons for free capture? It's rather easy to get an encounter in the stock KSP, but with principia it gets too laggy when I change the reference frame to Jupiter-Ganimede(when my ship just ended burning in LEO)
<queqiao-> ⟨test_account9540⟩ "I wonder how they rendered them in '58'"
<queqiao-> Like this, I suppose
<queqiao-> ⟨prdxcl⟩ True, I just mean like how they calculated the points :P
<queqiao-> ⟨prdxcl⟩ Wonder how big of a machine and what one it took
<queqiao-> ⟨skyphoenix999⟩ The Moons of Jupiter aren't large enough to do an entirely gravity assisted capture
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<raptop> Jool's moons are weirdly high mass. Like, Jool-Tylo is at almost an Earth-Luna mass ratio
<raptop> masses of Io, Europa, Ganymede, and Callisto as fractions of Jupiter: 4.70e-5, 2.53e-5, 7.81e-5, 5.67e5
<raptop> Meanwhile Laythe, Vall, and Tylo as fractions of Jool: 6.94e-3, 7.34e-4, 1.00e-2
<queqiao-> ⟨sichelgaita⟩ This is rather cool. Do you have a reference?
<queqiao-> ⟨razgriz16⟩ Relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/2908/
<raptop> Sedna can be easily attacked, as it has no armor!
<queqiao-> ⟨pineconez⟩ Sedna took a page out of the school of Jackie Fisher ("speed is armor") and applied it to orbital dynamics
<raptop> I'm pretty sure it messed up then, since at perihelion it's doing ~4.6 km/s
<_whitenotifier-e998> [Principia] kwattt commented on issue #4025: Crash when clicking on rebase - https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/issues/4025#issuecomment-2197366082
<queqiao-> ⟨pineconez⟩ well, speed is orbital energy, or something like that
<queqiao-> ⟨pineconez⟩ * orbital energy is armor,
<queqiao-> ⟨mmeridian⟩ It seems like the rcs engine config for the gemini OAMS does not work with principia
<queqiao-> ⟨mmeridian⟩ flight planner, when active rcs is selected, and the engines set to "fore by throttle" on, it assumes the engines provide basically zero thrust, which causes burns to take an infinite time
<queqiao-> ⟨mmeridian⟩ i searched this issue and found it came up in 2022 with no apparent resolve. i didn't sim this launch beforehand, just switched the thruster 💔
<queqiao-> ⟨Kirk (He/Him)⟩ Yeah, Principia doesn't consider RCS to be engines
<queqiao-> ⟨Kirk (He/Him)⟩ Which is why the engine version of the OAMS exists
<queqiao-> ⟨mmeridian⟩ it works fine with standard rcs pods or thrusters. which is why i wouldn't have thought this one would be different
<queqiao-> ⟨mmeridian⟩ it's okay i am now docked with the target vehicle through the power of instant impulse planning, F5+F9, and strength of will
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<_whitenotifier-e998> [Principia] pleroy commented on issue #4025: Crash when clicking on rebase - https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/issues/4025#issuecomment-2197670537
<_whitenotifier-e998> [Principia] kwattt commented on issue #4025: Crash when clicking on rebase - https://github.com/mockingbirdnest/Principia/issues/4025#issuecomment-2197679331
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